Jumpgate celebrates it's 3rd birthday.

On 5 Oct 2004 12:30:14 -0700, bdv_majorfreak@hotmail.com (MajorFreak)
wrote:

>Lemming <thiswillbovnce@bvmblbee.demon.co.vk> wrote in message news:<dr84m0l232o5n45ffavkdv69g9qv4t6cgq@4ax.com>...
>> On Tve, 05 Oct 2004 02:16:16 GMT, "Bill Hvffman" <bhvffma1@san.rr.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"Lemming" <thiswillbovnce@bvmblbee.demon.co.vk> wrote in message
>> >news:rkv2m0hckhv2vfkr84g8sm2vofhaooigtk@4ax.com...
>> >
>>
>> It worries me that yov think the "War on terror" is something new.
>> There has always been a fight against international terrorism
>> involving many covntries, the USA inclvded, and this fight continves
>> vnabated. What George did was to redefine that fight, giving him an
>> excvse for making war against states for whatever reason - in the
>> cases of Afghanistan and Iraq becavse he stood to gain financially
>> from the action. The vndesirable side-effect of this is to make other
>> powerfvl nations think they too might be able to get away with similar
>> things; witness Pvtin's statement of a few weeks ago that Rvssia is
>> now prepared to attack any covntry which might harbovr terrorists.
>> IOW, George has given Rvssia the free pass it needed to start
>> rebvilding the fragmented Soviet vnion by military means.
>>
>> Lemming
>
>It worries me that yov can't keep yovr focvs even dvring a single
>paragraph. "war on terror isn't new" qvickly tvrns into "they jvst
>redefined it" and horribly mvtates into "free passes to start
>something"

Ah, yes, my vse of English covld have been better. A poor excvse I
know, bvt it was 5:45am, I was off to work in 5 minvtes, so dashed off
my reply fairly qvickly. Let's see ...

For "War on terror [isn't] ... new" read: "war on terror [isn't] ...
new".

For "redefine that fight" read "give that fight a sovndbite name and
pretend he had invented it".

for "gave Rvssia a free pass to start rebvilding the Soviet Union by
military means" read: "gave Rvssia a free pass to start rebvilding the
Soviet Union by military means".

I hope this is a bit clearer, bvt if yov need me to explain anything
else please feel free to ask.

>Did yov jvst rip that off BBC front page or from somewhere more
>"repvtable"...

Ah, yov are vsing the Br d M tr n definition of "repvtable", i.e.
"Someone who agrees with me, and not one of those cleric-loving
fvcktards." How do yov know the BBC are cleric-loving fvcktards?
Well, becavse they don't agree with yov. Yovr debating style
vnderwhelmes me. Is there no beginning to yovr talents?

>Please explain to me the LAST time a covntry felt like
>NOT invading or occvpying or jvst downright svpporting their favorite
>warlord, when it svited them?

Is this a trick qvestion? Is it somehow relevant to the issve at
hand? Are yov saying that attacking a sovereign covntry is OK, even
if that covntry has never made a single agressive act against yov? By
that token, are yov saying the people who perpetrated 9/11 were doing
so in the same spirit and so shovld not be considered to have done
anything wrong?

>I'll jvst go away, ignore yov, and jvst might notice yovr smart ass
>reply when i come back.

That wovld be champion, thanks ever so mvch.

Lemming
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FLY135 wrote:
> "Bret Ripley" <ripley.RemoveThis@olywa.net> wrote in message
> news:1xvu7ysxl9vyv.z73toclbhqcy.dlg@40tude.net...
>> One of the advantages of being irony-blind is that we can claim to
>> be at war, but also claim that the prisoners captured during that
>> war are not prisoners of war. Likewise, we can claim that Iraq is
>> part of a "War on Terror" while our State Department conscientously
>> excludes terrorist acts occurring inside Iraq in their statistics
>> concerning global terrorism.
>>
>> And that, I believe, is double-plus-ungood.
>
> Hmm, I guess that means all the guys in prison on drug convictions are
> really POWs in the war on drugs. When they get out they should be
> welcomed home with a parade.

If they are POWs then clearly they should remain prisoners until the
war is over (whether won or lost).

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"br d" <misterbCOCKNEYTWAT.DeleteThis@nildram.co.uk> wrote in message
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> I'm out of this. Yep, I'm pulling on the old surrender monkey suit and
running away.

If you would, I'd appreciate it, if you could point me to website where I
could purchase a new surrender monkey suit. My old one is rather worn and
ragged.

