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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 9:11 am
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Fellow simmers:
I have three 22" monitors that I want to set up so I can see all sides of an
aircraft and span the virtual cockpit, etc. I have a 256 MB Nvidia Geforce
6200 AGP card. I have two monitors set up using Dual View. I am using FS9. I
bought FSX Deluxe but have not installed it on my P2.4 because I'm not sure
my monitors will support it.

I know Matrox makes a triple head AGP video card and a triplehead2go analog
or digital device. The latter costs over $300 and the former is much less.
My friend has the Matrox device with FSX and a Geforce 7950 and it looks
fabulous.

My questions are: should I get the triplehead2go digital or the Parhelia
card with three inputs (analog). Will either one support my system
configuration? How much will it cost me to upgrade required components?
Thanks for your help.

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:50 pm
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On 3/12/2008 1:07 PM, newsiimmer went clickity clack on the keyboard and
produced this interesting bit of text:
> Thanks Quilly. What kind of a minimal cost gaming rig should I build or
> buy from retail store or Ebay to support FSX? Should I keep it XP Pro
> SP2 or move onto Vista? I heard Vista can choke a gaming
> machine.Arrrrrrrrgh-I hear it already.

Oh boy, let the messages fly! We LOVE talking about what hardware you
should use.

Okay, minimum stuff:

Dual-core processor, minimum 2.2 or 2.4 GHz. FSX is processor intensive
so this is one of the prime areas for considering getting better.

2 GB RAM

nVidia 79xx video card with 512 MB of RAM

650 - 750 watt power supply

These are the prime considerations. The rest is details. Hard drive,
optical drive, how many USB ports it will support, etc., these aren't
really important to the performance that FSX requires.

If you want a bit more performance, I suggest the following:

Quad-core processor running as fast as possible

nVidia 8800GT with 512 MB RAM

The rest stays the same. As for the OS, you'll get people who say that
Vista chews up processor cycles (I'm one of them) and you'll get those
who use Vista and say they haven't seen any degradation. If you opt for
more RAM then I recommend a 64 bit OS so that it will better use that
memory as the 32 bit OS's can't do much with more than 3 GB of RAM and,
well, I don't suggest getting an odd amount of RAM. The motherboard
won't be able to have fast access to it.

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:50 pm
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Thanks Vernon. I do however dispute the 64-bit OS because I understand from
research and friends that there is hardly any hardware or software support
for it- especially where 32-bit stuff is concerned.

From what you say I'm better off with the 512 or 1024 MB 8800GT (by XFX or
EVGA). Which mobo would you recommend that suppports Quad and everything
before it? How about a super cool case to support the kick from the power
supply and video card?

Anything else you or anyone else can think of-throw it in. Is it worth
buying a gaming rig from Ebay?

Thanks newsiimer
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"Vernon Balbert" <vbalbert.TakeThisOut@gmail.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:HmXBj.17309$0o7.2411@newssvr13.news.prodigy.net...
> On 3/12/2008 1:07 PM, newsiimmer went clickity clack on the keyboard and
> produced this interesting bit of text:
>> Thanks Quilly. What kind of a minimal cost gaming rig should I build or
>> buy from retail store or Ebay to support FSX? Should I keep it XP Pro SP2
>> or move onto Vista? I heard Vista can choke a gaming
>> machine.Arrrrrrrrgh-I hear it already.
>
> Oh boy, let the messages fly! We LOVE talking about what hardware you
> should use.
>
> Okay, minimum stuff:
>
> Dual-core processor, minimum 2.2 or 2.4 GHz. FSX is processor intensive
> so this is one of the prime areas for considering getting better.
>
> 2 GB RAM
>
> nVidia 79xx video card with 512 MB of RAM
>
> 650 - 750 watt power supply
>
> These are the prime considerations. The rest is details. Hard drive,
> optical drive, how many USB ports it will support, etc., these aren't
> really important to the performance that FSX requires.
>
> If you want a bit more performance, I suggest the following:
>
> Quad-core processor running as fast as possible
>
> nVidia 8800GT with 512 MB RAM
>
> The rest stays the same. As for the OS, you'll get people who say that
> Vista chews up processor cycles (I'm one of them) and you'll get those who
> use Vista and say they haven't seen any degradation. If you opt for more
> RAM then I recommend a 64 bit OS so that it will better use that memory as
> the 32 bit OS's can't do much with more than 3 GB of RAM and, well, I
> don't suggest getting an odd amount of RAM. The motherboard won't be able
> to have fast access to it.
>
> --
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:50 pm
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On 3/12/2008 4:23 PM, newsiimmer went clickity clack on the keyboard and
produced this interesting bit of text:
> Thanks Vernon. I do however dispute the 64-bit OS because I understand from
> research and friends that there is hardly any hardware or software support
> for it- especially where 32-bit stuff is concerned.

