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Laurence

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(Msg. 196) Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2005 12:56 pm
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Charlie <jonathan_downie.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Laurence wrote:

> > Not that there's anything wrong with making a profit from
> > things. I've managed to turn a tidy sum from quite a few of
> > my adventures. Even those that had quite incredible initial
> > expenditures. There are some stunts I've pulled that needed
> > the full resources of the corp.

> "I guess I'm lucky as a barter based trader. Most of my
> prices are so negotiable that I will accept almost anything so
> long as I can find someone else to shift it on to. My order
> book is usually so full that I can give you a price in just
> about any resource. I was wondering tho', who is the corp?"

"Grenville-Adams PLC. Don't worry if you haven't heard of us, we
operate differently to Renraku, Aztechnology and the like, so we
don't show on the public's radar the way they do."

> > At least that's one thing that's different for the corp I'm
> > with, if you can put a good case forward they're willing to
> > put a lot of weight behind you. I hear that in some corps
> > you have to be, or have the ear of, someone in the executive
> > board to get anything done.

> "How much weight are we talking about?"

"About as much as any of the big six could generate, and we can
do it a lot less publicly. As to how much that is, imagine my
being able to have a totally new kind of attack vehicle carrying
three or four people depending on their requirements, needing
several new technologies to be brought together, and for use
against a single target, taken from rough sketch to fully
working prototype in the space of six months.

Obviously it was a very important target, for more than just my
corp, and we've found other uses for it since."

> Charlie begins to grin worryingly.

"Don't worry, I didn't come here on business, and our way of
working doesn't squash the smaller businessman out of existance."

Jonathon's return grin is open and honest.

Jonathon

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(Msg. 197) Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2005 1:08 pm
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Wildwind <wildwindsco DeleteThis @yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> Laurence wrote:

> > "I've had to do that to individuals on occasion, but I've
> > never tried shutting down a whole plant or building that way.

> "It's easy if you know the right kind of people."

"I know quite a few people who could put the SAS into catatonia
if they wanted to, but the corps that run those places have a
good idea what they are facing and have the, facilities, to deal
with such an attack as well as the more standard physical ones."

> <snip>

> > > "Like I said, Cougar is my Journey totem and when that
> > > journey is complete she'll leave, whether I want her to or
> > > not."

> > Ah. Thank you for clearing it up. It's still very unusual
> > that two or more spirits would cooperate. OK, if you've got
> > a Wolf Shaman and a Rat Shaman on one run they can join
> > together when they're casting, but I know of a Wolf Shaman
> > and a Hermetic Mage who can do the same."

> "The Spirits will do whatever they need to do to achieve their
> aims...they even let you believe _you're the one who's in
> control."

Jonathon laughs. It's a rich honest laugh, the kind you would
find coming from someone that has a strong sense of humour.

"Now that's exactly how it is. Mr Manchester is one of the most
manipulative beings I've ever come across, but he does it so
neatly that most people never realise that they've been steered.
In fact most people never realise they've met him."

Jonathon

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(Msg. 198) Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2005 3:06 pm
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Laurence wrote:
> In article
> <1106692891.354454.273990 DeleteThis @c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
> Charlie <jonathan_downie DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Laurence wrote:
> > > In article
> > > <1106565523.325090.224150 DeleteThis @c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
> > > Charlie <jonathan_downie DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > "Sorry to butt in freinds but do you know anything about
> > > > zinc pellets? I have an order here for several thousand
> > > > and noone seems interested in helping me deliver it."
>
> > > "Zinc pellets? No, I haven't ordered any."
>
> > "The order said something about a nonorganic lifeform. Know
> > of any?"
>
> "Non-organic? That eliminates everyone in here as far as I can
> tell. And apart from the odd spirit or elemental I've never met
> a totally nonorganic lifeform. I've met a few beings that have
> come close though with all the cyber they've stuffed into
> themselves."

"I was told there was some sort of robotic spider. I have a contact
called Wilf who said to give the spider, or was it spyder, 25000 1mm
zinc pellets on a no downpayment deal."

>
> > > Apparently it's a bit quiet here at the moment, someone may
> > > have ordered them and then had to leave for a while. I'm
> > > sure they'll be back though, people do tend to return here
> > > once they've discovered a place like this one."
>
> > "Okay then, I'll try again later."
>
> > He turns to go out.
>
> > "Portal"
>
> > Nothing happens.
>
> > "ahem. PORTAL"
>
> > More nothing happens.
>
> Jonathon looks on interestedly.
>

"It's really frustrating when this happens."

> > He turns back round.
>
> > "erm, I appear to be stuck here for a while. Could you suggest
> > something to make time pass quicker?"
>
> "Well, if you tell a story you get a drink for free. After that
> I think you have to buy them normally, or get someone else to
> buy them for you.

"I don't do anything normally. I'm not sure how much gold I have in
storage. Hold on."

