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(Msg. 16) Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 1:09 am
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Enigma Berries came from the R/S Battle Cards, pissed that the cards for
the other games did not come to the US. they were fun additions.
damn, can't find the scan card, but
http://www.serebii.net/berrydex-dp/60.shtml
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>> What would you like for 1 liechi berry? that is the only one I have
>> missing numbered 1-59 -- Enigma Berries can't be traded 
>
> Really? What did the Enigma Berries do? And how did one get them?
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(Msg. 17) Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 3:25 am
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> > I was in school all day from the age of 4, but then, that's national
> > variance for you.
>
> Here we get school half days at 4 & 5 or (depending on different
> school boards and stuff) all day but every 2 days and alternating
> Fridays. That one could drive me batty trying to find childcare for
> the other times.
I had half-days in my school at the age of three, although it was little
more than a nursery that just happened to serve as an introduction to the
school - we didn't really interact with the other kids, with separate play
times and even a separate toilet.
> > That's lovely. I do get that feeling from Feebas, actually, of wanting
> > to
> > share, but since I got mine for breeding from Icehawk's offer anyway ...
> > well, I suppose I can GTS them for less rare Pokémon.
>
> Yes, Feebas needs to be spread out.
Agreed. Feebas was always ludicrouly rare, and having been through the
fiasco of finding one once in this lifetime, I'm more than happy to leech
off others' work and pass on the rejects.
> I just got some Sentret last night. I had forgotten how cute they
> were.
I can't remember how I felt about them at the time. I think I was quite
harsh with most second-generation Pokémon that weren't Girafarig or Gligar
to begin with. I quickly grew to like them all, but it was strange, being
the first ever batch of monsters that were added later. But by now, I think
it's clear that Sentret is far superior to Rattata.
> I think I was pregs with the kid when I went on a spree of filling up
> my 'dexes. But maybe that was only BY (I rented Red). When did Gold
> and Silver come out?
They'd definitely been released by 2001, since I created my PokéWars!
character in May of that year, and he's from Johto. In fact, I'm pretty
sure they'd just been released a month or so previously, so with a six-month
wait between the US and the UK ... assuming Canada shared its release date
with the US, it'd be October 2000.
> Ya, I have gotten them (I can't remember Shiny ones, but I have more
> than 1 so maybe) from the Underground. Bury some Spheres and dig
> spots will grow up around that spot.
Hang on, mind explaining this further? Does burying spheres increase the
odds of Evolution Stones appearing?
> Also medium to high level (well,
> I am still under 60) Pickup should net you some stones.
Yeah, I'm still raising my Ambipom team. Two are in the 40s now.
> But King's
> Rock is under 30 (and I think over 11) and is only 1% so I still only
> have 1 of those.
I got one quite early, actually - around :L13 or so - but it was my only one
to date.
> And I need more. I just might end up raising up
> some of the newer Pickup artists just to try 'goon squading.
I did consider that - after all, it must be Pachirisu's only purpose in
life - but then I thought, Ambipom has four arms. That's bound to improve
its success rate!
> I planted 1 Hondew (I think) and I got 20 berries from it. Blew my
> mind. I guess I watered it enough. 
Wow, you're telling me! I'm so glad berries are easier to grow in this
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(Msg. 18) Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 7:22 am
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On Sep 10, 8:08 pm, "Steffan Alun" <iceduckathotmaildotcom> wrote:
> "daramark" <daram....DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > Sun Stone, 4, Moon Stone 19, Shiny Stone 3, Dawn Stone 4, Dusk Stone
> > 7, Water Stone 28 (gee, that's alot), Thunder Stone 6, Fire Stone 11,
> > Leaf Stone 13 (there's more in the basement), Oval Stone 1 (why can't
> > I find more of these?). Then there are: Smooth Rock 12, Icy Rock 3,
> > Heat Rock 4, Damp Rock 19.
>
> Goodness me, that's amazing. Are the Shiny Stones, Dawn Stones and Dusk
> Stones available underground? Because those are the ones I'm going to need
> the most, I think, with the others available freely in FL. Still, if you
> don't mind, I might be nabbing some Dusk Stones from you down the line.
I just stole an Oval Stone from a wild Chansey (that makes 2 of them)
with a Skitty with Covet (while trying for Snubbull, today's Swarm).
I was beginning to think that the move was broken or something. I
guess all those Magnamite really didn't have Metal Coats.
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(Msg. 19) Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 4:18 pm
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> I just stole an Oval Stone from a wild Chansey (that makes 2 of them)
> with a Skitty with Covet (while trying for Snubbull, today's Swarm).
