The Incredibles

On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 14:41:59 GMT, "Zachary Zulkowski" <zeeker518 RemoveThis @verizon.net> wrote:
>Syndrome ( a disease-like condition) is hardly a suitable name for
>superhero.

I was watching the movie yesterday and that hit me again. People would
know he was really a bad guy as soon as they heard his chosen name.



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"Zachary Zulkowski" <zeeker518 DeleteThis @verizon.net> wrote in message
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> Saw, "The Incredibles" on tv, has to be my favorite disney movie of all
> time, t's strange they never made a sequal or a tv series out of it;
> probably because it was made by Pixar when they were not with Disney.
>
> Commnets:
>
> Superpowers don't seem to be inherited, otherwise Dash and Violet would
> have some of the powers of their parents.
>
> The idea of supers going underground is strange, but might be cool in a
> Champions campaign,

To take this furtrher:

Having exotics wear ski-masks, hiding in abandoned building, etc, ironically
looking like the very terrorists and criminals they are fighting; that could
be an interesting take for an rpg campaign..
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"David Johnston" <david.TakeThisOut@block.net> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 14:41:59 GMT, "Zachary Zulkowski"
> <zeeker518.TakeThisOut@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>>Saw, "The Incredibles" on tv, has to be my favorite disney movie of all
>>time, t's strange they never made a sequal or a tv series out of it;
>>probably because it was made by Pixar when they were not with Disney.
>>
>>Commnets:
>>
>>Superpowers don't seem to be inherited, otherwise Dash and Violet would
>>have
>>some of the powers of their parents.
>
> Having superpowers is inherited. What form they take is
> psychological.
>
That point could be argued, in most comic books, super-powers are specific
mutations that can be inherited.

>>
>>The idea of supers going underground is strange, but might be cool in a
>>Champions campaign, tho how can anyone be sued for stopping someone for
>>commtting an illegal act; and committing suicide is illegal.
>
> Well actually it didn't matter if his case was without merit. It
> still started an avalanche of other lawsuits, like the ones from the
> people on the train. Even winning lawsuits can be expensive.
>

I'll agree with that.

There used to be an old short-lived DC comic book series called: "Damage
Control"; were a group of minor super-heros are giving the duties of
cleaning up the mess that the more powerful super-heros make.

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On Wed, 06 Feb 2008 00:24:04 GMT, "Zachary Zulkowski" <zeeker518.DeleteThis@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>Superpowers don't seem to be inherited, otherwise Dash and Violet would
>>>have
>>>some of the powers of their parents.
>>
>> Having superpowers is inherited. What form they take is
>> psychological.
>>
>That point could be argued, in most comic books, super-powers are specific
>mutations that can be inherited.

I'd disagree with that. At least in Marvel comics, only mutants have
mutations, and they usually just have the "X-Factor" that can give just
about any power. A child of two mutants would be a "mutant" (actually, it
wouldn't, because it would have inherited its parents' mutation) and have
the X-Factor, so it could have any powers. Similar things hapen in the
Wild Card novels. Supers get their powers from so many different sources
that inheritance is pretty up in the air, and IIRC _The Incredibles_
doesn't even explain where its characters get their powers, although some
kind of genetic thing seems likely, what with the kids having powers --
pretty unlikely that the baby got exposed to toxic waste already (or is an
alien or was injected with super soldier serum etc.)
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On Wed, 6 Feb 2008 16:54:36 +0000 (UTC), cgoodin.TakeThisOut@sfu.ca (Chuk Goodin)
wrote:

>On Wed, 06 Feb 2008 00:24:04 GMT, "Zachary Zulkowski" <zeeker518.TakeThisOut@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>>Superpowers don't seem to be inherited, otherwise Dash and Violet would
>>>>have
>>>>some of the powers of their parents.
>>>
>>> Having superpowers is inherited. What form they take is
>>> psychological.
>>>
>>That point could be argued, in most comic books, super-powers are specific
>>mutations that can be inherited.

I wasn't talking about most comic books, but rather The Incredibles.
In the Incredibles, superpowers are inherited but the specific powers
you get are an expression of your personality, at least at the moment
you settle on one. That's why the baby can do anything, because he
hasn't really decided who he's going to be yet.

>
>I'd disagree with that. At least in Marvel comics, only mutants have
>mutations, and they usually just have the "X-Factor" that can give just
>about any power. A child of two mutants would be a "mutant" (actually, it
>wouldn't, because it would have inherited its parents' mutation) and have
>the X-Factor, so it could have any powers. Similar things hapen in the
>Wild Card novels. Supers get their powers from so many different sources
>that inheritance is pretty up in the air, and IIRC _The Incredibles_
>doesn't even explain where its characters get their powers, although some
>kind of genetic thing seems likely, what with the kids having powers --

In the first concept of the movie revealed in the DVD extra, Mr
Incredible and Elastigirl have actually dropped out of sight because
supers having children with each other is illegal.

>pretty unlikely that the baby got exposed to toxic waste already (or is an
>alien or was injected with super soldier serum etc.)
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On Wed, 06 Feb 2008 00:24:04 GMT, "Zachary Zulkowski"
<zeeker518.DeleteThis@verizon.net> wrote:

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>"David Johnston" <david.DeleteThis@block.net> wrote in message
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>> On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 14:41:59 GMT, "Zachary Zulkowski"
>> <zeeker518.DeleteThis@verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>>>Saw, "The Incredibles" on tv, has to be my favorite disney movie of all
>>>time, t's strange they never made a sequal or a tv series out of it;
>>>probably because it was made by Pixar when they were not with Disney.
>>>
>>>Commnets:
>>>
>>>Superpowers don't seem to be inherited, otherwise Dash and Violet would
>>>have
>>>some of the powers of their parents.
>>
>> Having superpowers is inherited. What form they take is
>> psychological.
>>
>That point could be argued, in most comic books, super-powers are specific
>mutations that can be inherited.

Not entirely true.

In a lot of cases super-powers aren't mutations at all. magic, alien
science etc.

Although comic continuity makes it hard to argue completely

In the cases of mutants as I recall it
Xavier's kid had multiple powers, telekinesis, pyrokinesis some mind
affecting stuff

Magneto's kids
- Quicksilver
- The Scarlett Witch
powers not similar
- apparently Polaris is his daughter with similar but weaker powers

Banshee has Siryn (same powers)
Mystique had Nightcrawler

Scott Summers and Madeline had Cable (none of Scott's powers, I'm not
sure if Madeline had any powers herself except for the ones demons
granted her)

Scott Summers and Jean Grey had Rachel Summers in an alternative
future who (pre-phoenix) had much lesser telekinesis and telepathy
than Jean.

Franklin Richards doesn't have much resemblance to his parents as far
as powers go.

Then there's the planet in the future in The Guardians of the Galaxy
when an originally entirely mutant population ends up with virtually
no mutants (although 1 of them is decended from Wolverine and has
similar powers to him)

In DC it's no clearer

Impulse is an example of inherited powers
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On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 00:47:47 +1100, Mad Hamish
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>
>Magneto's kids
>- Quicksilver
>- The Scarlett Witch
>powers not similar
>- apparently Polaris is his daughter with similar but weaker powers

No, that Magneto was a robot. Polaris isn't related to Magneto. At
least, not now.
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> No, that Magneto was a robot.  Polaris isn't related to Magneto.  At
> least, not now.  

That was changed five years ago.

see below pic

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