He puts his suitcase on a table and opens it up.

"Catalogue."

A piece of yellowing paper appears in the main compartment. he shuts
the case.

"Precious metals, precious metals. Ah, here we are. Silver, 3thou
metric tons, bronze, figurines only, awaiting collection. Gold, one
metric tons plus several gold objets d'art modelled on the Renaissance
style. One life size gold model of the David statue, awaiting
corresponding item. One miniature golden boat, out of sale time limit,
not wanted by owner, reverts to company. Oh and one gold medallion.

Would that be enough? I really must clear my stock."

>
> I see there's a jukebox, perhaps it has something interesting.
> There's a table over there which has some form of game on it, I
> don't recognise it from here, but if there's one pub game there
> have to be others.
>
> I'm sure you won't die of boredom."

"Oh I have found plenty easier things to die from. Have you heard of
the Ebola virus?"

>
> > > <Snip>
>
> > > > Charlie gives both characters a farm handshake and is all
> > > > ears.
>
> > > Jonathon returns the handshake firmly. His hand seems a bit
> > > cold.
>
> > Charlie notices but does not comment. That is except a short
> > quiet "oh."
>
>
> Jonathon is used to this reaction and has his story ready.
>
> "I've not been in here long myself and it's rather chilly out on
> the moors at this time of the year."

Charlie gives him a wink.
"Terribly cold things, moors."

>
> > > "I'm Jonathon Young. Pleased to meet you."
>
> > "Charlie Beener, trader at large."
>
> "Part of the free enterprise system then?
>

"It's only free enterprise when they pay me. My fee fluctuates with
each deal. I have been paid in gold, kind, food, vehicules, camels etc
etc. One chief even wanted me to take his daughter as payment. Turned
her down of course. Got some nice army fatigues instead. Poor
germans."

> I prefer corporate dealings, but in my non-corporate life I've
> bought and sold data and material with individuals.
>
> Do you have a speciality or do you subscribe to that old Ferengi
> law that opportunity plus instinct equals profit?"

"I specialise in what my clients ask me to specialise in. I do
corporate and individual trades. My favourite kind of deal is either a
well-paid one of a difficult one. Usually they are one and the same.
I like to find and trade rare things. I have a sideline as a military
negotiator but that doesn't pay so well. gets dangerous too.
To be honest, I don't usually do profits in the normal sense. mediums
of exchange change in so many sectors that storing my wealth in any one
resource would be foolishness. I like to own land, tho'. Most of my
oldest clients accept that throwing a few acres of prime arable or
inner-city land will make me work that little bit harder."
He winks.
"I also tend to collect things that people forget to collect. There is
a 30 day time limit on all deals. If the stuff gets trapped after
that, it's mine."

>
> <snip>
>
> > > > "I can get panzers for you. I would need a kiloton of
> > > > grain and two camera tripods tho'."
> > >
> > > "An interesting trade, but unless there is something unusual
> > > about the panzers, the corp I work with has enough for its,
> > > defensive and exploratory needs."
>
> > "Interesting. How big is this 'corp'?"
>
> "We're one of the biggest in the world, but also one of the
> least known, mainly because we don't actually have any
> manufacturing or administrative base in our own name. We run on
> the Competitive Monopolization principle."

"How does that principle go exactly?"

>
> > Charlie swings his briefcase up and flips it open.
>
> > "Got a few outstanding orders here. Nicolame IV needs 3
> > kilotons of grain with enough trucks to ship them
> > cross-country. i have an anonymous client who is looking for
> > some kind of warhead but I can't make out what. Oh, and I
> > have someone by the name of Nic who wants to sell panzers for
> > grain, camera tripods and some artillery."
>
> "The weapons I definitely can't help you with, G.A. have a
> policy on that sort of deal, and you don't want to know what
> they did to the last board member who transgressed that
> particular rule.

"Pity. It's amazing what you can get for weapons."

>
> Transporters I could get you fairly easily, although we'd have
> to get the grain itself elswhere. Perhaps we could extend our
> links with another corporation that we've been working closely
> with for the last few years to see what they have, I know
> they're much more agronomic than we are. What would Nicolame IV
> have to offer?"

"He is a multi-dimension specialist and a monarch. He rules a small
province just on the edge of some galaxy. He told me once that he has
wormhole technology but I haven't seen it. He would be happy to trade
the same kind of technology I have in my case here.

This thing is actually a portal of some sort. Whenever I put anything
in it, it transports it to a storge facility that is slightly out of
phase with the rest of our reality. It also includes psychic
technology allowing me to recall objects by thought only. Although I
like to speak it as well.

The beauty of it is that the portal is totally adjustable. I can pull
pretty much anything through just so long as I can imagine it fitting.
It also includes an autocatalogue and retrieval system (ACRS2). It
never needs organising by any human."

