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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 9:56 pm
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I've heard horror stories like this, but i've always been fine. Cable
connection, fast computer, all set - but the last few days i've been
tooling around in norrath again and i go linkdead when i zone. What
gives? Known issue? Hopefully with a known fix (that someone could
point me toward?).
Presently I can't even log in without going LD between character
select and the actual game. Gonna start messing around with my
firewall (running winXP pro, like a fewl). The 5 minutes of waiting
between the LD and when i can resume playing = enough to make me quit
another year or two.
We, the players, should organize and become vocal so that no new
players will take up a sony game until stupid, careless bugs/issues
are fixed/resolved. I played for 5 years without this problem, so they
clearly changed something (i haven't touched my settings from the last
time i played, without issue, last summer). They really do focus their
efforts on new content to try to pull in new players (or is it to
appease the powergamer crowd?), believing that having happy casual
players is (fixing bugs, improving things that are broken) the least
lucrative business model. Am i wrong in that perception? Because if
not, we should do that, we should make it clear to potential new
players that sony doesn't know how to administrate an mmo, and let
sony see we're doing that. Maybe that would work. Guess we'd have to
convince them that we happy, older players would pull in people via
word of mouth once we were satisfied with the quality of the game.
Or is it too late for that? No one really plays eq, huh?
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c <smalltalkingchicken DeleteThis @gmail.com> writes:
> I've heard horror stories like this, but i've always been fine. Cable
> connection, fast computer, all set - but the last few days i've been
> tooling around in norrath again and i go linkdead when i zone. What
> gives? Known issue? Hopefully with a known fix (that someone could
> point me toward?).
>
> Presently I can't even log in without going LD between character
> select and the actual game. Gonna start messing around with my
> firewall (running winXP pro, like a fewl). The 5 minutes of waiting
> between the LD and when i can resume playing = enough to make me quit
> another year or two.
This sounds like your character files have gotten corrupted. Another
possibility is the zone data files are corrupted for the zones those
characters are trying to zone into (either from another zone or from
character select). Try moving some or all of those files out of your
Everquest folder, then do a full file check to recreate any of those
files (such as the default maps) that are required, and see if the
characters are able to zone in. If that works, try to narrow down
which file was causing the problem, and then which part of that file.
The character files are Yourcharactername_Servername.ini and
UI_Yourcharactername_Servername.ini. The most likely zone files to
cause trouble are the maps.
I do get the feeling that there've been a lot of posts like yours
recently. I wonder if there's a new bug that's causing files to
become corrupted.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 1:56 am
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On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 03:46:07 GMT, "Lief" <ask.me.for RemoveThis @it.com> wrote:
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>"c" <smalltalkingchicken RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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>> Or is it too late for that? No one really plays eq, huh?
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>200,000 players at the moment. Not WoW level of players, but then not
>everyone has a brain and they prefer 'easy' games.
>
I'm curious as to why you feel a need to bash other games. If you
like EQ, and you're having a good time playing it, why the need to
piss on non-EQ players? Do you really think that playing EQ grants
you some sort of superiority? >> Stay informed about: LD constantly? I can't play so i'll start a revolution |
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 6:43 am
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On Aug 9, 8:22 am, "Lief" <ask.me.....DeleteThis@it.com> wrote:
> "murdocj" <t....DeleteThis@mirque.delete.this.com> wrote in message
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> > On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 03:46:07 GMT, "Lief" <ask.me.....DeleteThis@it.com> wrote:
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> > >"c" <smalltalkingchic....DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > >news:1186621218.118065.307150@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> > >> Or is it too late for that? No one really plays eq, huh?
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> > >200,000 players at the moment. Not WoW level of players, but then not
> > >everyone has a brain and they prefer 'easy' games.
>
> > I'm curious as to why you feel a need to bash other games. If you
> > like EQ, and you're having a good time playing it, why the need to
> > piss on non-EQ players? Do you really think that playing EQ grants
> > you some sort of superiority?
>
> It's called having an opinion. I played WoW, I thought it sucked, and took
> little skill compared to EQ.
>
> As with all things, opinions vary.
Having an opinion is great. Rehashing the same stupid bashing ("I
have a brain") is just tired. It's an opinion, it's just an
unoriginal one. My return to EQ has been severly dampened by the
simple fact that it seems like most of the people still playing are
simply elitist dicks. There are plenty of friendly people, but so
many are so eager to just jump all over people and attempt to appear
superior.
Look at this newsgroup. Near-flatline the entire time I've been
reading it, until an opportunity arises to jerk people around. Now
we've got dozens of posts in a couple of days. Most calling other
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 6:50 am
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On Aug 8, 10:46 pm, "Lief" <ask.me.... RemoveThis @it.com> wrote:
> "c" <smalltalkingchic... RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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> > Or is it too late for that? No one really plays eq, huh?
