NWN2 Healer's Kit?

Oh, and in Temple of Tyr, you need to talk to Oleff... he's not in the
main hall, but in the room to the left.
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> Oh, and in Temple of Tyr, you need to talk to Oleff... he's not in the
> main hall, but in the room to the left.
>

Could you please check again for Healer's Kits?

I checked and Oelff does not have any for sale, I checked under Potions,
under Rings and there were none. Under Misc there is only a Gem of
Brightness. Where did you see Healer's Kits?
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>> Oh, and in Temple of Tyr, you need to talk to Oleff... he's not in the
>> main hall, but in the room to the left.
>>
>
> Could you please check again for Healer's Kits?
>
> I checked and Oelff does not have any for sale, I checked under Potions,
> under Rings and there were none. Under Misc there is only a Gem of
> Brightness. Where did you see Healer's Kits?
>
>
Drax,

First off let me say that I never buy healers kits. Not even in the original
NWNs. I tend to find them, use a few, and end up selling off the surplus
when they get too heavy. That said, I took a tour of Act 1 NWN 2 and found
them in a couple of places, but I may have originally sold them to the
merchants myself. I found them at Sand's shop in the Docks District, and
Simmy had a couple at Old Owl Well. They are under the Misc. category at the
merchants. If you do not see them there, then they must have come from me
originally. It also means that there are none for sale in Act 1 because I
checked all the other merchants, and as I said I do not buy them. The first
place that I think they show up is with Uncus at the Keep in Act 2.

Mox
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On Jan 24, 7:43 am, "Mox 13" <nos... RemoveThis @earthlink.net> wrote:
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> >> Oh, and in Temple of Tyr, you need to talk to Oleff... he's not in the
> >> main hall, but in the room to the left.
>
> > Could you please check again for Healer's Kits?
>
> > I checked and Oelff does not have any for sale, I checked under Potions,
> > under Rings and there were none. Under Misc there is only a Gem of
> > Brightness. Where did you see Healer's Kits?Drax,

I noticed that merchants in NWN2 usually do not have unlimited supplies
of stuff. It's possible that you've bought out the merchants' supplies
of healing kits.

I've run out of merchants to buy arrows and bolts from on occassion
(usually set the spellcasting henchmen to missile weapons only, and no
spell-casting. I possess them when I want a spell cast; otherwise,
that foolish cleric is liable to dispel our Stone-skins while she is
dispelling that web or entangle that everyone saved against)

> First off let me say that I never buy healers kits. Not even in the original
> NWNs. I tend to find them, use a few, and end up selling off the surplus
> when they get too heavy.

I rarely use them; only in cases of disease or healing up NPCs.

> They are under the Misc. category at the
> merchants. If you do not see them there, then they must have come from me
> originally. It also means that there are none for sale in Act 1 because I
> checked all the other merchants, and as I said I do not buy them.

I'm pretty sure I've seen them in a few places (Deekin's? in additon to
the places you've mentioned) but these may be limited in supply and you
may have bought them all out. I'd check, but I'm in Chapt 2 now with
no Chapt 1 saves. Though I think all the Chapt 2 merchants in the city
of Neverwinter are the same... I may go back to the docks, blacklake
and check.
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> "Drax" <Drax RemoveThis @hell.com> wrote in message
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>> "evilwarnut@gmail.com" <evilwarnut RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in
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>>> Oh, and in Temple of Tyr, you need to talk to Oleff... he's not in
>>> the main hall, but in the room to the left.
>>>
>>
>> Could you please check again for Healer's Kits?
>>
>> I checked and Oelff does not have any for sale, I checked under
>> Potions, under Rings and there were none. Under Misc there is only
a
>> Gem of Brightness. Where did you see Healer's Kits?
>>
>>
> Drax,
>
> First off let me say that I never buy healers kits. Not even in the
> original NWNs. I tend to find them, use a few, and end up selling
off
> the surplus when they get too heavy. That said, I took a tour of Act
1
> NWN 2 and found them in a couple of places, but I may have
originally
> sold them to the merchants myself. I found them at Sand's shop in
the
> Docks District, and Simmy had a couple at Old Owl Well. They are
under
> the Misc. category at the merchants. If you do not see them there,
> then they must have come from me originally. It also means that
there
> are none for sale in Act 1 because I checked all the other
merchants,
> and as I said I do not buy them. The first place that I think they
> show up is with Uncus at the Keep in Act 2.
>
> Mox
>
>
>

Checked all those places any could not find any. Does Uncus sell more
then 1 kit? I put skill points in Heal and I hope I can get the kits
needed to use Heal skill?
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On Jan 25, 7:49 am, "Mox 13" <nos... DeleteThis @earthlink.net> wrote:
> <alordofch... DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote in messagenews:1169664570.128375.75230@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
> > I'm pretty sure I've seen them in a few places (Deekin's? in additon to
> > the places you've mentioned) but these may be limited in supply and you
> > may have bought them all out.