>
> > > Jonathon.
> > > As the vampire here would say "New blood is always welcome."
>
> > Charlie
> > charmed i'm sure
>
> Jonathon.
> Don't worry, I'm not hungry. And I have a problem with snacking
> on food that objects strongly. Smile
>

Charlie
I object very strongly to being eaten

> --
> ... "Human instincts are hard-wired programming."
>
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> |__||__)/ __/ \|\ ||_ | And isn't your life extremely flat
> | || \\__/\__/| \||__ | with nothing whatever to grumble at.
>
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(Msg. 199) Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2005 6:40 pm
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In article
<1106692891.354454.273990 DeleteThis @c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
Charlie <jonathan_downie DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote:

> Laurence wrote:
> > In article
> > <1106565523.325090.224150 DeleteThis @c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
> > Charlie <jonathan_downie DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote:

> > > "Sorry to butt in freinds but do you know anything about
> > > zinc pellets? I have an order here for several thousand
> > > and noone seems interested in helping me deliver it."

> > "Zinc pellets? No, I haven't ordered any."

> "The order said something about a nonorganic lifeform. Know
> of any?"

"Non-organic? That eliminates everyone in here as far as I can
tell. And apart from the odd spirit or elemental I've never met
a totally nonorganic lifeform. I've met a few beings that have
come close though with all the cyber they've stuffed into
themselves."

> > Apparently it's a bit quiet here at the moment, someone may
> > have ordered them and then had to leave for a while. I'm
> > sure they'll be back though, people do tend to return here
> > once they've discovered a place like this one."

> "Okay then, I'll try again later."

> He turns to go out.

> "Portal"

> Nothing happens.

> "ahem. PORTAL"

> More nothing happens.

Jonathon looks on interestedly.

> He turns back round.

> "erm, I appear to be stuck here for a while. Could you suggest
> something to make time pass quicker?"

"Well, if you tell a story you get a drink for free. After that
I think you have to buy them normally, or get someone else to
buy them for you.

I see there's a jukebox, perhaps it has something interesting.
There's a table over there which has some form of game on it, I
don't recognise it from here, but if there's one pub game there
have to be others.

I'm sure you won't die of boredom."

> > <Snip>

> > > Charlie gives both characters a farm handshake and is all
> > > ears.

> > Jonathon returns the handshake firmly. His hand seems a bit
> > cold.

> Charlie notices but does not comment. That is except a short
> quiet "oh."


Jonathon is used to this reaction and has his story ready.

"I've not been in here long myself and it's rather chilly out on
the moors at this time of the year."

> > "I'm Jonathon Young. Pleased to meet you."

> "Charlie Beener, trader at large."

"Part of the free enterprise system then?

I prefer corporate dealings, but in my non-corporate life I've
bought and sold data and material with individuals.

Do you have a speciality or do you subscribe to that old Ferengi
law that opportunity plus instinct equals profit?"

<snip>

> > > "I can get panzers for you. I would need a kiloton of
> > > grain and two camera tripods tho'."
> >
> > "An interesting trade, but unless there is something unusual
> > about the panzers, the corp I work with has enough for its,
> > defensive and exploratory needs."

> "Interesting. How big is this 'corp'?"

"We're one of the biggest in the world, but also one of the
least known, mainly because we don't actually have any
manufacturing or administrative base in our own name. We run on
the Competitive Monopolization principle."

> Charlie swings his briefcase up and flips it open.

> "Got a few outstanding orders here. Nicolame IV needs 3
> kilotons of grain with enough trucks to ship them
> cross-country. i have an anonymous client who is looking for
> some kind of warhead but I can't make out what. Oh, and I
> have someone by the name of Nic who wants to sell panzers for
> grain, camera tripods and some artillery."

"The weapons I definitely can't help you with, G.A. have a
policy on that sort of deal, and you don't want to know what
they did to the last board member who transgressed that
particular rule.

Transporters I could get you fairly easily, although we'd have
to get the grain itself elswhere. Perhaps we could extend our
links with another corporation that we've been working closely
with for the last few years to see what they have, I know
they're much more agronomic than we are. What would Nicolame IV
have to offer?"

> > Jonathon.
> > As the vampire here would say "New blood is always welcome."

> Charlie
> charmed i'm sure

Jonathon.
Don't worry, I'm not hungry. And I have a problem with snacking
on food that objects strongly. Smile

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(Msg. 200) Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 3:13 am
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In article
<1106752356.999039.263330.DeleteThis@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
Charlie <jonathan_downie.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Laurence wrote:
> > In article
> > <1106573312.724107.326300.DeleteThis@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
> > Charlie <jonathan_downie.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote:

> > > "I guess I'm lucky as a barter based trader. Most of my
> > > prices are so negotiable that I will accept almost
> > > anything so long as I can find someone else to shift it on
> > > to. My order book is usually so full that I can give you
> > > a price in just about any resource. I was wondering tho',
> > > who is the corp?"

