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Brian

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 11:55 pm
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I'm trying to get MAME to run on a P3 1ghz (maybe) computer. The
sound works sometimes and then sometimes is really messed up. I've got
a few version of mame installled going back to about 3 years as well as
the newest mame32. They all suffer from the same problem.

I'm not a pc expert so I was hoping someone could give some advise, or
is this just a case where the computer is to old.

I'm running Win98

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Roy Cashman

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 3:22 pm
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SuperMappy wrote:
> Brian wrote:
>> I'm trying to get MAME to run on a P3 1ghz (maybe) computer. The
>> sound works sometimes and then sometimes is really messed up. I've
>> got a few version of mame installled going back to about 3 years as
>> well as the newest mame32. They all suffer from the same problem.
>>
>> I'm not a pc expert so I was hoping someone could give some advise, or
>> is this just a case where the computer is to old.
>>
>> I'm running Win98
>>
>
> I have found on slower systems if you use both onboard sound and onboard
> video, this can cause the sound to be messed up. All I did was put a
> cheap sound card in and it worked just fine.
>
that worked for me to

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Mydnight

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 7:18 pm
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Brian wrote:
> I'm trying to get MAME to run on a P3 1ghz (maybe) computer. The
> sound works sometimes and then sometimes is really messed up. I've got
> a few version of mame installled going back to about 3 years as well as
> the newest mame32. They all suffer from the same problem.
>
> I'm not a pc expert so I was hoping someone could give some advise, or
> is this just a case where the computer is to old.
>
> I'm running Win98

Had the same problem when I was running mame on a 75megahertz (wow)
computer back in 95. I found that it corresponded to framerate. I
didn't have very much RAM, so the sound ended up sounding bad when I
tried to play certain games that required more of my system's
resources. Try to get some more RAM and see what that does for you.
Maybe also try updating your drivers.
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DeadlyDad

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 2:55 am
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SuperSnappy wrote:
> Mydnight wrote:
>
>> Brian wrote:
>>
>>> I'm trying to get MAME to run on a P3 1ghz (maybe) computer. The
>>> sound works sometimes and then sometimes is really messed up. I've got
>>> a few version of mame installled going back to about 3 years as well as
>>> the newest mame32. They all suffer from the same problem.
>>>
>>> I'm not a pc expert so I was hoping someone could give some advise, or
>>> is this just a case where the computer is to old.
>>>
>>> I'm running Win98
>>
>>
>>
>> Had the same problem when I was running mame on a 75megahertz (wow)
>> computer back in 95. I found that it corresponded to framerate. I
>> didn't have very much RAM, so the sound ended up sounding bad when I
>> tried to play certain games that required more of my system's
>> resources. Try to get some more RAM and see what that does for you.
>> Maybe also try updating your drivers.
>>
>
> My first pc was a p1 75 Mhz. I remember when I upgraded to a 133Mhz. it
> was the greatest thing in the world.
>

Good /LORD/ I feel old! I remember how excited I was when the school's
][+ got an uppercase chip! My first IBM PC /was/ an IBM PC! /Man/, but
was GWBASIC a step up from Applesoft BASIC! And the 5MB HD & 8087 chip
I eventually got when I upgraded to an XT - Glee! No more floppy-swap
and my programs ran sooooo much faster. <SIGH> Those were the days.....

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Ian Rawlings

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 2:55 am
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On 2006-07-22, DeadlyDad <XXXDeadlyDad.TakeThisOut@gmail.comXXX> wrote:

> Good /LORD/ I feel old! I remember how excited I was when the school's
> ][+ got an uppercase chip! My first IBM PC /was/ an IBM PC!

Just 'cos someone's first PC was a P75 doesn't mean they're not in
long trousers yet, it could just mean they gave in to the clones a lot
later than you.

First computer I used was a commode PET, then BBC A, then BBC B, first
I owned was a Spectrum 48K, then Atari ST, then Amiga, then Acorn
Archimedes, and only when Linux was mature did I shift to PCs, a P75
with 16 megs of RAM. Never owned a windows box until the last few
years, and even those are VMWare partitions.

