My Mage's spells get resisted

Justin Thompson wrote:
> Look here - lots of info
>
> http://www.wowwiki.com/Resist

I have tried to observe more closely, and the specific problem is always
(when it does occur - it isn't too frequent) that the spell causes no
damage to the target, rather than reduced damage. Further, I have almost
exclusivly fought targets of a level close to my character's, so it
isn't a question of a level 17 Mage trying to Fireball a level 23 monster.

In light of this, am I correct in assuming that if I increase my spell
hit change, e.g. by taking the Elemental Precision Talent, then I can
reduce the occurence of this?


Secondly, is it worth it? Based on what I've read, my base spell hit
change against a level-equivalent mob is 96%, so with 3 points in
Elemental Precision, my Fire and Frost spells go from a hit chance of
96% and to 99%, which increases my damage output by only 3.125%. Is that
worth it? Even if it also gives me 3% more effective mana...?

Looking at the table in this text
< http://www.wowwiki.com/Spell_hit#How_spell_hit_chance_is_calculated >
it also looks as if it is very stupid to go up against a mob 3+ levels
higher than my Mage, ever, because my damage output starts getting
nerfed via the reduced spell hit chance.

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In <481f80d0$0$15885$edfadb0f@dtext01.news.tele.dk> Peter Knutsen <peter RemoveThis @sagatafl.invalid> writes:

> Justin Thompson wrote:
> > Look here - lots of info
> >
> > http://www.wowwiki.com/Resist

> I have tried to observe more closely, and the specific problem is always
> (when it does occur - it isn't too frequent) that the spell causes no
> damage to the target, rather than reduced damage.

This is a "full resist".

> In light of this, am I correct in assuming that if I increase my spell
> hit change, e.g. by taking the Elemental Precision Talent, then I can
> reduce the occurence of this?

Yes. You can also get gear with +spell hit.

> change against a level-equivalent mob is 96%, so with 3 points in
> Elemental Precision, my Fire and Frost spells go from a hit chance of
> 96% and to 99%, which increases my damage output by only 3.125%. Is that
> worth it? Even if it also gives me 3% more effective mana...?

Maximizing your spell hit is the best thing you can do to increase
your dps, so yes, it is worth it.

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On Mon, 05 May 2008 23:49:12 +0200, Peter Knutsen <peter.TakeThisOut@sagatafl.invalid>
wrote:

>Justin Thompson wrote:
>> Look here - lots of info
>>
>> http://www.wowwiki.com/Resist
>
>I have tried to observe more closely, and the specific problem is always
>(when it does occur - it isn't too frequent) that the spell causes no
>damage to the target, rather than reduced damage. Further, I have almost
>exclusivly fought targets of a level close to my character's, so it
>isn't a question of a level 17 Mage trying to Fireball a level 23 monster.
>
>In light of this, am I correct in assuming that if I increase my spell
>hit change, e.g. by taking the Elemental Precision Talent, then I can
>reduce the occurence of this?

Yep, that's correct.

>Secondly, is it worth it? Based on what I've read, my base spell hit
>change against a level-equivalent mob is 96%, so with 3 points in
>Elemental Precision, my Fire and Frost spells go from a hit chance of
>96% and to 99%, which increases my damage output by only 3.125%. Is that
>worth it? Even if it also gives me 3% more effective mana...?

Hmm, well, depends if you consider it worth it or not. Personally I do; I
always aim to max my hitchance vs +1 or +2 lvl mobs asap, I don't bother
with +3 though, as it's a large amount of hit needed and I rarely fight
mobs that much higher than myself. I certainly like having the highest hit
chance possible - just imagine how annoying it is when you use a 2-3 minute
cooldown on a spell and bam, resist. That happens all too often for my
liking!

>Looking at the table in this text
>< http://www.wowwiki.com/Spell_hit#How_spell_hit_chance_is_calculated >
>it also looks as if it is very stupid to go up against a mob 3+ levels
>higher than my Mage, ever, because my damage output starts getting
>nerfed via the reduced spell hit chance.

Yep. Raid bosses (lvl ??) act as +3 level, so you really want to work on
+hit if you ever intend to raid, but my logic with casters (as a
non-raider) is to max my hit chance vs +1/+2 lvl mobs and just don't fight
anything higher. Obviously while levelling you can't even do that on some
classes as there's almost no +hit gear below Outland, but talents are handy
at least, when you can reach them.
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and +hit helps leveling too.. fewer mobs resist frost nova ..very important specially for frost mage like myself ..

I'm lvl 40 now and I cant remember the last time some mob resisted my nova during the "gathering"
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John Gordon wrote:
> In <481f80d0$0$15885$edfadb0f@dtext01.news.tele.dk> Peter Knutsen <peter.RemoveThis@sagatafl.invalid> writes:
>>change against a level-equivalent mob is 96%, so with 3 points in
>>Elemental Precision, my Fire and Frost spells go from a hit chance of
>>96% and to 99%, which increases my damage output by only 3.125%. Is that
>>worth it? Even if it also gives me 3% more effective mana...?
>
> Maximizing your spell hit is the best thing you can do to increase
> your dps, so yes, it is worth it.

On second thought, +1% DPS per Talent Point probably *is* worth it,
especially when each TP *also* gets me -1% mana cost.

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