> > "Grenville-Adams PLC. Don't worry if you haven't heard of
> > us, we operate differently to Renraku, Aztechnology and the
> > like, so we don't show on the public's radar the way they
> > do."

> "Interesting. So we are talking more of a covert opps
> organisation? Do you use mercenaries?"

"We have a system that we call Competitive Monopolisation.
Basically we own just about every minor corp in some areas of
manufacture or service. We keep our ownership secret obviously.

The owned corps still believe they're in competition with the
others we own so they stay lean and hungry, but some
technological advances are shared via assorted means, which
prevents any one of them becoming dominant. Any other corp
thinking of moving into one of our areas sees that there are
several competitors there already and the chances of them making
a decent profit in a reasonable time is minimal, so they tend to
stay out.

It also gives the customers a wider choice of product so they
are happy.

Obviously we don't make as much profit as we would from a
stright monopoly, but we also don't make ourselves a target."


> > > "How much weight are we talking about?"

> > "About as much as any of the big six could generate, and we
> > can do it a lot less publicly. As to how much that is,
> > imagine my being able to have a totally new kind of attack
> > vehicle carrying three or four people depending on their
> > requirements, needing several new technologies to be brought
> > together, and for use against a single target, taken from
> > rough sketch to fully working prototype in the space of six
> > months.

> > Obviously it was a very important target, for more than just
> > my corp, and we've found other uses for it since."

> "How much would one of these things set back an interested
> client?"

"Well, the technology is now proven, but it's really only useful
against certain defenses and large fixed locations. We developed
it to get a four man team inside a heavy magickal shield so they
could take out the mages maintaining it.

Unless of course you've got a use for a vehicle that has a top
speed of one mile an hour and is virtually defenseless if you
know where it's going to pop up?"

> Could your corp make a vehicle that could carry say, ten
> people and be capable of launching ground-to-air missiles?"

"We could, but we stay out of weapons sales. You'd be better
dealing with Ares, Aztechnology or Saeder-Krupp for that sort of
thing."

> > > Charlie begins to grin worryingly.

> > "Don't worry, I didn't come here on business, and our way of
> > working doesn't squash the smaller businessman out of
> > existance."

> > Jonathon's return grin is open and honest.


> "Oh I'm anything but small. I am a bit like your corp, busy,
> with lots of contacts but I like to stay under the normal
> radar."

"We find it's safer that way."

> "I did a trade with Aztechnology once. Hope they never
> found the faults with that thing that I did. Not my fault the
> trading partner was a gimp."

"OK, scratch Aztechnology as a possible supplier for those
weapons carriers you want. If they've discovered the problem,
they have long memories.

I prefer Saeder-Krupp's for heavy gear anyway. Ares are better
at the small stuff, dart and handguns up to smaller rocket
launchers, but S-K make the better vehicle mounted weapons and
carriers."

> Charlie looks a little depressed.

> "I take failed trades and dodgy merchandise very seriously."

"So do we. Although we don't usually have much of a problem in
that respect."

Jonathon.
And you should see how long some of our board members can
remember things. Smile

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Charlie wrote:
>
> "What kind of plants do you know about? What you be prepared to know
> with enough gentle persuasion?"

She frowns. "_Gentle _persuasion?."

> "Is there no way I can, ahem, help the process along a bit?"

"I'm sure I could arrange for a 'meeting' with Wendigo if you're in a
hurry. He's _real social and likes meeting new people."
> Charlie

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(Msg. 202) Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 4:37 am
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Laurence wrote:

> "I know quite a few people who could put the SAS into catatonia
> if they wanted to, but the corps that run those places have a
> good idea what they are facing and have the, facilities, to deal
> with such an attack as well as the more standard physical ones."

"Fortunately the companies here, don't. A little bit of terror still
goes a long way."

> Jonathon laughs. It's a rich honest laugh, the kind you would
> find coming from someone that has a strong sense of humour.
>
> "Now that's exactly how it is. Mr Manchester is one of the most
> manipulative beings I've ever come across, but he does it so
> neatly that most people never realise that they've been steered.
> In fact most people never realise they've met him."
She laughs. "The invisible man."


> Jonathon
>
-Wildwind
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Wildwind wrote:
> Charlie wrote:
> >
> > "What kind of plants do you know about? What you be prepared to
know
> > with enough gentle persuasion?"
>
> She frowns. "_Gentle _persuasion?."

"Gentle monetary persuasion of course."
Charlie winks.

>
> > "Is there no way I can, ahem, help the process along a bit?"
>
> "I'm sure I could arrange for a 'meeting' with Wendigo if you're in a
> hurry. He's _real social and likes meeting new people."

"Could be interesting. Do I have to believe anything in particular for
this?"