> /Man/, but was GWBASIC a step up from Applesoft BASIC! And the 5MB
> HD & 8087 chip I eventually got when I upgraded to an XT - Glee! No
> more floppy-swap and my programs ran sooooo much faster. <SIGH>
> Those were the days.....

So you think the step from floppy to hard disc was big? Did you skip
the whole "saving to audio tape" lark then? I can remember marvelling
at the ST with its whole 720K floppy, what luxury! Then with the
*two* floppies on my Amiga, wow! Then the 40 meg hard disc on my
Archimedes, followed a year or so later by a DC6150 SCSI tape drive to
transfer porn from University to home.

While sometimes it seems that the magic has gone, looking at things
like Asterisk makes me feel like it's still around, it looks like fun.

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DeadlyDad

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 3:55 am
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Ian Rawlings wrote:
> On 2006-07-22, DeadlyDad <XXXDeadlyDad.DeleteThis@gmail.comXXX> wrote:
>
>
>>Good /LORD/ I feel old! I remember how excited I was when the school's
>>][+ got an uppercase chip! My first IBM PC /was/ an IBM PC!
>
>
> Just 'cos someone's first PC was a P75 doesn't mean they're not in
> long trousers yet, it could just mean they gave in to the clones a lot
> later than you.
>
> First computer I used was a commode PET, then BBC A, then BBC B, first
> I owned was a Spectrum 48K, then Atari ST, then Amiga, then Acorn
> Archimedes, and only when Linux was mature did I shift to PCs, a P75
> with 16 megs of RAM. Never owned a windows box until the last few
> years, and even those are VMWare partitions.
>
>
>> /Man/, but was GWBASIC a step up from Applesoft BASIC! And the 5MB
>>HD & 8087 chip I eventually got when I upgraded to an XT - Glee! No
>>more floppy-swap and my programs ran sooooo much faster. <SIGH>
>>Those were the days.....
>
>
> So you think the step from floppy to hard disc was big? Did you skip
> the whole "saving to audio tape" lark then? I can remember marvelling
> at the ST with its whole 720K floppy, what luxury! Then with the
> *two* floppies on my Amiga, wow! Then the 40 meg hard disc on my
> Archimedes, followed a year or so later by a DC6150 SCSI tape drive to
> transfer porn from University to home.
>
> While sometimes it seems that the magic has gone, looking at things
> like Asterisk makes me feel like it's still around, it looks like fun.
>

That was just my first /IBM/ PC or compatible. My /first/ computer was
a DIY rig my brother gave me for Christmas in the late '70s. (Though I
never /did/ get it working.....) I have owned or at least programmed
almost every computer that came along. I even had a TI 99/4A with the
expansion box that housed a floppy drive, serial and parallel
interfaces, and a 32K RAM expansion. I dug it out again when the 486
was king just to log into a local BBS (using an ooooold Gandalf modem
and my own ANSI terminal program) and brag about being able to do it.

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Ian Rawlings

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 5:55 am
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On 2006-07-22, DeadlyDad <XXXDeadlyDad RemoveThis @gmail.comXXX> wrote:

> That was just my first /IBM/ PC or compatible. My /first/ computer was
> a DIY rig my brother gave me for Christmas in the late '70s.

OK, consider yourself officially old. My first "computer" was a
Milton Bradley BigTrak, of which I now have two examples, including
tipping trailer Wink

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MCR

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 7:55 pm
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Ian Rawlings <news05.DeleteThis@tarcus.org.uk> wrote in news:slrnec3odm.ck6.news05
@desktop.tarcus.org.uk:

> On 2006-07-22, DeadlyDad <XXXDeadlyDad.DeleteThis@gmail.comXXX> wrote:
>
>> That was just my first /IBM/ PC or compatible. My /first/ computer
was
>> a DIY rig my brother gave me for Christmas in the late '70s.
>
> OK, consider yourself officially old. My first "computer" was a
> Milton Bradley BigTrak, of which I now have two examples, including
> tipping trailer Wink
>

I had a BigTrak... that was a cool toy. My first computer was a
Sinclair ZX-81, the spectrum+ then spectrum 128, then Atari ST, Then
commodore Amiga A500, then the 500+, then I bought A DX2/66 PC with DOS
6.22 and WFW 3.11. I then upgraded to a P1 166, which I thought was
blisteringly fast and found MAME about the same time.

