Nancy Drew - Creature of Kapu Cave

Tecknomage wrote:
> I was irked when I installed Kapu and found out it required me to have
> the CD mounted.
>
> Why? Two reasons:
>
> 1) I played Crystal Skull first. It _does_not_ require the CD
> mounted.
>
> 2) I have 2 CD drives. The GAME.INI as a reference (CDDrive=I
> which is only one. This forces me to use only that CD drive.
>
> I looked at the GAME.INI in Crystal Skull and found the reference
> CDDrive=J: (J: is the game hard drive) and I noted that the NANCY.CID
> file was in the game folder.
>
> Editing the GAME.INI (CDDrive=J for Kapu, and coping the NANCY.CID
> from the Kapu CD to the game folder, did provide a solution.
>
>
> Is there a way to make Kapu play _without_ having the CD mounted?

You could try a NoCD crack.

mick
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rpgs rock dvds wrote:
> On 9 Jan, 12:00, Tecknomage <teckn....TakeThisOut@NOSPAM.com> wrote:
>> I was irked when I installed Kapu and found out it required me to
>> have the CD mounted.
>>
>> Why? Two reasons:
>>
>> 1) I played Crystal Skull first. It _does_not_ require the CD
>> mounted.
>>
>> 2) I have 2 CD drives. The GAME.INI as a reference (CDDrive=I
>> which is only one. This forces me to use only that CD drive.
>>
>> I looked at the GAME.INI in Crystal Skull and found the reference
>> CDDrive=J: (J: is the game hard drive) and I noted that the NANCY.CID
>> file was in the game folder.
>>
>> Editing the GAME.INI (CDDrive=J for Kapu, and coping the NANCY.CID
>> from the Kapu CD to the game folder, did provide a solution.
>>
>> Is there a way to make Kapu play _without_ having the CD mounted?
>>
>> --
>> ==== Tecknomage ====
>> Imponderable: If a man is alone in the woods, and he
>> says something, and no woman is around to disagree, is
>> he still wrong? - Pickles 1997
>
> I've heard that a couple of software tools can create something called
> a virtual drive on your computer. "Daemon Tools" and "Alcohol 120%"
> are 2 examples. By creating virtual drives, you can fool the program
> (in your case Nancy Drew; Kapu) in to thinking that a virtual drive on
> your hard drive is the actual CD (or DVD) physical drive. This will
> allow you to play the game without having the physical disc in the
> physical drive - the game will just get the data (or whatever it wants
> to do) from your hard drive.
>
> I believe that both products have trial versions for free download -
> why not check them out, and if it works for you (or not), post back
> your observations?

Daemon Tools is free - unless this has changed with newer versions.
I`m using version 3.47 and have been using this program for years. It allows
you to create a maximum of 4 virtual drives at any one time.

Alchohol120 is commercial and allows more drives.

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mick typed on Thu 10 Jan 2008 11:37 AM:
> Daemon Tools is free - unless this has changed with newer versions.
> I`m using version 3.47 and have been using this program for years. It
> allows you to create a maximum of 4 virtual drives at any one time.

Version 4.11.2 is great, too. Still free with the same functionality as
v3.47 (and it has smooth icons - except for the tray icon <*grr*> )

I also recommended getting Daemon Script from the v4-series Addons page
- it lets you create a one-click shortcut that automatically mounts the
CD image, runs the game app, then unmounts the image when you exit the
game. Be sure to add a few seconds of delay after mounting the image(s)
for it to work.

I setup all my games to run with one-click, no-CD shortcuts. DOSbox can
do the same thing, for example - I have the 4-CD "Under A Killing Moon"
working with one click and no more CD swapping. Using the 'imgmount'
command, DOSbox automatically mounts the 4 CD images and the game runs
entirely from the hard drive - even better than the old MS-DOS days!