Charlie
> > Charlie
>
> -Wildwind
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Laurence wrote:
> In article <Xns95E6ADE4B6D12plrctyky.DeleteThis@130.81.64.196>,
> Kylinn <kylinn.DeleteThis@kygmail.comky> wrote:
> > Laurence <lb.DeleteThis@argonet.co.uk> wrote :
> > > Kylinn <kylinn.DeleteThis@kygmail.comky> wrote:
> > >> Laurence <lb.DeleteThis@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > >> > "OK. Har-angue. A forceful style of speech."
> > >
> > >> "Har-poon. Something to stick in people who are pretending
> > >> that other people didn't notice what they said."
> > >
> > > "Har-ass. To badger, persecute or otherwise annoy or
> > > trouble constantly."
>
> > "Har-vest. To reap the results of one's labor." Toby
> > extends his hand.
>
> "Har-bour. A safe place for boats to stay, or to hide or protect
> someone."

"Har-dhead. Dogmatic"

<snip>
> > "If that's wheat you want to do. Since you're afraid, rye
> > would I force you to corntinue? All I can do is accede to
> > your request and acknowledgement of my superior skill."
> > Toby gestures magnanimously.
>
> "It's knot that sow much, moor how the others here wood react. I
> beach you they'd do so badly.
>
> Tsunami and you need something else to talk about."

"May I wave in with my two cents? Perhaps I am being too farm."

<snip>

Charlie

> > > "Heathrow's close. The area's a toxic zone. Not the kind of
> > > place you want to visit unless you've got a couple of
> > > panzers backing you up."
>
> > "If I don't have panzers, will panthers do?"
>
> "I wouldn't recommend them. You really need armour to get in and
> out of there safely.
>
> There are rumours that there's a paraspecies living there that
> has the strength to rip cars apart with its teeth. At least
> that's what it looks like happened to some of the wrecks that
> have been recovered."
>
> Jonathon.
>
> --
> ... Anyone got some marbles for sale? I think I've lost mine.
>
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Charlie wrote:
>
> "Gentle monetary persuasion of course."
> Charlie winks.

Wildwind stares at him stoney faced.

> > "I'm sure I could arrange for a 'meeting' with Wendigo if you're in
a
> > hurry. He's _real social and likes meeting new people."
>
> "Could be interesting. Do I have to believe anything in particular
for
> this?"

She shakes her head in disbelief. "A word to the wise, Ve-ho-e. Don't
meddle with things you don't understand."
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In article
<1106829456.767515.119310.RemoveThis@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
Wildwind <wildwindsco.RemoveThis@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> Laurence wrote:

> > "I know quite a few people who could put the SAS into
> > catatonia if they wanted to, but the corps that run those
> > places have a good idea what they are facing and have the,
> > facilities, to deal with such an attack as well as the more
> > standard physical ones."

> "Fortunately the companies here, don't. A little bit of terror
> still goes a long way."

"I suppose it's a bit harder to terrify someone when they can
find an Abrams Lobster in the runoff tanks or a Lesser Roc
setting up its nest on one of the stacks. All essential
personnel go through regular psychometric testing, offically to
make sure they aren't suffering stress buildup, but it's also
used to reinforce their willpower. Something that's seriously
needed at one place I know, where they've deliberately
introduced some Gloaming Owls.

Don't let anyone tell you that those things are only pro-eco.
The lot that have been put in that processing plant are
definitely tuned to go for greens."

<Snip>

> > "Now that's exactly how it is. Mr Manchester is one of the
> > most manipulative beings I've ever come across, but he does
> > it so neatly that most people never realise that they've
> > been steered. In fact most people never realise they've met
> > him."

> She laughs. "The invisible man."

"Oh, he's visible enough when he wants to be, but he says he
finds it much better if those he wants to work through don't
know who he really is. The first time I met him was when I
discovered that a certain corp wanted to buy up a park and turn
it into a processing plant.

That was bad enough, but there was a cairn in there, I'm sure
you can figure out who ran it, and the corp was DNA. I was, lets
say predisposed towards working against them after a certain
incident a few months earlier, and my corp agreed that this
expansion was not in our best interests.

Unfortunately they had the local gov' sewn up and we were
getting nowhere on cracking it when Mr Manchester showed up with
a rather interesting document. At the time I had no reason to
check him out properly, and as far as I could tell he was just
what he claimed to be, a local academic specialising in land
registry.

Turned out that the document was the original deed giving the
land to the city. There was one very interesting clause in it,
that the land must always remain open for the people of the area
to use for recreation and rest.

We got the document authenticated and presented it, not to the
local board where we wouldn't have trid cover, but to the
regional assembly. They have some serious publicity available,
and the right to overturn any decision made by a lower tier of
gov'. Once they had the original document they informed the
local crew that any attempt to sell or give away the land to any
private body with the aim of removing public access to the area
would result in a local election, with the incumbents barred
from standing.