For my own equipment (and I have a bit here) the only thing that is not
supported by a 64-bit OS is my Palm USB cradle. A USB Bluetooth dongle
takes care of that with aplomb.

> From what you say I'm better off with the 512 or 1024 MB 8800GT (by XFX or
> EVGA). Which mobo would you recommend that suppports Quad and everything
> before it? How about a super cool case to support the kick from the power
> supply and video card?

Sure, but there are so many different cases out there. Personally, I
wish I had gone with my original choice, the Antec Nine Hundred, but I
got something that was about $40 less and does the job quite well, if a
tad nosier. (The Nine Hundred is nice because it uses 120 mm and bigger
fans, mine uses several 80 mm fans which are noisier.)

> Anything else you or anyone else can think of-throw it in. Is it worth
> buying a gaming rig from Ebay?

I have only bought a couple of odds and ends off of eBay and so don't
know about the quality of any complete systems you can get there.
However, if you're experienced with buying stuff on eBay then you know
what to look for to try to determine if a seller is honest.

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 1:53 pm
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Vernon: Here is what I found in a local computer store today:

Mobo: ASUS P5E $275.00
ASUS P5K-E $175.00
EVGA Nvidia Geforce 7801 SL1 Intel FSB 1333 $329.99
" " " 680i SL1 Intel Socket 775
$285.00

Video: ASUS EN8800GT $319.99
Memory: Corsair DDR2 2 GB XMS2 Pair $219.99

PSU: Ultra 750W XPro $189.99

Can you or anyone else tell me if these will make FSX "fly" realistically? I
still prefer XP Pro over Vista Premium or Ultimate-not sure about that yet.

Thanks as usual for all replies. newsiimer


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"Vernon Balbert" <vbalbert RemoveThis @gmail.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:v10Cj.2797$6H.2168@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net...
> On 3/12/2008 4:23 PM, newsiimmer went clickity clack on the keyboard and
> produced this interesting bit of text:
>> Thanks Vernon. I do however dispute the 64-bit OS because I understand
>> from research and friends that there is hardly any hardware or software
>> support for it- especially where 32-bit stuff is concerned.
>
> For my own equipment (and I have a bit here) the only thing that is not
> supported by a 64-bit OS is my Palm USB cradle. A USB Bluetooth dongle
> takes care of that with aplomb.
>
>> From what you say I'm better off with the 512 or 1024 MB 8800GT (by XFX
>> or EVGA). Which mobo would you recommend that suppports Quad and
>> everything before it? How about a super cool case to support the kick
>> from the power supply and video card?
>
> Sure, but there are so many different cases out there. Personally, I wish
> I had gone with my original choice, the Antec Nine Hundred, but I got
> something that was about $40 less and does the job quite well, if a tad
> nosier. (The Nine Hundred is nice because it uses 120 mm and bigger fans,
> mine uses several 80 mm fans which are noisier.)
>
>> Anything else you or anyone else can think of-throw it in. Is it worth
>> buying a gaming rig from Ebay?
>
> I have only bought a couple of odds and ends off of eBay and so don't know
> about the quality of any complete systems you can get there. However, if
> you're experienced with buying stuff on eBay then you know what to look
> for to try to determine if a seller is honest.
>
> --
> "Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering?"
> "Wuh, I think so, Brain, but burlap chafes me so."
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 7:14 pm
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On 3/13/2008 10:53 AM, newsiimmer went clickity clack on the keyboard
and produced this interesting bit of text:
> Vernon: Here is what I found in a local computer store today:
>
> Mobo: ASUS P5E $275.00
> ASUS P5K-E $175.00
> EVGA Nvidia Geforce 7801 SL1 Intel FSB 1333 $329.99
> " " " 680i SL1 Intel Socket 775
> $285.00
>
> Video: ASUS EN8800GT $319.99
> Memory: Corsair DDR2 2 GB XMS2 Pair $219.99
>
> PSU: Ultra 750W XPro $189.99
>
> Can you or anyone else tell me if these will make FSX "fly" realistically? I
> still prefer XP Pro over Vista Premium or Ultimate-not sure about that yet.
>
> Thanks as usual for all replies. newsiimer

I don't recommend the P5E with the nVidia video card as it supports
Crossfire and not SLI. Crossfire is what ATI uses and SLI is what
nVidia uses. If you ever decide to add a second video card you'll need
to take this into account. I recommend something in the ASUS P5N line
as this will support SLI. I'm rather fond of ASUS. I've had
motherboards from various manufacturers and ASUS has consistently had
the best. I found an ASUS P5N-D for about $160.
(http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?p=MB-P5N-D&c=pw) Not too shabby if you
ask me. (FWIW, I bought a replacement DVD burner from them just last
week and I was very satisfied with their service.)

I looked at a review of the power supply and while it's not perfect, it
seems to be a decent one to get. The only ding against it was the
efficiency. The tests showed an efficiency of 72-75% while the
literature states that it has about 80% efficiency. I wouldn't worry
too much about this.

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