I wish we had a DOSbox back in 1992 ... ;D

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> mick typed on Thu 10 Jan 2008 11:37 AM:
> > Daemon Tools is free - unless this has changed with newer versions.
> > I`m using version 3.47 and have been using this program for years. It
> > allows you to create a maximum of 4 virtual drives at any one time.
>
> Version 4.11.2 is great, too. Still free with the same functionality as
> v3.47 (and it has smooth icons - except for the tray icon <*grr*> )
>
> I also recommended getting Daemon Script from the v4-series Addons page
> - it lets you create a one-click shortcut that automatically mounts the
> CD image, runs the game app, then unmounts the image when you exit the
> game. Be sure to add a few seconds of delay after mounting the image(s)
> for it to work.
>
> I setup all my games to run with one-click, no-CD shortcuts. DOSbox can
> do the same thing, for example - I have the 4-CD "Under A Killing Moon"
> working with one click and no more CD swapping. Using the 'imgmount'
> command, DOSbox automatically mounts the 4 CD images and the game runs
> entirely from the hard drive - even better than the old MS-DOS days!

Matt, how does that work in Dosbox? and what is the "ingmount" command? is
it used in command line within Dosbox?
You would still have to install all 3 CD;s of Under a Killing moon wouldn't
you?

Mary
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Matt v3.2 wrote:
> mick typed on Thu 10 Jan 2008 11:37 AM:
>> Daemon Tools is free - unless this has changed with newer versions.
>> I`m using version 3.47 and have been using this program for years. It
>> allows you to create a maximum of 4 virtual drives at any one time.
>
> Version 4.11.2 is great, too. Still free with the same functionality
> as v3.47 (and it has smooth icons - except for the tray icon
> <*grr*> )
>
Big problem, for me at least, is that the version 4.xx series doesn`t work
with win98:-(

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> > mick typed on Thu 10 Jan 2008 11:37 AM:
> > > Daemon Tools is free - unless this has changed with newer versions.
> > > I`m using version 3.47 and have been using this program for years. It
> > > allows you to create a maximum of 4 virtual drives at any one time.
>
> > Version 4.11.2 is great, too. Still free with the same functionality as
> > v3.47 (and it has smooth icons - except for the tray icon <*grr*> )
>
> > I also recommended getting Daemon Script from the v4-series Addons page
> > - it lets you create a one-click shortcut that automatically mounts the
> > CD image, runs the game app, then unmounts the image when you exit the
> > game. Be sure to add a few seconds of delay after mounting the image(s)
> > for it to work.
>
> > I setup all my games to run with one-click, no-CD shortcuts.DOSboxcan
> > do the same thing, for example - I have the 4-CD "Under A Killing Moon"
> > working with one click and no more CD swapping. Using the 'imgmount'
> > command,DOSboxautomatically mounts the 4 CD images and the game runs
> > entirely from the hard drive - even better than the old MS-DOS days!
>
> Matt, how does that work inDosbox? and what is the "ingmount" command? is
> it used in command line withinDosbox?
> You would still have to install all 3 CD;s of Under a Killing moon wouldn't
> you?
>
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imgmount "mounts" .iso's and .cue/.bin CDROM images. It mounts floppy
images as well. It can also load multiple images that can be switched
between them by using CTRL+F4. Yes, it is an internal DosBox command.
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> > mick typed on Thu 10 Jan 2008 11:37 AM:
> > > Daemon Tools is free - unless this has changed with newer versions.
> > > I`m using version 3.47 and have been using this program for years. It
> > > allows you to create a maximum of 4 virtual drives at any one time.
>
> > Version 4.11.2 is great, too. Still free with the same functionality as
> > v3.47 (and it has smooth icons - except for the tray icon <*grr*> )
>
> > I also recommended getting Daemon Script from the v4-series Addons page
> > - it lets you create a one-click shortcut that automatically mounts the
> > CD image, runs the game app, then unmounts the image when you exit the
> > game. Be sure to add a few seconds of delay after mounting the image(s)
> > for it to work.
>
> > I setup all my games to run with one-click, no-CD shortcuts.DOSboxcan
> > do the same thing, for example - I have the 4-CD "Under A Killing Moon"
> > working with one click and no more CD swapping. Using the 'imgmount'
> > command,DOSboxautomatically mounts the 4 CD images and the game runs
> > entirely from the hard drive - even better than the old MS-DOS days!
>
> Matt, how does that work inDosbox? and what is the "ingmount" command? is
> it used in command line withinDosbox?
> You would still have to install all 3 CD;s of Under a Killing moon
wouldn't
> you?
>
> Mary- Hide quoted text -
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imgmount "mounts" .iso's and .cue/.bin CDROM images. It mounts floppy
images as well. It can also load multiple images that can be switched
between them by using CTRL+F4. Yes, it is an internal DosBox command.