DNA went away quietly, pretending that they had no interest in
the park. They were probably hoping that they could come back in
a few years and syphon it up, but then my corp, working through
one of the many independent corps that in reality we own, put in
a reasonable bid for the area, with the intention of
refurbishing the park and making money off sales of food and
drink, hire of boats, the usual. One thing we didn't specify in
the plans was that a certain area of the park would be left to
the maintenance of, another group. Other subsidiaries of ours
snapped up a lot of derelict and rundown property in the area,
before our intentions with the park became publicly known.

The gov' accepted our bid, actually they jumped through hoops to
get us to take it, and signed over the land. So far we haven't
actually made a profit out of that part of the deal, but with
vandalism and such dropping in an area around the park, and some
improved security, the properties in the vicinity have seen a
serious increase in value. We are selling some of them off
slowly, to individuals and corps that have aims that we and our
friends can live with. The rest are being turned into places for
our cover companies, housing for people who work for companies
we own, I'm sure I don't have to tell you the details.

I expect that we will make something like a 500% profit on the
total deal in the next ten years. Not bad for something that
started out as a simple blocking manoeuvre."

Jonathon

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Wildwind wrote:
> Charlie wrote:
> >
> > "Gentle monetary persuasion of course."
> > Charlie winks.
>
> Wildwind stares at him stoney faced.

"I mean I would make any deal more than worthwhile."
Charlie is looking a little put off.

>
> > > "I'm sure I could arrange for a 'meeting' with Wendigo if you're
in
> a
> > > hurry. He's _real social and likes meeting new people."
> >
> > "Could be interesting. Do I have to believe anything in particular
> for
> > this?"
>
> She shakes her head in disbelief. "A word to the wise, Ve-ho-e. Don't
> meddle with things you don't understand."

"Sorry, didn't mean to offend."
Charlie
> -Wildwind
> Luckily for you I have a conscience.
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Wildwind wrote:
> Charlie wrote:
> >
> > "Gentle monetary persuasion of course."
> > Charlie winks.
>
> Wildwind stares at him stoney faced.

"I mean I would make any deal more than worthwhile."
Charlie is looking a little put off.

>
> > > "I'm sure I could arrange for a 'meeting' with Wendigo if you're
in
> a
> > > hurry. He's _real social and likes meeting new people."
> >
> > "Could be interesting. Do I have to believe anything in particular
> for
> > this?"
>
> She shakes her head in disbelief. "A word to the wise, Ve-ho-e. Don't
> meddle with things you don't understand."

"Sorry, didn't mean to offend."
Charlie
> -Wildwind
> Luckily for you I have a conscience.
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In article
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Charlie <jonathan_downie.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Laurence wrote:
> > In article
> > <1106692891.354454.273990.DeleteThis@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
> > Charlie <jonathan_downie.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote:

> > > "The order said something about a nonorganic lifeform.
> > > Know of any?"
> >
> > "Non-organic? That eliminates everyone in here as far as I
> > can tell. And apart from the odd spirit or elemental I've
> > never met a totally nonorganic lifeform. I've met a few
> > beings that have come close though with all the cyber
> > they've stuffed into themselves."

> "I was told there was some sort of robotic spider. I have a
> contact called Wilf who said to give the spider, or was it
> spyder, 25000 1mm zinc pellets on a no downpayment deal."

"Robotic spider? That sounds interesting. I've often wondered if
my corp could have some intel gathering stuff made to closely
resemble insects.

If someone has made one I'll have to put it forward seriously."

> > > "Portal"

> > > Nothing happens.

> > > "ahem. PORTAL"

> > > More nothing happens.

> > Jonathon looks on interestedly.

> "It's really frustrating when this happens."

"Is it a common problem?"

> > > He turns back round.

> > > "erm, I appear to be stuck here for a while. Could you
> > > suggest something to make time pass quicker?"

> > "Well, if you tell a story you get a drink for free. After
> > that I think you have to buy them normally, or get someone
> > else to buy them for you.

> "I don't do anything normally. I'm not sure how much gold I
> have in storage. Hold on."

> He puts his suitcase on a table and opens it up.

> "Catalogue."

> A piece of yellowing paper appears in the main compartment.
> he shuts the case.

Jonathon watches the procedure.

> "Precious metals, precious metals. Ah, here we are. Silver,
> 3thou metric tons, bronze, figurines only, awaiting
> collection. Gold, one metric tons plus several gold objets
> d'art modelled on the Renaissance style. One life size gold
> model of the David statue, awaiting corresponding item. One
> miniature golden boat, out of sale time limit, not wanted by
> owner, reverts to company. Oh and one gold medallion.

> Would that be enough?"

"I doubt if inflation is that bad here. That amount of gold and
silver would keep most of the Centro drunk for several weeks,
and we have some very serious drinkers in there."

> I really must clear my stock."

"Sounds like a good idea. The one time I really needed to have a
large spending power without access to my normal credlines, I
bought up a lot of gemstones. It's amazing how little space a
million creds takes up in that form.

