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"John Doe" <nochwer RemoveThis @gmx.net> writes:

> Besides: For pratical play, most 6-men without pawns are simply
> worthless.

They are mostly worthless, but not entirely worthless. I once played
a test game between my old engine and Shredder 9, where Shredder ended
up on the stronger side of a KBNN (or perhaps KBBN, I don't recall
exactly) vs KR endgame. Shredder only managed a draw, but according
to the 6-men EGTBs the endgame was indeed won for the three minor
pieces with perfect play.

It could also be argued that 5-men EGTBs are also not worth a lot in
practical play. Compare the CEGT ratings of Fruit and List with and
without EGTBs, for instance.

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Tord Kallqvist Romstad <romstad.RemoveThis@math.uio.no> wrote:
> "John Doe" <nochwer.RemoveThis@gmx.net> writes:
>> Besides: For pratical play, most 6-men without pawns are simply
>> worthless.
>
> They are mostly worthless, but not entirely worthless. I once played
> a test game between my old engine and Shredder 9, where Shredder ended
> up on the stronger side of a KBNN (or perhaps KBBN, I don't recall
> exactly) vs KR endgame. Shredder only managed a draw, but according
> to the 6-men EGTBs the endgame was indeed won for the three minor
> pieces with perfect play.

Won without the fifty-move rule getting in the way?


Dave.

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David Richerby <davidr.RemoveThis@chiark.greenend.org.uk> writes:

> Tord Kallqvist Romstad <romstad.RemoveThis@math.uio.no> wrote:
> > "John Doe" <nochwer.RemoveThis@gmx.net> writes:
> >> Besides: For pratical play, most 6-men without pawns are simply
> >> worthless.
> >
> > They are mostly worthless, but not entirely worthless. I once played
> > a test game between my old engine and Shredder 9, where Shredder ended
> > up on the stronger side of a KBNN (or perhaps KBBN, I don't recall
> > exactly) vs KR endgame. Shredder only managed a draw, but according
> > to the 6-men EGTBs the endgame was indeed won for the three minor
> > pieces with perfect play.
>
> Won without the fifty-move rule getting in the way?

Yes.

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