That sounds like double dutch to me. I don't know how all that works. I will
have to study the situation more. Thanks anyway.

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Mary typed on Thu 10 Jan 2008 5:53 PM:
>> I setup all my games to run with one-click, no-CD shortcuts. DOSbox
>> can do the same thing, for example - I have the 4-CD "Under A
>> Killing Moon" working with one click and no more CD swapping. Using
>> the 'imgmount' command, DOSbox automatically mounts the 4 CD images
>> and the game runs entirely from the hard drive - even better than
>> the old MS-DOS days!
>
> Matt, how does that work in Dosbox? and what is the "ingmount"
> command? is it used in command line within Dosbox?

Yes, imgmount is a DOSbox command. You can get the full details in the
DOSbox readme.txt, but I'll outline it below. It does basically the same
thing as Deamon Tools - lets you mount a disc image as a drive letter.

First you need to make a disc image of the 4 CDs. A disc image is just
one file (.ISO) that contains the entire CD. You can use a free program
such as DDump+Frontend:

http://come.to/ddumpfrontend

Save each CD image somewhere in the game folder, for example:

C:\Games\Tex3\CD1\tex3cd1.iso
C:\Games\Tex3\CD2\tex3cd2.iso
C:\Games\Tex3\CD3\tex3cd3.iso
C:\Games\Tex3\CD4\tex3cd4.iso

Then in DOSbox you mount each image as a drive letter, for example:

imgmount H "C:\Games\Tex3\CD1\tex3cd1.ISO" -t iso
imgmount I "C:\Games\Tex3\CD2\tex3cd2.ISO" -t iso
imgmount J "C:\Games\Tex3\CD3\tex3cd3.ISO" -t iso
imgmount K "C:\Games\Tex3\CD4\tex3cd4.ISO" -t iso

So now the game thinks you have the 4 discs inserted in drives H, I, J,
and K. You would also need to mount the C drive as usual:

mount C "C:\"

While still in DOSbox, goto H: (as in, disc 1) and type 'install' to
install the game. Install it to "C:\Games\Tex3" for this example. On
the install screen, you can specify the drive letters for each disc.

(Also, put the DOSbox cycles up to about 20000 with Ctrl-F12 keys, so
the game will think you have a "fast" PC)

By the way, you can save all these commands as a DOSbox profile (.CONF)
and then run it with a single shortcut. A profile is just a text file
of pre-defined commands, to save you having to type them in every time.

So, make a file called 'Tex3.CONF' (make sure it does not end in .TXT)
and save it in the game folder.

For example, my 'C:\Games\Tex3\Tex3.CONF' file looks like this:


[render]
frameskip=1
scaler=none

[dosbox]
memsize=32

[cpu]
cycles=20000
core=dynamic

[sdl]
fullscreen=true

[autoexec]
mount C "C:\" -t dir
imgmount H "C:\Games\Tex3\CD1\tex3cd1.ISO" -t iso
imgmount I "C:\Games\Tex3\CD2\tex3cd2.ISO" -t iso
imgmount J "C:\Games\Tex3\CD3\tex3cd3.ISO" -t iso
imgmount K "C:\Games\Tex3\CD4\tex3cd4.ISO" -t iso
C:
cd \Games\Tex3
moon.exe


Then make a standard Windows shortcut that points to the DOSbox path
and config file(s):

"C:\Program Files\DOSBox-0.72\dosbox.exe"
-conf "C:\Program Files\DOSBox-0.72\dosbox.conf"
-conf "C:\Games\Tex3\Tex3.conf" -noconsole

(That should be one line)

Then, with one click of that shortcut, and you can play Tex3 without
having to insert or swap CDs.