>
> 200,000 players at the moment. Not WoW level of players, but then not
> everyone has a brain and they prefer 'easy' games.
One more tiny thing:
People didn't leave EQ because it was hard. They left because it was
old and new games with big potential were coming out and (from what
I've read) GoD sucked complete ass.
People don't avoid EQ because it's hard. They avoid it because it's
old and inaccessible. I returned after being gone since Luclin and I
feel completely locked out of the game. The complete derth of low
level people (low level as in <30, not <70) is killer. It means the
only way to start playing is to buy some plat, buy some skinspikes,
beg for a temp and go solo for 3 months. Which is mindnumbingly
boring and not at all in the spirit of EQ. There are no groups at any
level I've been at since returning unless you know people already.
Not because you're too lazy to form a group, because there's literally
NO-ONE within 10 levels of you that isn't in trader mode in the
bazaar.
The only thing keeping me mildly interested is the fact that I know
one person who plays, so I have someone to play with. I really miss
the fun I had in this game in the past, and I'm sure I could have that
fun again if I bought a level 75 character. But that's not something
I want to do.
It's not "difficulty." It's barrier to entry. If it was difficulty,
people wouldn't play the hundreds of console games that require more
"skill" than MMOs. >> Stay informed about: LD constantly? I can't play so i'll start a revolution |
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 6:55 am
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"Lief" <ask.me.for.TakeThisOut@it.com> wrote in message
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> "c" <smalltalkingchicken.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1186621218.118065.307150@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>> Or is it too late for that? No one really plays eq, huh?
>
> 200,000 players at the moment. Not WoW level of players, but then not
> everyone has a brain and they prefer 'easy' games.
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>
Try raiding some of the BC content and come back and tell us how easy it
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 8:28 am
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On Aug 9, 10:03 am, "Lief" <ask.me.... RemoveThis @it.com> wrote:
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> Yes, due to it's age it is not exactly noobie friendly, but there are still
> plenty of guilds out there who would be more than likely happy to group with
> you etc. Really, you do need a guild if you are a lowbie in EQ now, or you
> stand no chance.
This is the barrier I'm harping on.
> Why did you sell your character? 
Rent. My early 20s were "starvation years". I sold a lot of things I
would really like to still own. The person I'm playing with now is
actually the person I sold my account to. I contacted him and asked
if I could buy it back. His brother had it and was being stubborn, so
the guy is now giving me a hand starting up and leveling his multi-box
characters with me.
>
> > It's not "difficulty." It's barrier to entry. If it was difficulty,
> > people wouldn't play the hundreds of console games that require more
> > "skill" than MMOs.
>
> All of what you said still doesnt change the fact it IS more difficult than
> any other MMORPG (possible exception vanguard, I haven't played that for
> more than an hour).
When you say "Not WoW level of players, but then not everyone has a
brain and they prefer 'easy' games" you're saying people don't play EQ
because they think it's hard. I'm saying people don't play EQ because
it's an old game that is infinitely less accessible at this point than
newer games. That's why I went on about all that.
I guess that's the opinion thing. I don't think EQ is the hardest MMO
I've played. I don't equate "hard" with "tedious." I don't think EQ
is purely tedious (I haven't really seen an MMO that lacked some
tedium), but it seems like most things that make it "difficult" are
just things that create tedium.
Honest question: What makes EQ more difficult than other games? Is
soloability equal to ease? Does a harsh death penalty make a game
difficult?
I didn't really feel any MMO I've played was all that difficult.
Maybe it's just because difficulty and skill are pretty vague when it
comes to video games in general and MMOs in particular. Some people
say twitch = skill, some say twitch is kid-stuff. The main skill I
see in MMOs is just the ability to corral a large group of people and
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"Vladesch" <nobody.RemoveThis@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> > "c" <smalltalkingchicken.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> >> Or is it too late for that? No one really plays eq, huh?
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> > 200,000 players at the moment. Not WoW level of players, but then not
> > everyone has a brain and they prefer 'easy' games.
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> >
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> Try raiding some of the BC content and come back and tell us how easy it
> was.
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"murdocj" <temp.TakeThisOut@mirque.delete.this.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 03:46:07 GMT, "Lief" <ask.me.for.TakeThisOut@it.com> wrote:
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> >"c" <smalltalkingchicken.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> >> Or is it too late for that? No one really plays eq, huh?
> >
> >200,000 players at the moment. Not WoW level of players, but then not
> >everyone has a brain and they prefer 'easy' games.