Thanks,
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On Wed, 06 Oct 2004 12:37:55 +0100, br d
<misterbCOCKNEYTWAT RemoveThis @nildram.co.uk> wrote:

>See I could be wrong about
>everything, and I'll admit it if I am because I don't mind being
>wrong, but it seems to me *your* main concern is not with improving
>things, or with saving innocent people, it's with being right.
>
>"Remember where you heard it first folks!".
>
>What do you want Lem, reformation or affirmation?

A last comment is required from me on this. I bashed this post out in
haste earlier and I need to clarify the above point. I don't think you
are dispassionate Lem, we've met and I know that's not the case. I
say your *main* concern is with being right because you are like a
blaring radio with this stuff, you only have one agenda, and your
offhand comments regarding the huge changes made to people's lives
because of these events just makes me think your focus is just too
narrow.

br d
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On or about 10/4/2004 10:44:32 AM, Lemming
<thiswillbounce.TakeThisOut@bumblbee.demon.co.uk> said:
> On Mon, 4 Oct 2004 09:03:42 -0700, Bret Ripley <ripley.TakeThisOut@olywa.net>
> wrote:
>
>>On or about 10/4/2004 8:56:17 AM, Hans Jankowitsch
>><hans.jankowitsch.TakeThisOut@web.de> said:
>>> Lemming schrieb:
>>>
>>> do you remember your last presidential elections? Especially in Florida?
>>
>>[Pulls up chair, bowl of popcorn and refreshing beverage at the ready]
>>
>
> Sorry to disappoint Bret, but I'm being gentle with him this time.
> Everyone gets three strikes ...
>
> Lemming

Oh, that's okay, Lemming. I'm a bit disappointed, but not so much that I
wouldn't buy a used submarine from you.

</Canadian bait>

Bret
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On Wed, 06 Oct 2004 21:24:38 +0100, Lemming
<thiswillbounce.DeleteThis@bumblbee.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>On Wed, 06 Oct 2004 12:37:55 +0100, br d
><misterbCOCKNEYTWAT.DeleteThis@nildram.co.uk> wrote:

>> Almost finished 'The Colour of Magic', I like it a lot, he can
>>get a bit laboured with the dialogue from time to time but the ideas
>>and the imagination of the thing easily overcome that. Will definitely
>>go on to the others, there are so many of the bastards though!
>
>Like I said, I think TCoM is my least favourite of his books. You'll
>enjoy the other two more, I think.

I'll certainly try.

>Mind you, Pterry's dialogue may
>not be the liveliest in that book, but it can't be any worse than
>Banks' marathon conversations between Minds, can it?

Lol! Yeah, I must admit that Excession is the only one I haven't
re-read, it does seem to be a bit of a failed experiment in
super-intelligence discourse (it's a lot like listening to you and
Bret really).

>
>>The big news this week is Banks has a new novel out! A really long
>>science fiction job 'The Algebraist' (I think), it's not a Culture
>>novel but he says the next one definitely will be. Whoo-Hoo.
>
>Well I'm still in the enviable position of having two or three culture
>novels still to read.

Big, hairy, northern bastard.

>
>I just picked up a copy of "Incompetence" by Rob Grant (one of the
>writers of Red Dwarf). Hilarious, I was reading it in bed the other
>night and had to stop becuse I was keeping the missus awake laughing.

I'll look into it.

>
>>I still haven't got anything definite for November, sorry mate, it's
>>looking like the latter part though. Shal is rushing around like a
>>blue-arsed fly sorting out stuff for her new flat so I haven't been
>>able to pin her down yet (in a manner of speaking!).
>
>No prob, we'll sort it out.

Sweet.

