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Henry J Cobb

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 3:49 am
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Rings have a good chance of being generated cursed. Sokoban has at
least four rings and there are times and places in Sokoban where you
want to keep your pets out of areas (while you build up the Animal Farm
for the Big Push).

So drop the Sokoban rings at the pinch points to the pits or holes and
your pets will soon point out to you which ones are cursed.

It's not like most rings can be used against you and the tight areas of
Sokoban are some of the best places to deal with invisible monsters and
such.

-HJC
The goblin puts on a cursed ring of conflict.
Fido bites! You die.

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John H.

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 7:11 am
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This is generally a good strategy. Not perfect, but I like this kind
of thinking.

- John H.

On Dec 30, 6:49 am, Henry J Cobb <hc... DeleteThis @io.com> wrote:
> Rings have a good chance of being generated cursed. Sokoban has at
> least four rings and there are times and places in Sokoban where you
> want to keep your pets out of areas (while you build up the Animal Farm
> for the Big Push).
>
> So drop the Sokoban rings at the pinch points to the pits or holes and
> your pets will soon point out to you which ones are cursed.
>
> It's not like most rings can be used against you and the tight areas of
> Sokoban are some of the best places to deal with invisible monsters and
> such.
>
> -HJC
> The goblin puts on a cursed ring of conflict.
> Fido bites! You die.

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Michael Deutschmann

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 2:27 pm
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On Sun, 30 Dec 2007, Henry J Cobb wrote:
> It's not like most rings can be used against you and the tight areas of
> Sokoban are some of the best places to deal with invisible monsters and
> such.

Actually, rings will never be used against you. Monsters just don't wear
them. (They never do anything with spellbooks, either.)

This actually makes the game harder in a few ways. If monsters did wear
rings, it would be possible to nondestructively identify a ring even if
one already has its power as a permanent intrinsic.

If monsters wore rings, you could power up pets better. For example, you
could:

* charm a random monster that can wear armor, such as an elf.
* drop a spare set of silver dragon scales, ring of fire resistance,
and ring of poison resistance in front of it.
* wait for it to wear all three
* zap with polymorph

Then you could have a mount that is immune to beam attacks, fire traps,
blue jellies, and poison instakills. You could also get stoning
resistance by going with yellow scales and an amulet of reflection -- but
you'd lose cold resistance unless you swap one of the rings.

---- Michael Deutschmann <michael RemoveThis @talamasca.ocis.net>
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chuckcar

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 4:53 pm
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Henry J Cobb <hcobb.RemoveThis@io.com> wrote in
news:iZGdndQYJoUhGOranZ2dnUVZ_rWtnZ2d@io.com:

> Rings have a good chance of being generated cursed. Sokoban has at
> least four rings and there are times and places in Sokoban where you
> want to keep your pets out of areas (while you build up the Animal
> Farm for the Big Push).
>
> So drop the Sokoban rings at the pinch points to the pits or holes and
> your pets will soon point out to you which ones are cursed.
>
> It's not like most rings can be used against you and the tight areas
> of Sokoban are some of the best places to deal with invisible monsters
> and such.
>
> -HJC
> The goblin puts on a cursed ring of conflict.
> Fido bites! You die.

Bringing pets into sokoban is pretty problematic unless you happen to
have a magic whistle at that point.

--
(setq (chuck nil) car(chuck) )
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Jukka Lahtinen

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 6:55 pm
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Henry J Cobb

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 12:11 am
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Kent Paul Dolan wrote:
> I find a stack of cursed darts is pretty much ideal
> for this purpose. They are usually encountered
> early, especially by PCs who methodically untrap all
> dart and arrow traps, they are light weight even in
> modest bulk, and they only use one inventory slot.

Untrapping dart traps can be lethal (or at least ST draining) and random
monsters are much more likely to pick up darts than random rings.

-HJC
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Carl

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 9:24 am
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On Dec 31, 5:17 am, Jukka Lahtinen <jtfjd....TakeThisOut@hotmail.com.invalid>
wrote:
> Michael Deutschmann <mich....TakeThisOut@talamasca.ocis.net> writes:
> > On Sun, 30 Dec 2007, Henry J Cobb wrote:
> > > It's not like most rings can be used against you and the tight areas of
> > > Sokoban are some of the best places to deal with invisible monsters and
> > Actually, rings will never be used against you.  Monsters just don't wear
> > them.  (They never do anything with spellbooks, either.)
>
> They don't?
> I was almost sure about having encountered something wearing a ring of
> invisibility..
>
Monsters do sometimes pick up rings or spellbooks, though, depending
on whether they have an affinity for that type of object.
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Boudewijn Waijers

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 1:12 pm
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On Dec 30, 6:49 am, Henry J Cobb <hc....RemoveThis@io.com> wrote:

> The goblin puts on a cursed ring of conflict.
> Fido bites! You die.

I like your way of thinking...

--
Boudewijn.

--
I loathe people who keep dogs. They are cowards who haven't
got the guts to bite people themselves. - August Strindberg.
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Boudewijn Waijers

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 1:24 pm
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Kent Paul Dolan wrote:

> I find a stack of cursed darts is pretty much ideal
> for this purpose. They are usually encountered
> early, especially by PCs who methodically untrap all
> dart and arrow traps, they are light weight even in
> modest bulk, and they only use one inventory slot.

And these can be used in other places, as well. My favorite use is in
large shops where I want to use my pets to rob the place empty:

First you follow your pet into the shop, and pick up everything it steps
on (except for unknown scrolls, that might turn to dust, if you cannot
afford those). Carry these to a few spots near the entrance of the shop,
and drop them there. If you did your work well, the only items left in
the shop are either cursed or mimics.

Now, use your cursed darts to limit the movement space of your pet:

-------------
| *) ] |
####- *) [ = |
| *) |
|***) ? [ |
-------------

The ) are cursed darts, the "items" on the right are cursed items or
mimics (whatever items your pet won't step on), the * are piles of
non-cursed stuff (left where the shopkeeper won't go, so your pet can
reach them).

Now you just put yourself one space outside the shop, and let your pet
apport the goodies. When it drops them on the free space or in the
doorway, just move forward and pick them up. Because of the pet's
limited movement space, chances are much bigger that it will drop them
on a free space, and likewise, chances are reduced that it will move
them away from the door...

--
Boudewijn.

"Would those who believe in telekinesis please raise my hand?"
- Maarten Pieters, in NRC Handelsblad.
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Jukka Lahtinen

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 3:17 pm
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