Making faces in Oblivion is pretty tough.

It may be possible since some NPCs have even skin tones in all forms of
light, though to be honest it's not that many of them. Most of them are just
plain ugly, like Bethsoft just closed their eyes and made the faces without
caring much.
Tonight I'm going to try and perfect my character but I don't know how many
more hours I'm willing to spend on cosmetic appearance. The shape of his
face is to my liking, though. That took forever to make a decent looking
Breton. Now I wonder if I should have just played a Khajiit. No basis for
comparison except my girlfriend's cat.

> It's difficult if not impossible. Maybe there's a mod that cleans up
> the inconsistencies of the face-maker program, but I don't know of one
> myself. Skin shade, texture, even-ness and consistency is not its
> strong point, as you've noticed. I played with the sliders for hours,
> and just gave up. I usually don't zoom in for a lot of vanity closeup
> facial shots while playing anyway, so not a biggie to me. Although it
> was mildly fun creating a face or two from scratch, the last 3-4 chars
> I've made all resulted from the 'random' button... hehe. With patience
> and a steady finger on the mouse-clicker-thingy, you can end up with
> some interesting and not totally fugly faces.
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 >> Stay informed about: Making faces in Oblivion is pretty tough. 

On Jul 8, 10:48 pm, "Sand-Eating Glass-Crapper"
<s... RemoveThis @toglass.spammerseatfeces.net> wrote:
> It may be possible since some NPCs have even skin tones in all forms of
> light, though to be honest it's not that many of them. Most of them are just
> plain ugly, like Bethsoft just closed their eyes and made the faces without
> caring much.
> Tonight I'm going to try and perfect my character but I don't know how many
> more hours I'm willing to spend on cosmetic appearance. The shape of his
> face is to my liking, though. That took forever to make a decent looking
> Breton. Now I wonder if I should have just played a Khajiit. No basis for
> comparison except my girlfriend's cat.
>
>
>
> > It's difficult if not impossible. Maybe there's a mod that cleans up
> > the inconsistencies of the face-maker program, but I don't know of one
> > myself. Skin shade, texture, even-ness and consistency is not its
> > strong point, as you've noticed. I played with the sliders for hours,
> > and just gave up. I usually don't zoom in for a lot of vanity closeup
> > facial shots while playing anyway, so not a biggie to me. Although it
> > was mildly fun creating a face or two from scratch, the last 3-4 chars
> > I've made all resulted from the 'random' button... hehe. With patience
> > and a steady finger on the mouse-clicker-thingy, you can end up with
> > some interesting and not totally fugly faces.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

The face controls seem really awkward, especially the way they
interact. Change something you want to change, and it changes a lot
of other stuff from what you did like to what you don't. It is very
frustrating. Some of the options sets are lousy, too (all the Khajiit
look like they are slobs coming out of a windstorm). My daughter is
pretty good at the controls, and when I can I get her to spiffy up a
character for me. Alas, even if you get one you like, there is no way
to save the template.
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On Jul 9, 5:57 am, Flo 'Irian' Schaetz <i... RemoveThis @gmx.de> wrote:
> And thus spoke Sand-Eating Glass-Crapper...
>
> > I spent hours making a face I liked at the end of the sewers/tutorial, and
> > after about 2 days (literally, took me 2 days), I finally had a face I could
> > live with. But the skin tones are not right. I mean, in low light in the
> > dungeons, he looks fine. Like a real person. In his paper doll he looks fine
> > also. Even when facing the sun outside. But in the moonlight, or when he's
> > facing a certain direction, his face looks all splotchy, like someone took
> > that white powder make-up and just caked his face up. What gives? How do I
> > make his face all one tone? Or is it possible without mods?
>
> 1. Install the "Natural Faces" Mod.
>
> 2. Use the console to open the menu again outside the sewers, so you can
> modify your face there. Seehttp://www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Consoleon
> how to use the command "showracemenu" to edit your face outside the sewers.
>
> Flo

Thanks! I'll have to try this. One of the difficulties with setting
race in the sewers is that you have either poor light or bright
torchlight that distorts complexion. Being able to do this in
daylight would be nice. Not to mention being able to do it when you
wanted to spend time hassling with difficult controls instead of
wanting to spend time playing a game.
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And thus spoke DeAnn...