> The only Save that I have to re-explore is one right after I get to the
> Keep. So not all areas are open to me. Deekin does not have any Healer Kits
> while he is in Blacklake. He might have them after he moves.

I'm in Chapt 2, but I just went back to all the merchants in
Neverwinter... no one has healing kits. I've never purchased any, so
they weren't bought out. The merchants have the same merchandise,
including stuff I've sold them, as Chapt 1, and stuff that I've left
lying about is still there - so the area hasn't changed between the
chapters.

Interestingly, when I went back to the docks in Neverwinter, the game
put me directly into the Inn, where all the henchmen were waiting...
the same folks that are also waiting at the Keep

> Tor Millows, the priest in Fort Locke might be a possibility. I can't check him because
> the save I am using is after I finished the Fort Locke part of the quest so
> Tor will no longer speak to me. In fact I am not even sure he had things to sell. <s>

He has things to sell up to a certain point, then after you finish the
quests and stuff (may have been between chapters) he no longer has a
merchant dialogue.

I did buy/sell from him in Chapt 1, as he was closest to the map point
for Fort Locke, but when I went back to forge some items (before I
realized there were places at the inn, etc) he wouldn't respond other
than to thank me for the help.
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>>>> Oh, and in Temple of Tyr, you need to talk to Oleff... he's not in
>>>> the main hall, but in the room to the left.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Could you please check again for Healer's Kits?
>>>
>>> I checked and Oelff does not have any for sale, I checked under
>>> Potions, under Rings and there were none. Under Misc there is only
> a
>>> Gem of Brightness. Where did you see Healer's Kits?
>>>
>>>
>> Drax,
>>
>> First off let me say that I never buy healers kits. Not even in the
>> original NWNs. I tend to find them, use a few, and end up selling
> off
>> the surplus when they get too heavy. That said, I took a tour of Act
> 1
>> NWN 2 and found them in a couple of places, but I may have
> originally
>> sold them to the merchants myself. I found them at Sand's shop in
> the
>> Docks District, and Simmy had a couple at Old Owl Well. They are
> under
>> the Misc. category at the merchants. If you do not see them there,
>> then they must have come from me originally. It also means that
> there
>> are none for sale in Act 1 because I checked all the other
> merchants,
>> and as I said I do not buy them. The first place that I think they
>> show up is with Uncus at the Keep in Act 2.
>>
>> Mox
>>
>>
>>
>
> Checked all those places any could not find any. Does Uncus sell more
> then 1 kit? I put skill points in Heal and I hope I can get the kits
> needed to use Heal skill?

Uncus has +1, +3, +6, and +10 kits. I bought out all of his +6 and +10 kits
in one purchase. He still had +1 and +3 kits after I purchased several of
them.
Spoiler-ish below. (If you haven't made it to the keep yet)
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-
-
When you first get to the Keep you have to make a sort of moral decision
whether or not to do business with Uncus. This may be a problem for a Lawful
Good. It was no problem for my Chaotic Good.

Mox
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>> >> Oh, and in Temple of Tyr, you need to talk to Oleff... he's not in the
>> >> main hall, but in the room to the left.
>>
>> > Could you please check again for Healer's Kits?
>>
>> > I checked and Oelff does not have any for sale, I checked under
>> > Potions,
>> > under Rings and there were none. Under Misc there is only a Gem of
>> > Brightness. Where did you see Healer's Kits?Drax,
>
> I noticed that merchants in NWN2 usually do not have unlimited supplies
> of stuff. It's possible that you've bought out the merchants' supplies
> of healing kits.
>
> I've run out of merchants to buy arrows and bolts from on occassion
> (usually set the spellcasting henchmen to missile weapons only, and no
> spell-casting. I possess them when I want a spell cast; otherwise,
> that foolish cleric is liable to dispel our Stone-skins while she is
> dispelling that web or entangle that everyone saved against)
>
>> First off let me say that I never buy healers kits. Not even in the
>> original
>> NWNs. I tend to find them, use a few, and end up selling off the surplus
>> when they get too heavy.
>
> I rarely use them; only in cases of disease or healing up NPCs.
>
>> They are under the Misc. category at the
>> merchants. If you do not see them there, then they must have come from me
>> originally. It also means that there are none for sale in Act 1 because I
>> checked all the other merchants, and as I said I do not buy them.
>
> I'm pretty sure I've seen them in a few places (Deekin's? in additon to
> the places you've mentioned) but these may be limited in supply and you
> may have bought them all out. I'd check, but I'm in Chapt 2 now with
> no Chapt 1 saves. Though I think all the Chapt 2 merchants in the city
> of Neverwinter are the same... I may go back to the docks, blacklake
> and check.
>
The only Save that I have to re-explore is one right after I get to the
Keep. So not all areas are open to me. Deekin does not have any Healer Kits
while he is in Blacklake. He might have them after he moves. Tor Millows,
the priest in Fort Locke might be a possibility. I can't check him because
the save I am using is after I finished the Fort Locke part of the quest so
Tor will no longer speak to me. In fact I am not even sure he had things to
sell. <s>

Mox
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> > Mox, Checked all those places any could not find any. Does Uncus sell more
> then 1 kit? I put skill points in Heal and I hope I can get the kits
> needed to use Heal skill?

