Howling fjord quests achievement

BombayMix <bombaymix.TakeThisOut@altavista.co.uk> wrote in
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>> For the two quests in the SE corner, I'm not sure. What do you have
>> to do ?
>
> At work so can't look it up or remember the names but..…..After the
> starting quests on the beach you get sent to a camp on top of cliff
> and do quests against those Viking like people. Well there's another
> town of them to the south and two Horde quest givers in a camp just
> the other side of it.

Thank you, I found them, and they gave me two quests : kill some people in
the village, and found three pieces of vyrkul litterature. Too bad there
was nothing to read, just "quest item".

So I was wrong about the number of quests, there is more than enough, even
if you don't count the "go there, talk to this guy" ones.
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cryptoguy <treifamily RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in
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>> So, my conclusion : there are more quests than needed to complete the
>> achievements, but these quests are the ones that you can bypass, and
>> so be unable to get. At least in howling fjord.

My conclusion here was wrong, since I found two more quests after finishing
the achievement.

> I use the wowwiki lists of quests - try 'Howling Fjord Quests' for
> example.

Yep, I did the same but with wowhead to found the murloc. I

> I work through an entire quest hub before I move onto the next.
> By the time I finished HF and Borean Tundra, I had dinged 74, and was
> able to solo nearly all the 'G3/G2 reccomended' quests.
>
> I'd be very surprised if doing things in the wrong order would lock
> you out of the acheivement.

It doesn't. I was wondering about the number of quests, if there were just
enough, or more than enough.

> Finding that murloc near the beach was difficult - I put accuarate
> coords into wowhead after I completed it.

Thanks, I used your coords, then
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I only barely got the 105 quests needed for the Horde in Howling
Fjord. I think I only did 2 or 3 quests after getting the
achievement.

Borean Tundra was a different story. When I got the 50 I needed, I
still had quite a few to go. Lost track of exactly how many I did
after getting the achievement. But that was much easier than Howling
Fjord was.

In Dragonblight now, up to 47 out of another 150 (I think).
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On Dec 2, 10:57 pm, gerryq <ger....RemoveThis@indigo.ie> wrote:
> On Dec 2, 2:47 pm, Matt <mateusz.woj....RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > "These quests are considered "breadcrumbs", Honker... burger. So if
> > you've already been to Stars' Rest in Dragonblight and taken Courier
> > Lanson's quest to fly to Wintergarde the Private Casey quest will no
> > longer be available.
>
> > We do not count breadcrumb quests toward zone achievements FYI."
>
> My impression is that they do in fact count them, but they only count
> one of a group of possible breadcrumb quests to a particular location.
>
> - Gerry Quinn

I had my tracking turned on for the Grizzly Hills quest achievement
last night, and the "go talk to X standing 4 feet from me" in the main
"inn" did indeed count as one quest on the tracker... if that helps
clear anything up. The next quest wasn't another breadcrumb, so I
don't know if it would count two in a row.
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On Dec 3, 8:09 am, DarkRose <swa... RemoveThis @rfiusa.com> wrote:
> On Dec 2, 10:57 pm, gerryq <ger... RemoveThis @indigo.ie> wrote:
>
> > On Dec 2, 2:47 pm, Matt <mateusz.woj... RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > "These quests are considered "breadcrumbs", Honker... burger. So if
> > > you've already been to Stars' Rest in Dragonblight and taken Courier
> > > Lanson's quest to fly to Wintergarde the Private Casey quest will no
> > > longer be available.
>
> > > We do not count breadcrumb quests toward zone achievements FYI."
>
> > My impression is that they do in fact count them, but they only count
> > one of a group of possible breadcrumb quests to a particular location.
>
> > - Gerry Quinn
>
> I had my tracking turned on for the Grizzly Hills quest achievement
> last night, and the "go talk to X standing 4 feet from me" in the main
> "inn" did indeed count as one quest on the tracker... if that helps
> clear anything up. The next quest wasn't another breadcrumb, so I
> don't know if it would count two in a row.

Well, did the other NPC have a quest for you before you did that
quest?

Breadcrumbs are quests that point you to another NPC, but not
necessary to do the quests the other NPC has.

If the other NPC 4 feet away didn't have any quests for you before you
did this quest, then this isn't a bread crumb, this is the original
NPC passing off the duties of assigning quests to you. The chain
can't continue unless you walk 4 feet and talk to the other NPC.
Completing this quest unlocked further quests, and so should have
counted towards the achievement.

If the quest was the end of the chain as well, giving you the ultimate
award for that chain of quests, it also would have counted, as its not
leading you to another quest giver.

If completing this quest wasn't the end of a chain, or didn't unlock
any new quests, then it was a breadcrumb quest meant to point you to a
new location with new quests. Breadcrumb quests typically don't
involve talking to someone only a few feet away. A good example would
be a quest to travel from Warsong Hold to Taunka'le Village. The
quests at Taunka'le are completable even if you never did the quest to
travel there.