> I was beginning to think that the move was broken or something. I
> guess all those Magnamite really didn't have Metal Coats.
Bad luck has a way of making you suspect the strangest things. Searching
for a Dragon Scale on Bagon back in RS made me think Covet had only a 50%
chance of stealing the item or something, but I'm pretty sure it does work.
Oh, and the Munchlax you gave me finally evolved!
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(Msg. 20) Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 4:26 pm
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> > They'd definitely been released by 2001, since I created my PokéWars!
> > character in May of that year, and he's from Johto. In fact, I'm pretty
> > sure they'd just been released a month or so previously, so with a
> > six-month
> > wait between the US and the UK ... assuming Canada shared its release
> > date
> > with the US, it'd be October 2000.
>
> Ya I thought I must have had them before she came along. So I filled
> about 4 maybe 5 (when was Crystal released?) 'dexes. I don't think I
> ever really finished those games though. I caught (the hard way) the
> legendary dogs once and just transfered them from 1 game to another.
> I cheated.
I never caught the GSC 'mon in FL or Emerald either - I just got the ones I
needed from Colosseum, and bred or traded them all. So there's probably a
wild Entei still on the loose in LeafGreen somewhere.
> > Hang on, mind explaining this further? Does burying spheres increase
> > the
> > odds of Evolution Stones appearing?
>
> Not the Treasures, but the dig spots themselves.
So ... if I want lots of dig spots near my secret base, all I have to do is
bury spheres there?
> If you have someone
> you can steal the flag from (easiest to just move the two bases beside
> each other and go back and forth) until you have the Gold flag you can
> get the Radar that will search out where Treasures are buried.
Yeah, I've got that, but it seems to classify spheres as treasure as well,
which is pretty annoying.
> If you
> really have time to kill: you get to 100 captures of the flag there is
> a Mr. Goods prize (I think Platinum flag is at 50).
I don't care much for, but my girlfriend's secret base is right next to
mine, so I'll be stealing the flag a fair few times before the next games
come along.
> Cute. I like Pach though.
Fair enough, then. I'm no great fan of any cute Electric type with circles
on its cheeks, and I don't much like real-life squirrels either, so
Pachirisu has a tough time trying to grow on me.
> And I don't think I have an Aipom with
> Pickup (of course just typing this I am reminded that I have a
> Ditto....or two)
My first Ambipom (with Technician) was female, so I bred three more, and
they all happened to have Pick Up.
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(Msg. 21) Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 4:30 pm
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> Enigma Berries came from the R/S Battle Cards, pissed that the cards
> for the other games did not come to the US. they were fun additions.
Ah, right, that device that'd unlock the final Trainer's Eyes trainer, add a
star to your Trainer Card, and *didn't come out in the UK*. I hate them
all.
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(Msg. 22) Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 5:55 pm
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>>
>> > Hang on, mind explaining this further? Does burying spheres increase
>> > the
>> > odds of Evolution Stones appearing?
>>
>> Not the Treasures, but the dig spots themselves.
>
> So ... if I want lots of dig spots near my secret base, all I have to do
> is bury spheres there?
>
Yeah, I noticed that. I started burying my excess spheres near my base
whenever I ran out of space in my bag. Now whenever I go down there, I find
dig spots up to yin-yang! I'm also quickly running out of room for
spheres...
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(Msg. 23) Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 8:58 am
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On Sep 11, 5:09 pm, "Chet Weaver - Now with Outlook Express!"
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> "Steffan Alun" <iceduckathotmaildotcom> wrote in message
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> news:jaydnROoZu4tLnvb4p2dnAA@bt.com...> "daramark" <daram....TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> >> > Hang on, mind explaining this further? Does burying spheres increase
> >> > the
> >> > odds of Evolution Stones appearing?
>
> >> Not the Treasures, but the dig spots themselves.
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> > So ... if I want lots of dig spots near my secret base, all I have to do
> > is bury spheres there?
>
> Yeah, I noticed that. I started burying my excess spheres near my base
> whenever I ran out of space in my bag. Now whenever I go down there, I find
> dig spots up to yin-yang! I'm also quickly running out of room for
> spheres...
As I understand it, the red, green and blue ones gro faster and only
go up to 99, then they disappear (I think, they aren't where I put
them anyway). The Prism and Pale grow slower so it takes longer for
them to escape.
> "It's the abominable snowman! And I don't think he appreciates my honesty!"
> - Shaggy, "Chill Out, Scooby Doo"
I saw that.  It was cute.