I don't think you need a lot of skill points in Heal, unless you're
using them in combat (and potions would be better for that - no chance
of failure)

The way it works (at least in NWN1, haven't confirmed for NWN2) is that
unless there's a harmful effect for failure (like missing your Disarm
Trap check by a lot, which triggers the trap) and you're not under any
pressure (like trying to use a skill in the middle of combat), you get
to "take 20" on your skill check. This means that after the fight is
officially over, which is a few seconds after fighting actually ends,
your Heal skill check roll is automatically 20.

Using a +1 Heal kit is automatically a 21 in a "take 20" situation,
which is enough to cure most diseases, etc. IIRC, you can also attempt
Heal untrained, which means with no skill points in Heal, a +1 Heal
check and no Wis modifier, you still get 21 in a "Take 20"
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On 26 Jan 2007 08:20:40 -0800, alordofchaos RemoveThis @yahoo.com wrote:

>> > "Drax" <D... RemoveThis @hell.com> wrote in message
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>> > Mox, Checked all those places any could not find any. Does Uncus sell more
>> then 1 kit? I put skill points in Heal and I hope I can get the kits
>> needed to use Heal skill?
>
>I don't think you need a lot of skill points in Heal, unless you're
>using them in combat (and potions would be better for that - no chance
>of failure)
>
>The way it works (at least in NWN1, haven't confirmed for NWN2) is that
>unless there's a harmful effect for failure (like missing your Disarm
>Trap check by a lot, which triggers the trap) and you're not under any
>pressure (like trying to use a skill in the middle of combat), you get
>to "take 20" on your skill check. This means that after the fight is
>officially over, which is a few seconds after fighting actually ends,
>your Heal skill check roll is automatically 20.
>
>Using a +1 Heal kit is automatically a 21 in a "take 20" situation,
>which is enough to cure most diseases, etc. IIRC, you can also attempt
>Heal untrained, which means with no skill points in Heal, a +1 Heal
>check and no Wis modifier, you still get 21 in a "Take 20"

For every point in Heal skill you heal 1 extra point of damage so, 5
points in Heal skill means you heal 5 more points of damage. Thats
how it works in both NWN1 and NWN2
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My current game is at the point where I just got the keep. I moved
around and checked all the stores, and I found that I was wrong in my
first reply - I was buying potions, not healer's kits.

I found healer kits are for sale at these two merchants:

Fort Locke, Galen: Healer's kit +1, seems to have an unlimited amount
but available if you saved him and before he left (I'm not sure if he
will really go away).
Highcliff, Branson Marlek, the weapon smith: Healer's kit +1, seems to
have an unlimited amount.

So all my other healer's kits are from drops and containers.
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On 27 Jan 2007 23:31:14 -0800, "evilwarnut@gmail.com"
<evilwarnut.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:

>My current game is at the point where I just got the keep. I moved
>around and checked all the stores, and I found that I was wrong in my
>first reply - I was buying potions, not healer's kits.
>
>I found healer kits are for sale at these two merchants:
>
>Fort Locke, Galen: Healer's kit +1, seems to have an unlimited amount
>but available if you saved him and before he left (I'm not sure if he
>will really go away).
>Highcliff, Branson Marlek, the weapon smith: Healer's kit +1, seems to
>have an unlimited amount.
>
Thanks now I can finally put my Heal skill to good use
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On Jan 27, 1:36 am, Drax <D... DeleteThis @not.com> wrote:
> On 26 Jan 2007 08:20:40 -0800, alordofch... DeleteThis @yahoo.com wrote:
> >> > "Drax" <D... DeleteThis @hell.com> wrote in message
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> >> > Mox, Checked all those places any could not find any. Does Uncus sell more
> >> then 1 kit? I put skill points in Heal and I hope I can get the kits
> >> needed to use Heal skill?
>
> >I don't think you need a lot of skill points in Heal, unless you're
> >using them in combat (and potions would be better for that - no chance of failure)

> For every point in Heal skill you heal 1 extra point of damage so, 5
> points in Heal skill means you heal 5 more points of damage. Thats
> how it works in both NWN1 and NWN2-

Thanks, I never noticed that! Like I said, I don't use heal kits
except for NPCs and diseases.

Does each level of Heal kit do a standard amount of healing?
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