League of Extraordinary Gentlemen: 1980s

Human Liquid Balloon wrote:

> Then you're not familiar with Moore's The League... half of them were
> "villains".

I'm quite familiar with it, but there's no way to MAKE the Terminator
work with you the way they got Hyde to, and the way they got the
Invisible Man to for a while. He'll just Terminate anyone in his path.
And he's GOOD at that. (I suspect he'd trash the entire city of New
York trying to kill of Maclane and end up screwed by some MacGyver trick)


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David Johnston wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 01:02:41 GMT, Sea Wasp
> <seaobviouswasp DeleteThis @sgeobviousinc.com> wrote:
>
>
>> My candidates:
>>
>> Bond. JAMES Bond.
>> Dirk Pitt (Clive Cussler's long-lived hero from Raise the Titanic!
>>et. al.)
>
>
> Bond and Dirk Pitt are a bit redundant.

But they work so well together! (Night Probe)


>
>
>> MacGyver
>> Jaime Sommers (The Bionic Woman; Movie Series existed in the 80s, and
>>it was clear that she spent most of her time away from Stevie)
>> Airwolf (Like the Nautilus, it's really the star of the show)
>> John MacLane (Die Hard)
>> Jack Burton (Big Trouble in Little China)
>>
>> If you want Arnie in there, I recommend "Dutch" Schaeffer (Predator)
>>or John Matrix (Commando); you CANNOT use the Terminator, as he was a
>>VILLAIN in the 1980s.
>
>
> Whether a character is a hero or a villain hardly matters. Most of
> the members of the LEOG were in fact villains. Mr. Hyde, Griffin and
> Nemo were all criminals, and Hyde and Griffin were insane.

The Terminator cannot be reasoned with. It has a mission that it must
carry out, and it'll kill everyone who tries to interfere with that
mission. This makes it singularly unsuited for the Hyde or Griffin
approach.


> If you really wanted to be faithful to the concept you could include
> characters like Jaws.
>

Jaws would be great. He could serve a sort of Hyde slot. Except he's
a lot more personable.

No, WAIT! The Incredible Hulk -- TV series! It ran up through 1982
and had several movies subsequent to that. Dr. David Banner for the
League!!!

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Oh no! It's Bradd W. Szonye!
> Bruce Wayne (Batman) looks like a great archetypal choice for a gadgets
> guy with strong investigative skills. Also, the Bat offers an Alan Moore
> homage element; Moore re-defined the character in the 80s.

Huh?

Apart from The Killing Joke I can't even think of anything centered on
Batman that Moore *wrote*, much less anything that redefined the
character.
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"Jeff Heikkinen" <no.way RemoveThis @jose.org> wrote :
> Oh no! It's Bradd W. Szonye!
> > Bruce Wayne (Batman) looks like a great archetypal choice for a gadgets
> > guy with strong investigative skills. Also, the Bat offers an Alan Moore
> > homage element; Moore re-defined the character in the 80s.
>
> Huh?
>
> Apart from The Killing Joke I can't even think of anything centered on
> Batman that Moore *wrote*, much less anything that redefined the
> character.

Batman annual #11

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Jeff Heikkinen <no.way.DeleteThis@jose.org> wrote:
> Oh no! It's Bradd W. Szonye!
>> Bruce Wayne (Batman) looks like a great archetypal choice for a gadgets
>> guy with strong investigative skills. Also, the Bat offers an Alan Moore
>> homage element; Moore re-defined the character in the 80s.
>
> Huh?
>
> Apart from The Killing Joke I can't even think of anything centered on
> Batman that Moore *wrote*, much less anything that redefined the
> character.

For some reason, I got Moore and Miller confused. Mea culpa.
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Oh no! It's David Meadows!
> "Jeff Heikkinen" <no.way.DeleteThis@jose.org> wrote :
> > Oh no! It's Bradd W. Szonye!
> > > Bruce Wayne (Batman) looks like a great archetypal choice for a gadgets
> > > guy with strong investigative skills. Also, the Bat offers an Alan Moore
> > > homage element; Moore re-defined the character in the 80s.
> >
> > Huh?
> >
> > Apart from The Killing Joke I can't even think of anything centered on
> > Batman that Moore *wrote*, much less anything that redefined the
> > character.
>
> Batman annual #11

Okay, good point. (I've got to get George Freeman to sign my copy of
that or something - his wife plays in my D&D group and we occasionally
play at their place.) But if that redefined a character, it was
Clayface, not Batman!
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Oh no! It's Bradd W. Szonye!
> Jeff Heikkinen <no.way DeleteThis @jose.org> wrote:
> > Oh no! It's Bradd W. Szonye!
> >> Bruce Wayne (Batman) looks like a great archetypal choice for a gadgets
> >> guy with strong investigative skills. Also, the Bat offers an Alan Moore
> >> homage element; Moore re-defined the character in the 80s.
> >
> > Huh?
> >
> > Apart from The Killing Joke I can't even think of anything centered on
> > Batman that Moore *wrote*, much less anything that redefined the
> > character.
>
> For some reason, I got Moore and Miller confused. Mea culpa.