I had enough with me to have a large building built, to keep me
and the rest of the team in a luxury hotel for the best part of
the year it took to make sure the building would be built, buy
transport, hire drivers, just about everything really, and all
without putting any unsightly bulges in my suit.

I still tend to carry a few hundred thou in that form."

> > I'm sure you won't die of boredom."

> "Oh I have found plenty easier things to die from. Have you
> heard of the Ebola virus?"

Jonathon has to think for few seconds.

"Ebola. Mid to late 20th. Quite a nasty little bug. Not a patch
on the stuff that came later, but bad enough for the tech of the
time.

You contracted that stuff and survived?"

<Snip>

> > "I've not been in here long myself and it's rather chilly
> > out on the moors at this time of the year."

> Charlie gives him a wink.
> "Terribly cold things, moors."

"Especially on a winter's night."

Jonathon winks back.

> > > > "I'm Jonathon Young. Pleased to meet you."

> > > "Charlie Beener, trader at large."

> > "Part of the free enterprise system then?

> "It's only free enterprise when they pay me. My fee
> fluctuates with each deal."

"That's logical, it's almost impossible to calculate the risks
and cost to yourself until you know the deal."

> "I have been paid in gold, kind, food, vehicules, camels etc
> etc. One chief even wanted me to take his daughter as
> payment. Turned her down of course."

It might have been an idea to accept the first deal, there's
always a need for places you will be welcome without question,
and having such a place in the middle of Africa, well it could
be very useful for people who travel a lot. Not that I've done
much travelling outside Merseysprawl for the last few years."

> "Got some nice army fatigues instead. Poor germans."

"Whilst I deplore the loss of life that your comment indicates,
I do appreciate the skill that tribe must have shown to take out
a better armed group."

> > I prefer corporate dealings, but in my non-corporate life
> > I've bought and sold data and material with individuals.

> > Do you have a speciality or do you subscribe to that old
> > Ferengi law that opportunity plus instinct equals profit?"

> "I specialise in what my clients ask me to specialise in. I
> do corporate and individual trades. My favourite kind of deal
> is either a well-paid one of a difficult one. Usually they
> are one and the same."

"Oh yes."

Jonathon nods.

> "I like to find and trade rare things. I have a sideline as a
> military negotiator but that doesn't pay so well, gets
> dangerous too."

"Been there, done that, managed to avoid getting scars, so far."

> "To be honest, I don't usually do profits in the normal sense.
> mediums of exchange change in so many sectors that storing my
> wealth in any one resource would be foolishness."

"Understandable."

> I like to own land, tho'. Most of my oldest clients accept
> that throwing a few acres of prime arable or inner-city land
> will make me work that little bit harder."

"What's that old saying? Buy land, it's not being made any more?

That's not exactly true, we've managed to make a couple of
reasonable sized islands or extentions to existing land, but it
is very expensive."

> He winks. "I also tend to collect things that people forget to
> collect. There is a 30 day time limit on all deals. If the
> stuff gets trapped after that, it's mine."

"Reasonable."

<snip>

> > > "Interesting. How big is this 'corp'?"

> > "We're one of the biggest in the world, but also one of the
> > least known, mainly because we don't actually have any
> > manufacturing or administrative base in our own name. We run
> > on the Competitive Monopolization principle."

> "How does that principle go exactly?"

"Pick an area of manufacture or a specific service, for the sake
of arguement lets say it's Pocket Secretaries. We would slowly
and quietly buy control of nearly all the companies who make
these without letting them know they are all now owned by the
same corp. They all produce basically the same product with
memory, vidphone, appointment scheduling, all the regular stuff,
but each company is then encouraged to improve one or two areas.
Let's say that company A produces a ruggedised version that can
stop a 44 and keep going. Company B decides to produce a smaller
and lighter version with a styling that says, I've made it.
Company C goes for the youth market, their product has a larger
memory and a processor modified to handle trid files, and a case
which looks like it's fallen through a fight between Dali and
Picasso. Company D is for the wanabees, they make stuff which
looks like any of the above but internally is only a cheap basic
model and the price is lower. Obviously we own more than just
those four so a lot of the improvements overlap.

Each of these companies believes it's in competition with the
others so they work to keep costs down and profits high without
having to jack up the prices too much.

What the buyer sees is a wide range of products, each with
different advantages and drawbacks, and all of those with the
case and/or contents they are are really looking for are at
reasonable prices so they tend to buy from our companies rather
than the few independents that are left or one of the bland
clone machines that the corps make for themselves.

We don't make as much as we would if we were to run a straight
monopoly, but the companies are kept healthier becasue they are
still in competition with each other, the economy doesn't suffer
from there being only one supplier, and no one sees the strings.

