Myst IV (Revelation) question

On Mon, 03 Apr 2006 01:42:06 -0400, Mary wrote:

>> "Jenny100" nospam.RemoveThis@nospam.com
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>> > On Sat, 01 Apr 2006 18:21:01 -0500, Mary wrote:
>> >
>> >> "B.C." <my.RemoveThis@emailadres.is.invalid> wrote in message news:e0mou3$1k09
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>> > There is no CD version of Myst IV. It would have taken up 10 to 12
> CD's,
>> > which would have cost them too much for packaging, etc.
>>
>> .....and changing CD's would be very annoying in playing the
> game......
>
> Thats what I thought it might be - too many CD's and yes changing them
> with all those CD's, would even bother me. Six is my maximum though I can
> only think of GK2 being 6 CD's. Jenny, do you know if End of Ages is on
> DVD Rom?
>
> Mary

The "Collector's Edition of Myst V is on DVD.
The regular North American version is on 3 CD's (I think it's 3).
The regular UK version is on one DVD.
The DVD versions are hybrid Win/Mac. The CD version is PC only.
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On Mon, 03 Apr 2006 01:38:16 -0400, Mary wrote:

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>> "Mary" <no DeleteThis @japamjunk.com> schreef in bericht
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>> > "Mary" <no DeleteThis @japamjunk.com> wrote in message
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>> > Sometimes its a womans world - maybe not about elevators though,
> unless
>> > you're stuck in one with a man
>> >
>> > Mary
>>
>> Hurry up to that elevator.....I think I saw von Glower in it!!!
>>
>>
>
> Hurrying to the elevator
> Actually, I forgot about him. But I see he is still on your mind though
> I haven't seen or heard anything about him for ages. He seems to have
> disappeared. He used to be on TV programs now and then and used to write
> me a note when he was going to be on a TV show so I could tell people and
> they might watch. I think that was when I was with my last ISP, but
> haven't see him in any TV shows unless maybe some I don't watch.
>
> Mary

If you changed email addresses, maybe he tried to send you something and
you didn't get it.
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"Jenny100" <nospam RemoveThis @nospam.com> schreef in bericht
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> On Mon, 03 Apr 2006 01:38:16 -0400, Mary wrote:
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> If you changed email addresses, maybe he tried to send you something and
> you didn't get it.


.....or maybe love is over.....from his side

Barbara
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"Jenny100" <nospam.TakeThisOut@nospam.com> schreef in bericht
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> On Sun, 02 Apr 2006 21:01:21 +0200, B.C. wrote:

..
> I didn't like the hand. I didn't like having to wait for it to finish
> waving around all the time before you could grab something with it.

Exactly my feelings
But wandering around.......how beautifull this game is..!!!
On the other hand........seem feeling as in Riven......do I have to do
something?? And if so....WHAT????
I push a button, pull a lever.....but nothing happens..!
But that will change.....with a walkthrough!!!

Barbara
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> "Jenny100" <nospam.TakeThisOut@nospam.com> schreef in bericht
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> > On Sun, 02 Apr 2006 21:01:21 +0200, B.C. wrote:
>
> .
> > I didn't like the hand. I didn't like having to wait for it to
finish
> > waving around all the time before you could grab something with it.
>
> Exactly my feelings
> But wandering around.......how beautifull this game is..!!!
> On the other hand........seem feeling as in Riven......do I have to do
> something?? And if so....WHAT????
> I push a button, pull a lever.....but nothing happens..!
> But that will change.....with a walkthrough!!!

Or a few walkthroughs

Mary
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> > "B.C." <my.RemoveThis@emailadres.is.invalid> wrote in message
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> >> > Yes, but still can't get the door open.
> >>
> >> It's a man's world MaryJ............no power but the elevator is
> > working
> >
> > You mean where you press the red button?
>
> No not there....go back to where Atrus was standing......
>
> > happened. How do you get the door open - no hints, just outright
> > answers. Maybe once I get going I'll do better - I hope
>
> Did you met Atrus? He was standing near the crystal viewer....see the
steam
> coming out??

Thats not where I finally got into the elevator. I was already at the
lever to get into the elevator. Its at the right side of the elevator. I
didn't see the handle before. It was too dark, so had to adjust the
gamma, then its too light. Oh well, I will fiddle with the lighting
more. Its pretty dark in there in some spots and not others.

