Nancy Drew - Creature of Kapu Cave

noman typed on Wed 16 Jan 2008 12:46 PM:
> It's not about DOS and Windows games.
> It creates a virtual CD/DVD drive.

Yah, but I was trying to explain the relevance to MaryJ.


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"Matt v3.2" <ask.for.my.address.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Mary typed on Mon 14 Jan 2008 5:19 PM:
> >> And by the way, it is iMgmount (m, not n) As in "image mount"
> >
> > Yes, I knew that. Typing mistake :p I wish I was better at figuring
> > out about virtual drives though. Oh well, we can't be good at
> > everything, can we?
>
> No, but then if we were, would we really want to put our teachers out
> of work?

Not only teachers, everybody who we often deal with - significant others and
others

> Well, we've only been *talking* about virtual drives (etc). I find it
> easier to figure things out by giving them a go - "you cannot learn to
> swim without getting in the water" - as my teacher used to say.
>
> Besides, it is far less complicated than you think. The first step of
> saving a CD image is as easy as using a Windows "Save As" dialog. (In
> fact, it is exactly that)

Hmmm-. I'll take your word for that Matt

> At any rate, when you want to give it a go, I'll step you through it.
> (I'll promise not to throw you in the deep end ;D)

I'll take you up on that if or when I am ever read to jump into the shallow
end.

Mary
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"mick" <coughcough. RemoveThis @privacy.com> wrote in message
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> Mary wrote:
> > "noman" <no_m_an RemoveThis @zzzyahoo.yycom> wrote in message
> > news:i4hqo3piktjmiuqhd4nruvj917db0r2uar@4ax.com...
> >> On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 00:30:40 -0500, "Mary" <non RemoveThis @invalid.ddd> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Internally in DOSBox, I then mount the d drive to the virutal one
> >> created by DaemonTools.
> >
> > If you can play UAKM and Pandora Directive in Dosbox 0.70, why do you
> > need Daemon Tools? Only so you don't have to change the CD"s?
>
> Yes, you have CD image files on your hard drive which, when loaded into
> Daemon Tools, appear to the system as if they were actually CD`s in your
> drive.

Thats after you have installed the whole game - right? But when you install
a game from a CD, you don't install all the files for the game to run do ou?
I thought that why you need the CD in the drive?

>As Damon Tools can have four CD`s mounted at any one time then you
> can see the advantage. They will also work faster.

I have an idea how this works, but not completely. I don't mind looking
stupid as long as I learn and understand things

Mary
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On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 17:38:17 -0500, Mary wrote:

> "mick" <coughcough. RemoveThis @privacy.com> wrote in message
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>> Mary wrote:
>> > "noman" <no_m_an RemoveThis @zzzyahoo.yycom> wrote in message
>> > news:i4hqo3piktjmiuqhd4nruvj917db0r2uar@4ax.com...
>> >> On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 00:30:40 -0500, "Mary" <non RemoveThis @invalid.ddd> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Internally in DOSBox, I then mount the d drive to the virutal one
>> >> created by DaemonTools.
>> >
>> > If you can play UAKM and Pandora Directive in Dosbox 0.70, why do you
>> > need Daemon Tools? Only so you don't have to change the CD"s?
>>
>> Yes, you have CD image files on your hard drive which, when loaded into
>> Daemon Tools, appear to the system as if they were actually CD`s in your
>> drive.
>
> Thats after you have installed the whole game - right?

Better to do it before, and then mount the game CD images and install the
game from the image of CD1.


>But when you install a game from a CD, you don't install all the files
>for the game to run do you? I thought that why you need the CD in the
>drive?

If you have the image of the CD mounted, you don't need the CD in the
drive. All the information the game needs is on that image.