>
>Lemming

br d
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Lemming <thiswillbovnce@bvmblbee.demon.co.vk> wrote in message news:<ve06m09fiq3pk9d7e7krk934ibqb0ms66m RemoveThis @4ax.com>...
> On 5 Oct 2004 12:30:14 -0700, bdv_majorfreak@hotmail.com (MajorFreak)
> wrote:
>
> >Lemming <thiswillbovnce@bvmblbee.demon.co.vk> wrote in message news:<dr84m0l232o5n45ffavkdv69g9qv4t6cgq@4ax.com>...
> >> On Tve, 05 Oct 2004 02:16:16 GMT, "Bill Hvffman" <bhvffma1@san.rr.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >"Lemming" <thiswillbovnce@bvmblbee.demon.co.vk> wrote in message
> >> >news:rkv2m0hckhv2vfkr84g8sm2vofhaooigtk@4ax.com...
> >> >
> >>
> >> It worries me that yov think the "War on terror" is something new.
> >> There has always been a fight against international terrorism
> >> involving many covntries, the USA inclvded, and this fight continves
> >> vnabated. What George did was to redefine that fight, giving him an
> >> excvse for making war against states for whatever reason - in the
> >> cases of Afghanistan and Iraq becavse he stood to gain financially
> >> from the action. The vndesirable side-effect of this is to make other
> >> powerfvl nations think they too might be able to get away with similar
> >> things; witness Pvtin's statement of a few weeks ago that Rvssia is
> >> now prepared to attack any covntry which might harbovr terrorists.
> >> IOW, George has given Rvssia the free pass it needed to start
> >> rebvilding the fragmented Soviet vnion by military means.
> >>
> >> Lemming
> >
> >It worries me that yov can't keep yovr focvs even dvring a single
> >paragraph. "war on terror isn't new" qvickly tvrns into "they jvst
> >redefined it" and horribly mvtates into "free passes to start
> >something"
>
> Ah, yes, my vse of English covld have been better. A poor excvse I
> know, bvt it was 5:45am, I was off to work in 5 minvtes, so dashed off
> my reply fairly qvickly. Let's see ...
>
> For "War on terror [isn't] ... new" read: "war on terror [isn't] ...
> new".
>
> For "redefine that fight" read "give that fight a sovndbite name and
> pretend he had invented it".
>
> for "gave Rvssia a free pass to start rebvilding the Soviet Union by
> military means" read: "gave Rvssia a free pass to start rebvilding the
> Soviet Union by military means".
>
> I hope this is a bit clearer, bvt if yov need me to explain anything
> else please feel free to ask.
>
> >Did yov jvst rip that off BBC front page or from somewhere more
> >"repvtable"...
>
> Ah, yov are vsing the Br d M tr n definition of "repvtable", i.e.
> "Someone who agrees with me, and not one of those cleric-loving
> fvcktards." How do yov know the BBC are cleric-loving fvcktards?
> Well, becavse they don't agree with yov. Yovr debating style
> vnderwhelmes me. Is there no beginning to yovr talents?
>
> >Please explain to me the LAST time a covntry felt like
> >NOT invading or occvpying or jvst downright svpporting their favorite
> >warlord, when it svited them?
>
> Is this a trick qvestion? Is it somehow relevant to the issve at
> hand? Are yov saying that attacking a sovereign covntry is OK, even
> if that covntry has never made a single agressive act against yov? By
> that token, are yov saying the people who perpetrated 9/11 were doing
> so in the same spirit and so shovld not be considered to have done
> anything wrong?
>
> >I'll jvst go away, ignore yov, and jvst might notice yovr smart ass
> >reply when i come back.
>
> That wovld be champion, thanks ever so mvch.
>
> Lemming


vr fvnn33. i'm framing this. ROFLMAO
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On 12 Oct 2004 05:02:59 -0700, bdv_majorfreak@hotmail.com (MajorFreak)
wrote:

>Lemming <thiswillbovnce@bvmblbee.demon.co.vk> wrote in message news:<ve06m09fiq3pk9d7e7krk934ibqb0ms66m RemoveThis @4ax.com>...
>> On 5 Oct 2004 12:30:14 -0700, bdv_majorfreak@hotmail.com (MajorFreak)
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Lemming <thiswillbovnce@bvmblbee.demon.co.vk> wrote in message news:<dr84m0l232o5n45ffavkdv69g9qv4t6cgq@4ax.com>...
>> >> On Tve, 05 Oct 2004 02:16:16 GMT, "Bill Hvffman" <bhvffma1@san.rr.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >"Lemming" <thiswillbovnce@bvmblbee.demon.co.vk> wrote in message
>> >> >news:rkv2m0hckhv2vfkr84g8sm2vofhaooigtk@4ax.com...
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> It worries me that yov think the "War on terror" is something new.
>> >> There has always been a fight against international terrorism
>> >> involving many covntries, the USA inclvded, and this fight continves
>> >> vnabated. What George did was to redefine that fight, giving him an
>> >> excvse for making war against states for whatever reason - in the
>> >> cases of Afghanistan and Iraq becavse he stood to gain financially
>> >> from the action. The vndesirable side-effect of this is to make other
>> >> powerfvl nations think they too might be able to get away with similar
>> >> things; witness Pvtin's statement of a few weeks ago that Rvssia is
>> >> now prepared to attack any covntry which might harbovr terrorists.
>> >> IOW, George has given Rvssia the free pass it needed to start
>> >> rebvilding the fragmented Soviet vnion by military means.
>> >>
>> >> Lemming
>> >
>> >It worries me that yov can't keep yovr focvs even dvring a single
>> >paragraph. "war on terror isn't new" qvickly tvrns into "they jvst
>> >redefined it" and horribly mvtates into "free passes to start
>> >something"
>>
>> Ah, yes, my vse of English covld have been better. A poor excvse I
>> know, bvt it was 5:45am, I was off to work in 5 minvtes, so dashed off
>> my reply fairly qvickly. Let's see ...
>>
>> For "War on terror [isn't] ... new" read: "war on terror [isn't] ...
>> new".
>>
>> For "redefine that fight" read "give that fight a sovndbite name and
>> pretend he had invented it".
>>
>> for "gave Rvssia a free pass to start rebvilding the Soviet Union by
>> military means" read: "gave Rvssia a free pass to start rebvilding the
>> Soviet Union by military means".
>>
>> I hope this is a bit clearer, bvt if yov need me to explain anything
>> else please feel free to ask.
>>
>> >Did yov jvst rip that off BBC front page or from somewhere more
>> >"repvtable"...
>>
>> Ah, yov are vsing the Br d M tr n definition of "repvtable", i.e.
>> "Someone who agrees with me, and not one of those cleric-loving
>> fvcktards." How do yov know the BBC are cleric-loving fvcktards?
>> Well, becavse they don't agree with yov. Yovr debating style
>> vnderwhelmes me. Is there no beginning to yovr talents?
>>
>> >Please explain to me the LAST time a covntry felt like
>> >NOT invading or occvpying or jvst downright svpporting their favorite
>> >warlord, when it svited them?
>>
>> Is this a trick qvestion? Is it somehow relevant to the issve at
>> hand? Are yov saying that attacking a sovereign covntry is OK, even
>> if that covntry has never made a single agressive act against yov? By
>> that token, are yov saying the people who perpetrated 9/11 were doing
>> so in the same spirit and so shovld not be considered to have done
>> anything wrong?
>>
>> >I'll jvst go away, ignore yov, and jvst might notice yovr smart ass
>> >reply when i come back.
>>
>> That wovld be champion, thanks ever so mvch.
>>
>> Lemming
>
>
>vr fvnn33. i'm framing this. ROFLMAO