> From there turn slowly to the right....opposite from where the light
is
> coming in.....you see a lever....and yes even a blue hand can handle
the
> lever....

Where the wrecked machine is, you turn left to find the handle which
opens the door to get in the elevator not right. The handle is at the
right side of the stairs and you can see the elevator at the bottom of
the stairs. Before, I saw only the orange square thing below the handle,
but didn't see the handle.
I really don't like that hand cursor. Its hard to wait to see if you
need to grab something or leave it. Wastes a lot of time. It would have
been better with a pointer or small hand where the hand curled up when
you could grab something to make it obvious there is something to pick
up.The cursor in a game is very important.

Mary
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On Mon, 03 Apr 2006 21:52:36 +0200, B.C. wrote:

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>> On Sun, 02 Apr 2006 21:01:21 +0200, B.C. wrote:
>
> .
>> I didn't like the hand. I didn't like having to wait for it to finish
>> waving around all the time before you could grab something with it.
>
> Exactly my feelings
> But wandering around.......how beautifull this game is..!!! On the other
> hand........seem feeling as in Riven......do I have to do something?? And
> if so....WHAT????
> I push a button, pull a lever.....but nothing happens..! But that will
> change.....with a walkthrough!!!
>
> Barbara

There's nothing like a walkthrough when you're mired in the great black
stuckness. I didn't think the puzzles in Myst IV were as well clued as
in the previous Myst games. I haven't played Myst V. The most recent game
I've played is Scratches.

I'm not sure if Mary is seeing my posts or not.
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On Tue, 04 Apr 2006 01:52:11 +0000, Murray Peterson wrote:

> Jenny100 <nospam DeleteThis @nospam.com> wrote in news:pan.2006.04.03.23.18.46.563248
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>
>> The most recent game I've played is Scratches.
>
> How did you like it? Should I add it to my "must buy" list?

I think you'd like it overall.
No action sequences.
No evil copy "protection."
I liked how you could get a close up of the pictures on the wall.
Jonathan Boakes, who made the Dark Fall games, voiced the guy you talk to
on the telephone.
I got the game for $20 and thought it was certainly worth that.

But it wasn't perfect. There are a couple of fussy hotspots. Even with a
walkthrough I had trouble finding them. One of them lacked feedback to
the extent that I had to look in my inventory to see that I was
successful.

I didn't care for the "soft edge panning" movement system. I spent most of
the game looking downward because you have to pan down to click the
doorknobs to open the doors in the house (and they always close behind you
so you have to reopen them every single time you walk through). Looking
back up from the doorknob again by trying to find the sweet spot to nudge
the point of view upward got too tedious (as well as giving me nausea), so
I ended up looking down whenever I was moving around the house. There is
an option for snapshot style instead of allowing you to pan at nodes. But
there was no option for central cursor type panning (the type the Atlantis
games used). I tried the snapshot style, but it seemed a bit too much like
having blinders on (despite the fact that I didn't mind snapshot style in
games like RHEM 2, Alida, or Harvest).

There were some things - I wasn't sure if they were red
herrings or whether they related to the plot. I'd have liked a bit more
exposition at the end. I think they left the end a little open so you
could decide for yourself whether what took place was related to the
supernatural or not.
Overall worth a try though, despite my complaints. The plot was
interesting enough that there is quite a long thread about it at
Gameboomers.
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"Jenny100" <nospam.DeleteThis@nospam.com> schreef in bericht
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> On Mon, 03 Apr 2006 21:52:36 +0200, B.C. wrote:

> There's nothing like a walkthrough when you're mired in the great black
> stuckness. I didn't think the puzzles in Myst IV were as well clued as
> in the previous Myst games.

I've played the demo of Myst relevation......solved that puzzle (fireplace)
When I can't go anywhere like in the demo I solved those puzzles but when I
can walk around.........I keep searching for other
hints................ending up looking at a walkthrough.....

> I'm not sure if Mary is seeing my posts or not.

She probably too busy looking after this lovely Yeesha.....as Atrus told her
to do

Barbara
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On Tue, 04 Apr 2006 14:02:52 +0200, B.C. wrote:

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> "Jenny100" <nospam.RemoveThis@nospam.com> schreef in bericht
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>> On Mon, 03 Apr 2006 21:52:36 +0200, B.C. wrote:
>
>> There's nothing like a walkthrough when you're mired in the great black
>> stuckness. I didn't think the puzzles in Myst IV were as well clued
>> as in the previous Myst games.
>
> I've played the demo of Myst relevation......solved that puzzle
> (fireplace) When I can't go anywhere like in the demo I solved those
> puzzles but when I can walk around.........I keep searching for other
> hints................ending up looking at a walkthrough.....