Eh, it looks more complicated writing it than actually doing it.

> You would still have to install all 3 CD;s of Under a Killing moon
> wouldn't you?

Yes. The game install only takes up roughly 6 MB of hard drive, but
because you make a copy of all 4 discs as well, the total folder takes
up 2.51 GB (gigabytes!)


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Matt, thanks for taking the time to give me the information about making a
disc image but it seems much too complicated for me. I had enough problems
getting DOS box to work. LOL. But I might try it sometime. Thanks again.

Mary

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> Mary typed on Thu 10 Jan 2008 5:53 PM:
> >> I setup all my games to run with one-click, no-CD shortcuts. DOSbox
> >> can do the same thing, for example - I have the 4-CD "Under A
> >> Killing Moon" working with one click and no more CD swapping. Using
> >> the 'imgmount' command, DOSbox automatically mounts the 4 CD images
> >> and the game runs entirely from the hard drive - even better than
> >> the old MS-DOS days!
> >
> > Matt, how does that work in Dosbox? and what is the "ingmount"
> > command? is it used in command line within Dosbox?
>
> Yes, imgmount is a DOSbox command. You can get the full details in the
> DOSbox readme.txt, but I'll outline it below. It does basically the same
> thing as Deamon Tools - lets you mount a disc image as a drive letter.
>
> First you need to make a disc image of the 4 CDs. A disc image is just
> one file (.ISO) that contains the entire CD. You can use a free program
> such as DDump+Frontend:
>
> http://come.to/ddumpfrontend
>
> Save each CD image somewhere in the game folder, for example:
>
> C:\Games\Tex3\CD1\tex3cd1.iso
> C:\Games\Tex3\CD2\tex3cd2.iso
> C:\Games\Tex3\CD3\tex3cd3.iso
> C:\Games\Tex3\CD4\tex3cd4.iso
>
> Then in DOSbox you mount each image as a drive letter, for example:
>
> imgmount H "C:\Games\Tex3\CD1\tex3cd1.ISO" -t iso
> imgmount I "C:\Games\Tex3\CD2\tex3cd2.ISO" -t iso
> imgmount J "C:\Games\Tex3\CD3\tex3cd3.ISO" -t iso
> imgmount K "C:\Games\Tex3\CD4\tex3cd4.ISO" -t iso
>
> So now the game thinks you have the 4 discs inserted in drives H, I, J,
> and K. You would also need to mount the C drive as usual:
>
> mount C "C:\"
>
> While still in DOSbox, goto H: (as in, disc 1) and type 'install' to
> install the game. Install it to "C:\Games\Tex3" for this example. On
> the install screen, you can specify the drive letters for each disc.
>
> (Also, put the DOSbox cycles up to about 20000 with Ctrl-F12 keys, so
> the game will think you have a "fast" PC)
>
> By the way, you can save all these commands as a DOSbox profile (.CONF)
> and then run it with a single shortcut. A profile is just a text file
> of pre-defined commands, to save you having to type them in every time.
>
> So, make a file called 'Tex3.CONF' (make sure it does not end in .TXT)
> and save it in the game folder.
>
> For example, my 'C:\Games\Tex3\Tex3.CONF' file looks like this:
>
>
> [render]
> frameskip=1
> scaler=none
>
> [dosbox]
> memsize=32
>
> [cpu]
> cycles=20000
> core=dynamic
>
> [sdl]
> fullscreen=true
>
> [autoexec]
> mount C "C:\" -t dir
> imgmount H "C:\Games\Tex3\CD1\tex3cd1.ISO" -t iso
> imgmount I "C:\Games\Tex3\CD2\tex3cd2.ISO" -t iso
> imgmount J "C:\Games\Tex3\CD3\tex3cd3.ISO" -t iso
> imgmount K "C:\Games\Tex3\CD4\tex3cd4.ISO" -t iso
> C:
> cd \Games\Tex3
> moon.exe
>
>
> Then make a standard Windows shortcut that points to the DOSbox path
> and config file(s):
>
> "C:\Program Files\DOSBox-0.72\dosbox.exe"
> -conf "C:\Program Files\DOSBox-0.72\dosbox.conf"
> -conf "C:\Games\Tex3\Tex3.conf" -noconsole
>
> (That should be one line)
>
> Then, with one click of that shortcut, and you can play Tex3 without
> having to insert or swap CDs.
>
> Eh, it looks more complicated writing it than actually doing it.
>
> > You would still have to install all 3 CD;s of Under a Killing moon
> > wouldn't you?
>
> Yes. The game install only takes up roughly 6 MB of hard drive, but
> because you make a copy of all 4 discs as well, the total folder takes
> up 2.51 GB (gigabytes!)
>
>
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On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 01:27:31 -0500, "Mary" <non RemoveThis @invalid.ddd> wrote:

>Matt, thanks for taking the time to give me the information about making a
>disc image but it seems much too complicated for me. I had enough problems
>getting DOS box to work. LOL. But I might try it sometime. Thanks again.

The core DOSBox functionality has gotten much easier to set up. For
example if you download and install DOSBox 0.72 and then run the
application, you'll need just two commands,

mount c c:\ (Assuming c:\ in your PC is the place you install all
games, for me it's c:\games, so I use the command <mount c c:\games>)

mount d d:\ -t cdrom -usecd 0 -ioctrl (assuming that d:\ is your
CD/DVDROM..... if it's g:\ instead, use <mount d g:\ blah blah> )

With these two commands alone you can run 99% of old DOS games without
any further tweaks. The new DOSBox has a 'dynamic' CPU cycles option,
so most games run fine without you having to set CPU cycles by
Ctrl+F12.

Now with this basic configuration, you get to play the games exactly
as the experience was 10-15 years ago, swapping CDs for multi-CD
games. Well there's one big difference; you can easily alt-tab back to
desktop to umm.. check the walkthrough.

Matt's excellent post gave details about how you can get rid of CD
swapping by mounting CD image as virtual drives. I didn't even know
that DOSBox can do that as I always used DaemonTools to have virtual
drives. He also wrote how this can be added to the conf file, so you
don't have to retype the commands every time you start DOSBox.
However, if it's too complicated you can always just run DOSBox and
the two mount commands and the setup would be ready for any DOS game.
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> On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 01:27:31 -0500, "Mary" <non.DeleteThis@invalid.ddd> wrote:
>
> >Matt, thanks for taking the time to give me the information about making
a
> >disc image but it seems much too complicated for me. I had enough
problems
> >getting DOS box to work. LOL. But I might try it sometime. Thanks again.
>
> The core DOSBox functionality has gotten much easier to set up. For
> example if you download and install DOSBox 0.72 and then run the
> application, you'll need just two commands,
>
> mount c c:\ (Assuming c:\ in your PC is the place you install all
> games, for me it's c:\games, so I use the command <mount c c:\games>)
>
> mount d d:\ -t cdrom -usecd 0 -ioctrl (assuming that d:\ is your
> CD/DVDROM..... if it's g:\ instead, use <mount d g:\ blah blah> )
>
> With these two commands alone you can run 99% of old DOS games without
> any further tweaks. The new DOSBox has a 'dynamic' CPU cycles option,
> so most games run fine without you having to set CPU cycles by
> Ctrl+F12.
>
> Now with this basic configuration, you get to play the games exactly
> as the experience was 10-15 years ago, swapping CDs for multi-CD
> games. Well there's one big difference; you can easily alt-tab back to
> desktop to umm.. check the walkthrough.