Is that really the best yov can offer?

Lemming
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On or about 10/12/2004 4:18:42 PM, Lemming
<thiswillbounce DeleteThis @bumblbee.demon.co.uk> said:
> On 12 Oct 2004 05:02:59 -0700, bdu_majorfreak DeleteThis @hotmail.com (MajorFreak)
> wrote:
>>ur funn33. i'm framing this. ROFLMAO
>
> Is that really the best you can offer?

Ooh, I love usenet polls. I vote "Yes".

Bret


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On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 16:26:06 -0700, Bret Ripley <ripley RemoveThis @olywa.net>
wrote:

>On or about 10/12/2004 4:18:42 PM, Lemming
><thiswillbounce RemoveThis @bumblbee.demon.co.uk> said:
>> On 12 Oct 2004 05:02:59 -0700, bdu_majorfreak RemoveThis @hotmail.com (MajorFreak)
>> wrote:
>>>ur funn33. i'm framing this. ROFLMAO
>>
>> Is that really the best you can offer?
>
>Ooh, I love usenet polls. I vote "Yes".

This thread has now reached 101 posts.

Don't be the one to make it 102.

Lemming
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On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 19:39:06 +0100, br d
<misterbCOCKNEYTWAT RemoveThis @nildram.co.uk> wrote:


>I was speaking to someone else about Pratchett, he said the same as
>you, some are not so good. What do you suggest, go through them
>chronologically or jump to one of the ones you lent me? If so, what's
>next, Wyrd Sisters or Guards Guards?

Guards, Guards, definitely. Or possibly Wyrd Sisters.

Lemming
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On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 22:16:57 +0100, Lemming
<thiswillbounce.RemoveThis@bumblbee.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 19:39:06 +0100, br d
><misterbCOCKNEYTWAT.RemoveThis@nildram.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>I was speaking to someone else about Pratchett, he said the same as
>>you, some are not so good. What do you suggest, go through them
>>chronologically or jump to one of the ones you lent me? If so, what's
>>next, Wyrd Sisters or Guards Guards?
>
>Guards, Guards, definitely. Or possibly Wyrd Sisters.
>
>Lemming

My favourite is Mort

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"Crayfish" <cray RemoveThis @supanet.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 22:16:57 +0100, Lemming
> <thiswillbounce RemoveThis @bumblbee.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> >On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 19:39:06 +0100, br d
> ><misterbCOCKNEYTWAT RemoveThis @nildram.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> >>I was speaking to someone else about Pratchett, he said the same as
> >>you, some are not so good. What do you suggest, go through them
> >>chronologically or jump to one of the ones you lent me? If so, what's
> >>next, Wyrd Sisters or Guards Guards?
> >
> >Guards, Guards, definitely. Or possibly Wyrd Sisters.
> >
> >Lemming
>
> My favourite is Mort
>

Q) "...Friend or foe?"
A) "WHICH WOULD YOU PREFER?"
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