>>As Damon Tools can have four CD`s mounted at any one time then you
>> can see the advantage. They will also work faster.
>
> I have an idea how this works, but not completely. I don't mind looking
> stupid as long as I learn and understand things


The easiest way to get it to make sense is to work with it. The image of
the game CD replaces the game CD. Mounting the image is like putting the
CD in the drive.
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> On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 17:38:17 -0500, Mary wrote:
>
> > "mick" <coughcough. RemoveThis @privacy.com> wrote in message
> > news:E9mjj.61946$h35.32578@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net...
> >> Mary wrote:
> >> > "noman" <no_m_an RemoveThis @zzzyahoo.yycom> wrote in message
> >> > news:i4hqo3piktjmiuqhd4nruvj917db0r2uar@4ax.com...
> >> >> On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 00:30:40 -0500, "Mary" <non RemoveThis @invalid.ddd> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Internally in DOSBox, I then mount the d drive to the virutal one
> >> >> created by DaemonTools.
> >> >
> >> > If you can play UAKM and Pandora Directive in Dosbox 0.70, why do you
> >> > need Daemon Tools? Only so you don't have to change the CD"s?
> >>
> >> Yes, you have CD image files on your hard drive which, when loaded into
> >> Daemon Tools, appear to the system as if they were actually CD`s in
your
> >> drive.
> >
> > Thats after you have installed the whole game - right?
>
> Better to do it before, and then mount the game CD images and install the
> game from the image of CD1.
>
>
> >But when you install a game from a CD, you don't install all the files
> >for the game to run do you? I thought that why you need the CD in the
> >drive?
>
> If you have the image of the CD mounted, you don't need the CD in the
> drive. All the information the game needs is on that image.
>
>
> >>As Damon Tools can have four CD`s mounted at any one time then you
> >> can see the advantage. They will also work faster.
> >
> > I have an idea how this works, but not completely. I don't mind looking
> > stupid as long as I learn and understand things
>
>
> The easiest way to get it to make sense is to work with it. The image of
> the game CD replaces the game CD. Mounting the image is like putting the
> CD in the drive.

I'll think about if and when the time comes. Thanks Jenny.

Mary
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Mary wrote:
> "mick" <coughcough. RemoveThis @privacy.com> wrote in message
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>> Mary wrote:
>>> "noman" <no_m_an RemoveThis @zzzyahoo.yycom> wrote in message
>>> news:i4hqo3piktjmiuqhd4nruvj917db0r2uar@4ax.com...
>>>> On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 00:30:40 -0500, "Mary" <non RemoveThis @invalid.ddd> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Internally in DOSBox, I then mount the d drive to the virutal one
>>>> created by DaemonTools.
>>>
>>> If you can play UAKM and Pandora Directive in Dosbox 0.70, why do
>>> you need Daemon Tools? Only so you don't have to change the CD"s?
>>
>> Yes, you have CD image files on your hard drive which, when loaded
>> into Daemon Tools, appear to the system as if they were actually
>> CD`s in your drive.
>
> Thats after you have installed the whole game - right?

Doesn`t usually make any difference apart from in the following
circumstance -

Example:

Let`s say your *real* CDdrive is E:
And your virtual drive is set to F:

If install the game from drive E: (real drive)
Then mount the .iso image file as virtual drive F: in DamonTools

with some games, when you try to run the game it will look for the CD in
drive E: (the drive it was installed from) instead of F:
so it`s usually best to install the game from the image.

What you will find is when you install a disk image into DTools it will
autorun the setup program for the game in just the same way as it would if
you put a real CD or DVD into your real drive. They work exactly the same
way.

> But when you
> install a game from a CD, you don't install all the files for the
> game to run do ou? I thought that why you need the CD in the drive?

Depends. Some games give you the option of doing a full or partial install.
If you do a partial install then you have the advantage that virtual drives
are faster than real drives so any delay there is while the game loads
information from the CD/DVD will be much reduced.

>> As Damon Tools can have four CD`s mounted at any one time then you
>> can see the advantage. They will also work faster.
>
> I have an idea how this works, but not completely. I don't mind
> looking stupid as long as I learn and understand things

Having gone through three drives now I almost always use DT to save on wear
and tear. As for looking stupid, we all have had to learn at sometime:-)
It`s one of those things that sounds far more complicated than it actually
is.

mick
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