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MCR

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 7:55 pm
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Andreas Kohlbach <ankman DeleteThis @email.com> wrote in
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> SuperMappy wrote on 22. July 2006:
>>
>> My first pc was a p1 75 Mhz. I remember when I upgraded to a
>> 133Mhz. it was the greatest thing in the world.
>
> My first was a 133 MHz (wow, tomorrow exactly 10 years ago I got my
> first PC after Amiga and Commodore 64 before). The greatest thing was
> to upgrade from 16 MB ram to 32 MB. Wow, what a boost performance!
>
> Today if you still had 32 MB you'd be totally lost. But if you had 32
> MB for your Amiga in 1987 you'd be rich! I recall an additional 256 KB
> (or was it 512 KB?) RAM for it was about 200$!

I remember buying an official Commodore RAM pack as it contained the
real-time clock... come to think of it, dunno why I bothered as it was
only used to play games, but the RAM was good at the time!

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 11:55 am
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Riccardo Cretti <squadron76.DeleteThis@jumpy.it> wrote in
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> MCR wrote:
>> Andreas Kohlbach <ankman.DeleteThis@email.com> wrote in
>>
news:only_broken_newsreaders_show_this_in_the_body.87irlp21g1.fsf@usenet
>> ..
>> ankman.de:
>>
>>> SuperMappy wrote on 22. July 2006:
>>>> My first pc was a p1 75 Mhz. I remember when I upgraded to a
>>>> 133Mhz. it was the greatest thing in the world.
>>> My first was a 133 MHz (wow, tomorrow exactly 10 years ago I got my
>>> first PC after Amiga and Commodore 64 before). The greatest thing
was
>>> to upgrade from 16 MB ram to 32 MB. Wow, what a boost performance!
>>>
>>> Today if you still had 32 MB you'd be totally lost. But if you had
32
>>> MB for your Amiga in 1987 you'd be rich! I recall an additional 256
KB
>>> (or was it 512 KB?) RAM for it was about 200$!
>>
>> I remember buying an official Commodore RAM pack as it contained the
>> real-time clock... come to think of it, dunno why I bothered as it
was
>> only used to play games, but the RAM was good at the time!
>
> I remember I bought the official 512Kb expansion for Amiga 500 to be
> able to play with Lotus Esprit Turbo Challenge... the game was
> brilliant, especially played 2 players together! Smile
>

I too remember that game.. I found it excellent. If I remember rightly,
didnt Lotus Esprit Turbo Challenge 2 have a track editor?

Its laughable that my graphics card has 10x the memory of my expanded
Amiga...

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Ian Rawlings

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(Msg. 11) Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 4:55 am
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On 2006-07-25, SuperMappy <supermappy.RemoveThis@REMOVETHIScolumbus.rr.com> wrote:

> I got that 512Kb expansion to play the FTL classic "Dungeon Master". Oh
> the sleep I lost playing that game!

Was that the one that was released on the Atari ST first? When I
mistakenly bought an ST I sold it 6 months later for half the price I
bought it for just to get rid of it quick to move to an Amiga.
Dungeon Master or a very similar looking game was the reason the buyer
wanted the ST and not the Amiga as it wasn't available on any other
platform at the time.

As an aside, the game was played by a fair few people down at a place
called "compucade" in Southampton, a place well ahead of its time.
This was back in the time when the ST/Amiga were only just trickling
out of the states, they had 10 of them and a host of other exotic
games systems, e.g. FM Towns and the then current Nintendo/Sega
systems, in a large place. At the time, home users were mostly still
making do with Spectrums and Commodore 64s.

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