You know, it took about ten minutes after I posted for me to realize
that was probably what had happened. NP.
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Such an interesting topic:

My 1980's league...

Jack Burton
Remo Williams
James Bond
MacGyver
Jaime Sommers
Rambo
John Mclean
Jean Claud Van Damn (maybe his character from Cyborg?)
Indiana Jones

Loaded with some good action characters, but perhaps a tad shy on the
intellect. Guess Macgyver will have to carry that burden.

Ryan S. Johnson
Guild of Blades Publishing Group
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Just jumping in here, but.............doesn't anybody read anymore?
Virtually every example is from tv or movies.

Also, unless I'm missing my guess (I've never read the LoEG series),
the whole concept is that most of these characters are anti-heroes or
out-and-out villains. At most, there should be TWO out-and-out heroes
involved, and the others should outnumber them by at least two to one
and possibly three to one.

So I'm going to modify the rules a little. To be part of this LoEG:

The character must have appeared in literature BEFORE s/he appeared in
film, but this can be any form of literature: book, short story,
play, comic book.

The character must have at least one original story produced/published
during the 1980s. For the purposes of this rule, an adaptation of a
book for the screen counts as an original story, but a remake of an
existing film does not (the James Bond movies count, but a remake of
Dracula doesn't).

Two heroes, four anti-heroes or villains.

And my team:

James Bond (his first novel predates the first movie by nine years, so
he qualifies)

V.I Warshawski

Diva, Queen of the Banshees (from the play, "Starmites"--anti-hero)

John Rambo ("First Blood" was written a decade before the movie came
out--ant-hero)

Rincewind (from Terry Pratchett's "Discworld" series--anti-hero)

Darkseid (Villain. I know he was first created in the 70s, but he
started really becoming a Force in the DC universe in the 80s.
However, for the purposes of character balance, he has to be seriously
depowered).

We could use another anti-hero to provide the cash. I wanted to use
John Hammond from Jurassic Park, but the novel was published in 1990.

Ideas?
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Hum, good points on all counts..

The League was a bit anti-social..

Why would they want to save the planet? Other than to save their own
asses?

Agreed about them being for the most part atleast from a human society,
are anti-heros.

Quartermain = Environmentalist or rugged indivualist, who cares little
for human tech, living on top of each other like rats human society.
Harkness = even if she does not seem to see humans as animals to be fed
on, she is likely anti-social or atleast solitary?
Dorian Grey = rich dilitant.. Cares for little but pleasure.
Nemo = Hates the current world as it is, into high tech stuff, but
seperates himself and friends from normal human sick society.

Mike


"Ryan S. Johnson" wrote:
>
> Such an interesting topic:
>
> My 1980's league...
>
> Jack Burton
> Remo Williams
> James Bond
> MacGyver
> Jaime Sommers
> Rambo
> John Mclean
> Jean Claud Van Damn (maybe his character from Cyborg?)
> Indiana Jones
>
> Loaded with some good action characters, but perhaps a tad shy on the
> intellect. Guess Macgyver will have to carry that burden.
>
> Ryan S. Johnson
> Guild of Blades Publishing Group
> http://www.guildofblades.com



Jim Longo wrote:
>
> Just jumping in here, but.............doesn't anybody read anymore?
> Virtually every example is from tv or movies.
>
> Also, unless I'm missing my guess (I've never read the LoEG series),
> the whole concept is that most of these characters are anti-heroes or
> out-and-out villains. At most, there should be TWO out-and-out heroes
> involved, and the others should outnumber them by at least two to one
> and possibly three to one.
>
> So I'm going to modify the rules a little. To be part of this LoEG:
>
> The character must have appeared in literature BEFORE s/he appeared in
> film, but this can be any form of literature: book, short story,
> play, comic book.
>
> The character must have at least one original story produced/published
> during the 1980s. For the purposes of this rule, an adaptation of a
> book for the screen counts as an original story, but a remake of an
> existing film does not (the James Bond movies count, but a remake of
> Dracula doesn't).
>
> Two heroes, four anti-heroes or villains.
>
> And my team:
>
> James Bond (his first novel predates the first movie by nine years, so
> he qualifies)
>
> V.I Warshawski
>
> Diva, Queen of the Banshees (from the play, "Starmites"--anti-hero)
>
> John Rambo ("First Blood" was written a decade before the movie came
> out--ant-hero)
>
> Rincewind (from Terry Pratchett's "Discworld" series--anti-hero)
>
> Darkseid (Villain. I know he was first created in the 70s, but he
> started really becoming a Force in the DC universe in the 80s.
> However, for the purposes of character balance, he has to be seriously
> depowered).
>
> We could use another anti-hero to provide the cash. I wanted to use
> John Hammond from Jurassic Park, but the novel was published in 1990.
>
> Ideas?
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