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Stan

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Since: Dec 10, 2007
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 7:15 pm
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Hi All,
Can somebody please give me a simple explanation as to how the press
definitions work?
I've read several newbie guides but I'm still confused.
For example:- what is the difference between W_P_ and
WGP_?
Help me please
Stan

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Jim Burgess

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 7:15 pm
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"Stan" <s_m.TakeThisOut@joncom.co.uk> writes:

>Hi All,
>Can somebody please give me a simple explanation as to how the press
>definitions work?
>I've read several newbie guides but I'm still confused.
>For example:- what is the difference between W_P_ and
>WGP_?
>Help me please
>Stan

Hi Stan, I'll let a press maven respond in greater detail. I think the
only difference between W_P_ and WGP_ is the ability to send (in WGP_)
anonymous broadcast messages that are not directly attributable to you.

One thing that always is a difficulty in guides is that there is a
tremendous amount of POSSIBLY relevant information, but an extremely small
amount of USUALLLY relevant information. You want people to know what
they're getting into, but not get bogged down in administrivia. You are
presently bogged down worrying about things you do NOT need to get
started. There are three fundamental press setting, which each have a
number of off-shoots, but if you're trying to start GMing, just copy
settings from an existing game or use standard settings until you know
what you're trying to do.

Those are:
Anonymous (sometimes called Gunboat, but not accurately given the history
of the term) where you can send messages to everyone, but no one knows
your is Stan so they can't make bad Paul Simon jokes about making a new
plan.

No Press where you just don't send press to anyone, you just move the
pieces.

And "Regular" or "Standard" where you send messages to people and they
know who you are, WGP_ is a standard setting for this.

Jim-Bob

PS Since I did this from memory, what picky detail did I get wrong? And
does it matter for me being able to play or GM in a standard way? I'll
bet not.

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Eric Hunter

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 11:11 pm
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Jim Burgess wrote:
> "Stan" <s_m RemoveThis @joncom.co.uk> writes:
>
>> Can somebody please give me a simple explanation as to how the press
>> definitions work?
>> I've read several newbie guides but I'm still confused.
>> For example:- what is the difference between W_P_ and
>> WGP_?
>
> Hi Stan, I'll let a press maven respond in greater detail. I think the
> only difference between W_P_ and WGP_ is the ability to send (in WGP_)
> anonymous broadcast messages that are not directly attributable to you.

Basically, but not quite. There are four places in the Press
setting WGPF. W = White, which means press from each Power is
identified by the Power which sent it, so if Russia writes to
Turkey, it will be labeled "Press from Russia to Turkey", and
a Russian Broadcast will be labeled "Broadcast from Russia".
The "G" in the list stands for "Grey" press (and yes it is
spelled with an 'e'). If Russia sends Grey Press to Turkey with
the command "Press to T Grey", Turkey will receive the letter,
but no sender will be identified. The "P" in the list means
that Partial-Press is enabled, so "Press to T" will work. If
there is a "-" in the third spot then partial-press is not
allowed. So, "WG--" means Broadcast press only, white or grey,
white by default, while "W-P-" means White press only, no grey,
partial and broadcasts allowed. The last spot "F" stands for
Fake press. It is seldom used, since the implementation on
the Judges is not especially useful, but if "F" is set, you
can send messages to one group but have them labeled as going
to someone else. So as England, you can send "Press to F fake
press to FG", and France will get a message from England that
looks like it was sent of France and Germany.

So the difference between W-P- and WGP- is that in the second
case you can send broadcasts or messages to one Power or a
group of Powers without the message telling the recipients
who sent it. In the first case any message you send will
be labeled as having been sent by your Power.

Eric.
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