Exactly. You can spend all day looking for clues and never see them. And
it's harder to find things when you have to pan all over the place to
make sure you see everything.

>> I'm not sure if Mary is seeing my posts or not.
>
> She probably too busy looking after this lovely Yeesha.....as Atrus told
> her to do
>
> Barbara

I thought she might be missing posts. She's had that problem before. Her
newsreader service is not so good.
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On Tue, 04 Apr 2006 23:00:58 -0400, Mary wrote:

>> "Jenny100" <nospam.RemoveThis@nospam.com>
>
>> > There is no CD version of Myst IV. It would have taken up 10 to 12
> CD's,
>> > which would have cost them too much for packaging, etc.
>>
>> .....and changing CD's would be very annoying in playing the
> game......
>
> Jenny, did you play End of Ages? How was it compared to Myst Exile which I
> liked.?
>
> Mary
>

I haven't played Myst V: End of Ages yet.
I played Myst IV: Revelation and liked some things about it but not
others. I didn't like the waving hand cursor, for example. I wanted it to
settle down and behave itself. I liked Myst III: Exile better than
Myst IV: Revelation. I liked the puzzles better. Have you tried
downloading the demo for Myst V: End of Ages? It's a big demo, but maybe
you could leave it downloading overnight or something. It might give you
an idea about whether you'd like the game or not.
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On Tue, 04 Apr 2006 22:53:26 -0400, Mary wrote:

> "Jenny100" <nospam RemoveThis @nospam.com> wrote in message
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>> On Tue, 04 Apr 2006 14:02:52 +0200, B.C. wrote:
>>
>>
>> > "Jenny100" <nospam RemoveThis @nospam.com> schreef in bericht
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>> >> On Mon, 03 Apr 2006 21:52:36 +0200, B.C. wrote:
>> >
>> >> There's nothing like a walkthrough when you're mired in the great
> black
>> >> stuckness. I didn't think the puzzles in Myst IV were as well
> clued
>> >> as in the previous Myst games.
>> >
>> > I've played the demo of Myst relevation......solved that puzzle
>> > (fireplace) When I can't go anywhere like in the demo I solved those
>> > puzzles but when I can walk around.........I keep searching for
> other
>> > hints................ending up looking at a walkthrough.....
>>
>> Exactly. You can spend all day looking for clues and never see them.
> And
>> it's harder to find things when you have to pan all over the place to
>> make sure you see everything.
>>
>> >> I'm not sure if Mary is seeing my posts or not.
>> >
>> > She probably too busy looking after this lovely Yeesha.....as Atrus
> told
>> > her to do
>> >
>> > Barbara
>>
>> I thought she might be missing posts. She's had that problem before.
> Her
>> newsreader service is not so good.
>
> Hey! I have two new news servers and both have been ok most of the time.
> Usually if one gets stuck the other is ok. Not often are both stuck, but
> could happen. One is free, and the other was just a small set up fee.
> Rogers dropped all newsgroups in December saying that not enough people
> used Usenet for them to keep them. Not true, but that was their excuse. Of
> course I am still paying the same monthly amount for Internet, and in
> fact, the month after they dropped Usenet, my Internet went up $5.00 a
> month. It should have gone down, not up, but they only think of themselves
> and how they can make more money.
>
> Mary

Well I'm glad to see you can still get newsgroups. You used to have Rogers
and before that you had AT&T. And both of them used to miss messages,
especially over the weekend. I don't suppose Rogers improved your download
speed for that extra $5.00, did they?
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> Barbara, did you see my message below I sent yesterday?

I see it now!

> didn't see the handle before. It was too dark, so had to adjust the
> gamma, then its too light. Oh well, I will fiddle with the lighting
> more. Its pretty dark in there in some spots and not others.

I play when it is evening and dark then I see much more......at daylight you
miss a lot.....!

I'm of.....swimming with Yeesha ......she is so lovely.
Started a new game yesterday....using a walkthough to see what I missed in
the first part of the game and I missed a lot!
Now I 'll understand Murray's frustration with the crystals.....so I don't
have to repeat that
I am enjoying the game a lot....! How about you?
See you where Yeesha used to swim.
Barbara
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