There are other advantages. If one of the R&D departments makes
a breakthrough, the data is checked and if we can do so without
compromising the company that made the advance, we slip it to a
couple of the others which stimulates the rest to improve their
products as well. Plus the other corps look at the market, see a
lot of strong companies making the product, decide that there's
no way they're going to make a profit in a reasonable time, and
wander off looking for easier prey.

We do have to fight off the odd hostile takeover of one or two
of our subsidaries on occasion. But it's amazing how fast a corp
will back off when it suddenly finds itself facing ten times the
resistance it expected."

> > > Charlie swings his briefcase up and flips it open.

> > > "Got a few outstanding orders here. Nicolame IV needs 3
> > > kilotons of grain with enough trucks to ship them
> > > cross-country. i have an anonymous client who is looking
> > > for some kind of warhead but I can't make out what. Oh,
> > > and I have someone by the name of Nic who wants to sell
> > > panzers for grain, camera tripods and some artillery."

> > "The weapons I definitely can't help you with, G.A. have a
> > policy on that sort of deal, and you don't want to know what
> > they did to the last board member who transgressed that
> > particular rule.

> "Pity. It's amazing what you can get for weapons."

"They have their uses, but the other corps who do sell weapons
are constantly looking for new players moving into their turf,
and we don't want to start a major corpwar. Oh we have an
internal company or three making stuff for our own use, just
like any other corp, but we don't sell."

> > Transporters I could get you fairly easily, although we'd
> > have to get the grain itself elswhere. Perhaps we could
> > extend our links with another corporation that we've been
> > working closely with for the last few years to see what they
> > have, I know they're much more agronomic than we are. What
> > would Nicolame IV have to offer?"

> "He is a multi-dimension specialist and a monarch. He rules a
> small province just on the edge of some galaxy. He told me
> once that he has wormhole technology but I haven't seen it.
> He would be happy to trade the same kind of technology I have
> in my case here."

"It's certainly interesting. I'd have to check with the rest of
the Merseysprawl board and they'll probably bump it up to the ,

> "This thing is actually a portal of some sort. Whenever I put
> anything in it, it transports it to a storge facility that is
> slightly out of phase with the rest of our reality. It also
> includes psychic technology allowing me to recall objects by
> thought only. Although I like to speak it as well."

"Now that last bit of technology could be useful if we can adapt
it to other applications.

Is the system designed to be keyed to one user or can anyone
call it up?"

You can almost see Jonathon's brain making links.

> "The beauty of it is that the portal is totally adjustable. I
> can pull pretty much anything through just so long as I can
> imagine it fitting. It also includes an autocatalogue and
> retrieval system (ACRS2). It never needs organising by any
> human."

"Very handy. It would reduce our need for warehousing, although
it would also make the last run I Johnsoned rather difficult.

Sorry, I acted as a corp hirer of a small team. One of our
subsidiaries had an old warehouse that was full of old stuff
we'd collected in our intermittant disagreements with DNA plus a
load of old gear that was unsellable, and the site would be very
useful for one of the other subsidiaries to expand into. We
wanted to get rid of the DNA stuff in a way that they couldn't
recover it, and to reduce the security costs of stopping them
trying to snatch it back. We had seen a couple of their snoopers
in the area. The costs of doing this normally were prohibitive
though, so I hired this shadow team to torch the place claiming
to be working for one of the competitors of the company who
owned the warehouse.

By the time fire control were finished, half the cost of
demolition had been met by their work, most of the metals were
in a state suitable for recycling, and the local gov' were eager
to agree to the change in use of the site rather than have a
wreck on the edge of one of their improvement zones. Insurance
covered a lot of the rest of the cost and we also managed to
write off a lot of dead inventory so we paid less tax. The
runners were well paid so they'll be willing to work for me
again, pretty much a win-win situation."

> > Jonathon.
> > Don't worry, I'm not hungry. And I have a problem with
> > snacking on food that objects strongly. Smile

> Charlie
> I object very strongly to being eaten

Jonathon.
In that case we have no problem. Smile

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"Charlie" <jonathan_downie.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
> Wildwind wrote:
>> Charlie wrote:
>>
>>> "Okay then."
>>> Charlie thinks for a bit. He fingers a circular broch
>>> that hangs around his neck on a string. A big red ruby
>>> is haphazardly fixedto
>>> the centre. The metal is visibly rusting around the
>>> edges. "What about hos I got this? Would that get me a
>>> drink?"
>>
>> "Tell the tale and you'll find out."
>
> "Okay then. Are you sitting comfortably?"
> He laughs.

<snip story>

From the kitchen a chunky but well condition woman with short
gray hair emerges. "Sorry, I suddenly came down with a banging
headache and had to sit for a moment. It occasionally happens
when a Gate opens nearby," Jane says.

She looks up at Charlie. "Ah, a newcomer. I heard your story
through the door. You have earned yourself a free drink. What
will it be?"

-Jane Palanis
temporary barkeep
(sorry folks - nothing serious just life, you know?)
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