I know how to run Dosbox and played a few old Dos games in it, and still
playing The 7th Guest using it. I knew I could get back to desktop if I
didn't make the game fill up the screen, but I usually do Alt/Enter so the
game will take up the entire screen, but didn't know that I could do alt/tab
to get back to desktop, so thanks for that tip.

> Matt's excellent post gave details about how you can get rid of CD
> swapping by mounting CD image as virtual drives. I didn't even know
> that DOSBox can do that as I always used DaemonTools to have virtual
> drives. He also wrote how this can be added to the conf file, so you
> don't have to retype the commands every time you start DOSBox.
> However, if it's too complicated you can always just run DOSBox and
> the two mount commands and the setup would be ready for any DOS game.

I will print Matt's instructions, and may need it sometime, but for me it
sounds too complicated. I don't know anything about Daemon Tools or virtual
drives, or why you would need it. I don't need to try it right now anyway. I
know about adding the "mount" commands and the executables in Dosbox to
start a game so you don't have to type them in Dosbox every time when
starting. Its handy. But Daemon Tiools is a different situation, and I don't
want to figure it out unless I was forced to :p

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Mary typed on Sat 12 Jan 2008 10:36 AM:
> I don't know anything about Daemon Tools or virtual drives, or why
> you would need it. I don't need to try it right now anyway. I know
> about adding the "mount" commands and the executables in Dosbox to
> start a game so you don't have to type them in Dosbox every time when
> starting. Its handy. But Daemon Tiools is a different situation, and
> I don't want to figure it out unless I was forced to :p

Just to be clear, Daemon Tools is for Windows games.

But for DOS games, you can use DOSbox and 'imgmount' to accomplish
the same thing.

As for 'why?' - simply to avoid the annoyance of inserting CDs.

Of course that is not really necessary to enjoy a game (well, maybe
some games), but at least you know it is possible for the next time
a game asks you to insert disc 3 for the hundredth time.

(Although lots of games come on DVD these days. I'm not sure if you
can mount DVDs the same - at least I've never tried. Actually, I'm
not aware of any free software that can make a DVD image, either -
I might investigate that sometime)


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> Mary typed on Sat 12 Jan 2008 10:36 AM:
> > I don't know anything about Daemon Tools or virtual drives, or why
> > you would need it. I don't need to try it right now anyway. I know
> > about adding the "mount" commands and the executables in Dosbox to
> > start a game so you don't have to type them in Dosbox every time when
> > starting. Its handy. But Daemon Tiools is a different situation, and
> > I don't want to figure it out unless I was forced to :p
>
> Just to be clear, Daemon Tools is for Windows games.

You are usually online at this time of night here - you being downunder..
Its 12.25 a.m. EST North America though its only 9.30 pm in Western Canada
and US.

I forgot that Daemon Tools is for Windows games. Is it for Win 98 as well as
XP and Vista? I use Win 98 most of the time, but have Win XP on a separate
partition so I can use it too when need be. By the way, are you using Vista
or Win XP? I don't have Vista and probably won't for a while. Its expensive
to buy.

> But for DOS games, you can use DOSbox and 'imgmount' to accomplish
> the same thing.

But ingmount is for Windows and Dosbox is for older Dos games, right? Is
ingmount part of Daemon Tools?

> As for 'why?' - simply to avoid the annoyance of inserting CDs.
>
> Of course that is not really necessary to enjoy a game (well, maybe
> some games), but at least you know it is possible for the next time
> a game asks you to insert disc 3 for the hundredth time.

Some older games have a lot of CD's. Games that play on DVD Roms don't
usually have many DVD's.

> (Although lots of games come on DVD these days. I'm not sure if you
> can mount DVDs the same - at least I've never tried. Actually, I'm
> not aware of any free software that can make a DVD image, either -
> I might investigate that sometime)

I wouldn't know but probably some people here do.

Mary
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