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>
> I'm curious as to why you feel a need to bash other games. If you
> like EQ, and you're having a good time playing it, why the need to
> piss on non-EQ players? Do you really think that playing EQ grants
> you some sort of superiority?
It's called having an opinion. I played WoW, I thought it sucked, and took
little skill compared to EQ.
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"Eric D. Braden" <bradenericd.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Aug 8, 10:46 pm, "Lief" <ask.me.....TakeThisOut@it.com> wrote:
> > "c" <smalltalkingchic....TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >
> > news:1186621218.118065.307150@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > > Or is it too late for that? No one really plays eq, huh?
> >
> > 200,000 players at the moment. Not WoW level of players, but then not
> > everyone has a brain and they prefer 'easy' games.
>
> One more tiny thing:
>
> People didn't leave EQ because it was hard. They left because it was
> old and new games with big potential were coming out and (from what
> I've read) GoD sucked complete ass.
Yep, but then EQ was the original game of it's type, and it is now what, 8
years old?
GoD is a great expansion imo
> People don't avoid EQ because it's hard. They avoid it because it's
> old and inaccessible. I returned after being gone since Luclin and I
> feel completely locked out of the game. The complete derth of low
> level people (low level as in <30, not <70) is killer. It means the
> only way to start playing is to buy some plat, buy some skinspikes,
> beg for a temp and go solo for 3 months. Which is mindnumbingly
> boring and not at all in the spirit of EQ. There are no groups at any
> level I've been at since returning unless you know people already.
> Not because you're too lazy to form a group, because there's literally
> NO-ONE within 10 levels of you that isn't in trader mode in the
> bazaar.
Yes, due to it's age it is not exactly noobie friendly, but there are still
plenty of guilds out there who would be more than likely happy to group with
you etc. Really, you do need a guild if you are a lowbie in EQ now, or you
stand no chance.
> The only thing keeping me mildly interested is the fact that I know
> one person who plays, so I have someone to play with. I really miss
> the fun I had in this game in the past, and I'm sure I could have that
> fun again if I bought a level 75 character. But that's not something
> I want to do.
Why did you sell your character?
> It's not "difficulty." It's barrier to entry. If it was difficulty,
> people wouldn't play the hundreds of console games that require more
> "skill" than MMOs.
All of what you said still doesnt change the fact it IS more difficult than
any other MMORPG (possible exception vanguard, I haven't played that for
more than an hour).
My g/f just started playing eq, has a level 9 mage, and is loving it, of
course she has me to help her learn how to play, but, that isn't something
unique. Any other newbie could just as easily ask for help in one of the
general channels or find a guild with helpful members.
I dont see the barrier you are harping on about.
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On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 15:03:47 GMT, "Lief" <ask.me.for.TakeThisOut@it.com> wrote:
]Yes, due to it's age it is not exactly noobie friendly, but there are still
]plenty of guilds out there who would be more than likely happy to group with
]you etc. Really, you do need a guild if you are a lowbie in EQ now, or you
]stand no chance.
Really ? I got a ranger to 40th, with no guild help. I didn't even
find out temperance was for low level toons until I had played
almost a year. Didn't have the buff potions from the pok merchant
either.
When I bought the Evolution package deal, there was a book in it
that explained the interface, the background storry, etc.
As for the game, it isn't lal that hard to learn how to play.
Tactics took me a while, but I found a number of guides online on
tactics.
JimP.
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c wrote:
> Or is it too late for that? No one really plays eq, huh?
More people play EQ than any other Sony MMORPG.
Have you tried removing the contents of .../Sony/Everquest/userdata?
For now, just move it somewhere else, but give that a try.
As a side issue, although I found it hard to believe, replacing my ADSL
router a year or so back cleared up all my unexplained LD issues.
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"Eric D. Braden" <bradenericd RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Honest question: What makes EQ more difficult than other games? Is
> soloability equal to ease? Does a harsh death penalty make a game
> difficult?
Not being hand fed the entire way, learning your class / others classes and
what they can do, learning what mobs do, learning how to raid, learning raid
roles, co-ordinating large raids which require more than just TANK / DPS /
HEAL etc...
> I didn't really feel any MMO I've played was all that difficult.
> Maybe it's just because difficulty and skill are pretty vague when it
> comes to video games in general and MMOs in particular. Some people
> say twitch = skill, some say twitch is kid-stuff. The main skill I
> see in MMOs is just the ability to corral a large group of people and
> get them to hit the right buttons at the right time.
Heh, twitch is just reaction's, you can't learn that, EQ requires some
twitch but alot of knowledge, knowing what to do and when, doing something
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