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(Msg. 24) Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 8:50 pm
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"Steffan Alun" <iceduckathotmaildotcom> wrote in message
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> "daramark" <daramark.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> As I understand it, the red, green and blue ones gro faster and only
>> go up to 99, then they disappear (I think, they aren't where I put
>> them anyway). The Prism and Pale grow slower so it takes longer for
>> them to escape.
>
> Also worth noting is the combined burying trick - if you bury two spheres
> of the same colour next to each other, the one you bury second will be
> absorbed into the first. As such, if you have a bunch of spheres of the
> same colour, bury the largest one first.
>
Yeah, that's what I do, except I only combine spheres under ten. You don't
get their combined values when you do that (i.e. Blue 10 and Blue 10 don't
make Blue 20), and they don't average, either (i.e. Blue 8 and Blue 2 don't
make Blue 5). I wonder what that formula is...
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(Msg. 25) Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 9:22 pm
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"daramark" <daramark.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> As I understand it, the red, green and blue ones gro faster and only
> go up to 99, then they disappear (I think, they aren't where I put
> them anyway). The Prism and Pale grow slower so it takes longer for
> them to escape.
Also worth noting is the combined burying trick - if you bury two spheres of
the same colour next to each other, the one you bury second will be absorbed
into the first. As such, if you have a bunch of spheres of the same colour,
bury the largest one first.
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(Msg. 26) Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 11:16 pm
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"Chet Weaver - Now with Outlook Express!" <zeroohki RemoveThis @aim.com> wrote in
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> Yeah, that's what I do, except I only combine spheres under ten.
That's interesting. The guide I read claimed that it wasn't worth combining
spheres of such a low level, but I've been doing so too, and with a fair
amount of success. Probably because I leave them long enough to increase in
size rapidly.
> You don't get their combined values when you do that (i.e. Blue 10 and
> Blue 10 don't make Blue 20), and they don't average, either (i.e. Blue 8
> and Blue 2 don't make Blue 5). I wonder what that formula is...
Good question. The two points you make are, I think, the best argument for
starting with the biggest. I wonder whether they do something funky like
add on the average. Probably worth experimenting, though since even
standalone spheres grow a certain amount, it'd take a while to hammer out
the values.
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(Msg. 27) Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 8:50 pm
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Steffan Alun wrote:
> "Chet Weaver - Now with Outlook Express!" <zeroohki RemoveThis @aim.com> wrote in
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>> Yeah, that's what I do, except I only combine spheres under ten.
>
> That's interesting. The guide I read claimed that it wasn't worth
> combining spheres of such a low level, but I've been doing so too,
> and with a fair amount of success. Probably because I leave them
> long enough to increase in size rapidly.
>
>> You don't get their combined values when you do that (i.e. Blue 10
>> and Blue 10 don't make Blue 20), and they don't average, either
>> (i.e. Blue 8 and Blue 2 don't make Blue 5). I wonder what that
>> formula is...
>
> Good question. The two points you make are, I think, the best
> argument for starting with the biggest. I wonder whether they do
> something funky like add on the average. Probably worth
> experimenting, though since even standalone spheres grow a certain
> amount, it'd take a while to hammer out the values.
The formula I saw on GameFAQs* said the largest sphere counts for its full
size, and every other sphere is divided by 5, rounded down, and increased by
1. So I think Blue 10 x2 becomes:
10 + ((10/5) + 1) = 10 + (2 + 1) = 13
And Blue 8 + Blue 2 is:
8 + ((2/5) + 1) = 8 + (0 + 1) = 9
There were also some glitches/exceptions mentioned, along the lines of "if
you bury multiples of the smallest size, only one counts" or "try not to
bury the largest one last".
* Well, *a* formula. One guide says it's the first one you put in that
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>> "I would also like to know. I haven't even heard about them. Diamond and
>> Jade (lol). Who the hell would have bought that? hahahahaha."--"Ben"
>> "[walks off grumbling]" --Weaver
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> Off-topic, but ...
>
> Wow, Diamond and Jade! I'd forgotten all about those. And now there's
> *real* Pokémon Diamond! Wonder if the Yellow/Crystal/Emerald of this
> generation will be called Jade ...
>
I think I remember that. That was really a hacked Telefang game, right? I
think I remember hearing about that game lately, too. Like it was coming
out in the states or getting an anime or something.
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> "I would also like to know. I haven't even heard about them. Diamond and
> Jade (lol). Who the hell would have bought that? hahahahaha."--"Ben"
> "[walks off grumbling]" --Weaver
Off-topic, but ...
Wow, Diamond and Jade! I'd forgotten all about those. And now there's
*real* Pokémon Diamond! Wonder if the Yellow/Crystal/Emerald of this
generation will be called Jade ...
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