> Thanks! I'll have to try this. One of the difficulties with setting
> race in the sewers is that you have either poor light or bright
> torchlight that distorts complexion. Being able to do this in
> daylight would be nice.

Jup, very nice. There is also a nice page out there that has some rather
pretty faces which can simply installed into a savegame... I never tried
it, so I can't say what the results will be...

http://gloryinstinct.ugtech.net/

To use the .fg files, you can use Focon:
http://www.tessource.net/files/file.php?id=4158

Flo
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"Flo 'Irian' Schaetz" <iryan RemoveThis @gmx.de> wrote in message
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> And thus spoke DeAnn...
>
>> Thanks! I'll have to try this. One of the difficulties with setting
>> race in the sewers is that you have either poor light or bright
>> torchlight that distorts complexion. Being able to do this in
>> daylight would be nice.
>
> Jup, very nice. There is also a nice page out there that has some rather
> pretty faces which can simply installed into a savegame... I never tried
> it, so I can't say what the results will be...
>
> http://gloryinstinct.ugtech.net/
>
> To use the .fg files, you can use Focon:
> http://www.tessource.net/files/file.php?id=4158
>
> Flo

Been away for a while & what a cool thing to come back to.

Thanks 4 links. Faces really are very nice.

Had been using wrye bash ( http://wrye.ufrealms.net/ ) to import faces but
didn't know about this one. New faces + utility for the ol' Obliv.
toolbox.

thx

--Bruce

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"DeAnn" <DeAnn000 DeleteThis @gmail.com> skrev i en meddelelse
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> On Jul 8, 10:48 pm, "Sand-Eating Glass-Crapper"
> <s... DeleteThis @toglass.spammerseatfeces.net> wrote:
>> It may be possible since some NPCs have even skin
tones in all forms of
>> light, though to be honest it's not that many of
them. Most of them are just
>> plain ugly, like Bethsoft just closed their eyes
and made the faces without
>> caring much.
>> Tonight I'm going to try and perfect my character
but I don't know how many
>> more hours I'm willing to spend on cosmetic
appearance. The shape of his
>> face is to my liking, though. That took forever to
make a decent looking
>> Breton. Now I wonder if I should have just played
a Khajiit. No basis for
>> comparison except my girlfriend's cat.
>>
>>
>>
>> > It's difficult if not impossible. Maybe there's
a mod that cleans up
>> > the inconsistencies of the face-maker program,
but I don't know of one
>> > myself. Skin shade, texture, even-ness and
consistency is not its
>> > strong point, as you've noticed. I played with
the sliders for hours,
>> > and just gave up. I usually don't zoom in for a
lot of vanity closeup
>> > facial shots while playing anyway, so not a
biggie to me. Although it
>> > was mildly fun creating a face or two from
scratch, the last 3-4 chars
>> > I've made all resulted from the 'random'
button... hehe. With patience
>> > and a steady finger on the mouse-clicker-thingy,
you can end up with
>> > some interesting and not totally fugly faces.-
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>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> The face controls seem really awkward, especially
the way they
> interact. Change something you want to change, and
it changes a lot
> of other stuff from what you did like to what you
don't. It is very
> frustrating. Some of the options sets are lousy,
too (all the Khajiit
> look like they are slobs coming out of a
windstorm). My daughter is
> pretty good at the controls, and when I can I get
her to spiffy up a
> character for me. Alas, even if you get one you
like, there is no way
> to save the template.
>
Oh yes, there is. "bash" lets you import faces from
other savegames. Keep your
template" face in a savegame and store it for later
use.

merlin
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On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 23:43:23 GMT, "Sand-Eating Glass-Crapper"
<sand.TakeThisOut@toglass.spammerseatfeces.net> wrote:

>I spent hours making a face I liked at the end of the sewers/tutorial, and
>after about 2 days (literally, took me 2 days), I finally had a face I could
>live with. But the skin tones are not right. I mean, in low light in the
>dungeons, he looks fine. Like a real person. In his paper doll he looks fine
>also. Even when facing the sun outside. But in the moonlight, or when he's
>facing a certain direction, his face looks all splotchy, like someone took
>that white powder make-up and just caked his face up. What gives? How do I
>make his face all one tone? Or is it possible without mods?
>

Turn off Player shadows. This seems to result in pixilation and lower
facial texture images. Also add the natural faces mod.
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