Kaymakli Nightmares vs merged (LSJ)

External Since: Jan 17, 2008 Posts: 4

Notice that Kaymakli doesn't count how many cards have been sent back
to the crypt from the uncontrolled region, but how many were shuffled
in.
Are the cards composing a merged vampire still considered as "one"
card when they aren't any more in the uncontrolled region, but on
their way to be shuffled in the crypt ?

External Since: Jun 18, 2006 Posts: 176

LSJ wrote:
> andrea.la.malfa RemoveThis @infinito.it wrote:
>> On Jan 18, 12:35 pm, LSJ <vtes... RemoveThis @white-wolf.com> wrote:
>>> Wookie813 wrote:
>>>> On Jan 17, 8:49 pm, LSJ <vtes... RemoveThis @white-wolf.com> wrote:
>>>>> Wookie813 wrote:
>>>>>> Why am I wrong?
>>>>> A vampire with a Discipline card is one vampire, not two halves.
>>>>> And yet, only the vampire goes to the crypt from KN.
>>>> Right, that I get. That makes perfect sense. What doesn't make sense
>>>> to me is that, per the rulebook, a merged vampire is to be considered
>>>> one card, EXCEPT when it's targeted by Kaymakli Nightmares. Why
>>>> doesn't KN see the merged vampire as one card and put it back into the
>>>> crypt, whereupon it becomes two cards again?
>>> Ah, OK. Sure. REVERSAL: Kaymakli Nightmares send both cards to the
>>> crypt.
>>
>> But then just 1 card back to uncontrolled right?
>> Andrea
>
> Right, since it just counts as 1.

BUUUT...Kaymakli doesn't target *vampires*. It targets *crypt cards*. A
merged vampire has 2 crypt cards. Kaymakli doesn't move 'the vampire' to
it's owner's crypt. It moves all crypt cards. Of which there are two...

The merging rules don't say anything about them counting as one crypt
card. Only that they count as one vampire.

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