Simply put, a 'go talk to this guy' quest isn't necessarily a
breadcrumb.
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On Dec 3, 8:50 am, lcpltom <lcpl....TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Dec 3, 8:09 am, DarkRose <swa....TakeThisOut@rfiusa.com> wrote:
>
>
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>
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> > On Dec 2, 10:57 pm, gerryq <ger....TakeThisOut@indigo.ie> wrote:
>
> > > On Dec 2, 2:47 pm, Matt <mateusz.woj....TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > "These quests are considered "breadcrumbs", Honker... burger. So if
> > > > you've already been to Stars' Rest in Dragonblight and taken Courier
> > > > Lanson's quest to fly to Wintergarde the Private Casey quest will no
> > > > longer be available.
>
> > > > We do not count breadcrumb quests toward zone achievements FYI."
>
> > > My impression is that they do in fact count them, but they only count
> > > one of a group of possible breadcrumb quests to a particular location..
>
> > > - Gerry Quinn
>
> > I had my tracking turned on for the Grizzly Hills quest achievement
> > last night, and the "go talk to X standing 4 feet from me" in the main
> > "inn" did indeed count as one quest on the tracker... if that helps
> > clear anything up. The next quest wasn't another breadcrumb, so I
> > don't know if it would count two in a row.
>
> Well, did the other NPC have a quest for you before you did that
> quest?
>
> Breadcrumbs are quests that point you to another NPC, but not
> necessary to do the quests the other NPC has.
>
> If the other NPC 4 feet away didn't have any quests for you before you
> did this quest, then this isn't a bread crumb, this is the original
> NPC passing off the duties of assigning quests to you.  The chain
> can't continue unless you walk 4 feet and talk to the other NPC.
> Completing this quest unlocked further quests, and so should have
> counted towards the achievement.
>
> If the quest was the end of the chain as well, giving you the ultimate
> award for that chain of quests, it also would have counted, as its not
> leading you to another quest giver.
>
> If completing this quest wasn't the end of a chain, or didn't unlock
> any new quests, then it was a breadcrumb quest meant to point you to a
> new location with new quests.  Breadcrumb quests typically don't
> involve talking to someone only a few feet away.  A good example would
> be a quest to travel from Warsong Hold to Taunka'le Village.  The
> quests at Taunka'le are completable even if you never did the quest to
> travel there.
>
> Simply put, a 'go talk to this guy' quest isn't necessarily a
> breadcrumb.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Ah, ok, yeah. She didn't have any quest marker over here before I went
and talked to her... I should have paid more attention when I got sent
from Conquest Hold to.... whatever Village, because I talked to the
dude there and he had no more quests for me, but didn't pay attention
to whether or not it counted...
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Lancelet wrote:
> My orc hunter started in howling fjord, and wandered around a lot, doing
> quests.
>
> At last, I only had the quest series with the worg disguise. I liked this
> disguise, so I kept the quest until the end. After finishing it, I was
> still one or two quests away of the 105 quests achievements.

Horde quests for the achievement in Howling Fjord: 105.

Alliance quests for the achievement in Howling Fjord: 130.

As Furio Giunta in _The Sopranos_ says, "Don't bitch to me."

--
Christopher Adams
Sydney, Australia

When you came in, the air went out
And every shadow filled up with doubt
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On 3 Dec, 23:27, Christopher Adams <mhacdebhan....RemoveThis@invalid.com> wrote:
> Lancelet wrote:
> > My orc hunter started in howling fjord, and wandered around a lot, doing
> > quests.
>
> > At last, I only had the quest series with the worg disguise. I liked this
> > disguise, so I kept the quest until the end. After finishing it, I was
> > still one or two quests away of the 105 quests achievements.
>
> Horde quests for the achievement in Howling Fjord: 105.
>
> Alliance quests for the achievement in Howling Fjord: 130.

I guess that it's no harder for Alliance to do 130 quests than it is
for Horde to do 105. It'll just mean that you have more quests
available to you and it'll take a little longer.


> As Furio Giunta in _The Sopranos_ says, "Don't bitch to me."

I will bitch to you! I'm horde so I have 105 quests to do but
none have registered so far - I must have done 20 or 30 and it's still
listed as 0/105. I guess that I'll need to open a ticket.

steve.kaye
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I think it was "steve.kaye" <nospam.TakeThisOut@giddy-kippers.co.uk> that wrote
something like...

>On 3 Dec, 23:27, Christopher Adams <mhacdebhan....TakeThisOut@invalid.com> wrote:
>> Lancelet wrote:
>> > My orc hunter started in howling fjord, and wandered around a lot, doing
>> > quests.
>>
>> > At last, I only had the quest series with the worg disguise. I liked this
>> > disguise, so I kept the quest until the end. After finishing it, I was
>> > still one or two quests away of the 105 quests achievements.
>>
>> Horde quests for the achievement in Howling Fjord: 105.
>>
>> Alliance quests for the achievement in Howling Fjord: 130.
>
>I guess that it's no harder for Alliance to do 130 quests than it is
>for Horde to do 105. It'll just mean that you have more quests
>available to you and it'll take a little longer.

Well, it could be more work/take longer for the Alliance, but then in
another zone it might go the other way as I think Blizzard balance the
two sides more by quest xp than anything else. At least I believe
they used to as I recall hearing that back in vanilla WoW the horde
had a really simple, travel all over the continent and visit npc's and
such quest that gave tons of xp as a way to catch them up with the
Alliance quests.
Of course, that was years ago, so they might be doing things a bit
differently now. : )

Ashen Shugar
--
The lions sing and the hills take flight.
The moon by day, and the sun by night.
Blind woman, deaf man, jackdaw fool.
Let the Lord of Chaos rule!
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Ashen Shugar wrote:
>
> Well, it could be more work/take longer for the Alliance, but then in
> another zone it might go the other way

BOREAN TUNDRA
Alliance 130
Horde 150

DRAGONBLIGHT
Alliance 115
Horde 130

GRIZZLY HILLS
Alliance 85
Horde 75

HOWLING FJORD
Alliance 130
Horde 105

ICECROWN
Both 140

SHOLAZAR BASIN
Both 140

STORM PEAKS
Both 100

ZUL'DRAK
Both 100

So actually no-one has it easier; it's 940 quests for each.

However, zone-by-zone, Alliance has the greatest margin of difference: a
25-quest difference in the Howling Fjord, compared to a 20-quest
difference in Dragonblight.

--
Christopher Adams
Sydney, Australia

When you came in, the air went out
And every shadow filled up with doubt
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