Hero Cramming

On Tue, 25 May 2004 22:53:36 -0400, Michael Sears
<armitageNOSPAM.RemoveThis@mhcable.com> wrote:

>David Johnston wrote:
>> Just out of curiousity, did they change Cramming at all with the new
>> rules?
>
>Reclassified as an Intellect Skill.
>5 points.
>Several hours of study to gain Familiarity with a Skill (8- roll), a 1
>point language, or a 1 point Skill (e.g. Transport Familiarity, Weapon
>Familiarity).
>Last for one adventure, then forgotten.
>Roll can't be improved.

So, still useless then.
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On Wed, 26 May 2004 03:24:54 GMT, rgormannospam.TakeThisOut@telusplanet.net (David
Johnston) wrote:

>On Tue, 25 May 2004 22:53:36 -0400, Michael Sears
><armitageNOSPAM.TakeThisOut@mhcable.com> wrote:
>
>>David Johnston wrote:
>>> Just out of curiousity, did they change Cramming at all with the new
>>> rules?
>>
>>Reclassified as an Intellect Skill.
>>5 points.
>>Several hours of study to gain Familiarity with a Skill (8- roll), a 1
>>point language, or a 1 point Skill (e.g. Transport Familiarity, Weapon
>>Familiarity).
>>Last for one adventure, then forgotten.
>>Roll can't be improved.
>
>So, still useless then.

Being able to pick up the basics of a language at need or a vehicle op
familiarity is anything but useless.
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rgormannospam DeleteThis @telusplanet.net (David Johnston) wrote in message news:<40b402c9.41283752 DeleteThis @news.telusplanet.net>...
> On Tue, 25 May 2004 22:53:36 -0400, Michael Sears
> <armitageNOSPAM DeleteThis @mhcable.com> wrote:
>
> >David Johnston wrote:
> >> Just out of curiousity, did they change Cramming at all with the new
> >> rules?
> >
> >Reclassified as an Intellect Skill.
> >5 points.
> >Several hours of study to gain Familiarity with a Skill (8- roll), a 1
> >point language, or a 1 point Skill (e.g. Transport Familiarity, Weapon
> >Familiarity).
> >Last for one adventure, then forgotten.
> >Roll can't be improved.
>
> So, still useless then.

Has anyone ever considered the possiblities of combining Cramming with
Speed Reading and Eidetic Memory? I figure it is the kind of thing
that the GM will say No too as he beats you into a pulp...
Ken
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Wayne Shaw wrote:
> On Wed, 26 May 2004 03:24:54 GMT, rgormannospam RemoveThis @telusplanet.net (David
> Johnston) wrote:
>>So, still useless then.
>
> Being able to pick up the basics of a language at need or a vehicle op
> familiarity is anything but useless.

Didn't FRED also clarify that it's possible to take Cramming
more than once, and thus cram more than one skill prior to each
session/adventure?

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In article <c9mas0$old$1@news.cybercity.dk>,
Peter Knutsen <peter.TakeThisOut@knutsen.dk> wrote:

> Wayne Shaw wrote:
> > On Wed, 26 May 2004 03:24:54 GMT, rgormannospam.TakeThisOut@telusplanet.net (David
> > Johnston) wrote:
> >>So, still useless then.
> >
> > Being able to pick up the basics of a language at need or a vehicle op
> > familiarity is anything but useless.
>
> Didn't FRED also clarify that it's possible to take Cramming
> more than once, and thus cram more than one skill prior to each
> session/adventure?

Yes.

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On Thu, 03 Jun 2004 06:55:19 +0200, Peter Knutsen <peter RemoveThis @knutsen.dk>
wrote:

>
>Wayne Shaw wrote:
>> On Wed, 26 May 2004 03:24:54 GMT, rgormannospam RemoveThis @telusplanet.net (David
>> Johnston) wrote:
>>>So, still useless then.
>>
>> Being able to pick up the basics of a language at need or a vehicle op
>> familiarity is anything but useless.
>
>Didn't FRED also clarify that it's possible to take Cramming
>more than once, and thus cram more than one skill prior to each
>session/adventure?

Yes. Though if you aren't impressed by skill familiarities, you
probably aren't impressed by getting more than one of them.
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"David Johnston" <rgormannospam.TakeThisOut@telusplanet.net> wrote in message
news:40b402c9.41283752@news.telusplanet.net...
> On Tue, 25 May 2004 22:53:36 -0400, Michael Sears
> <armitageNOSPAM.TakeThisOut@mhcable.com> wrote:
>
> >David Johnston wrote:
> >> Just out of curiousity, did they change Cramming at all with the new
> >> rules?
> >
> >Reclassified as an Intellect Skill.
> >5 points.
> >Several hours of study to gain Familiarity with a Skill (8- roll), a 1
> >point language, or a 1 point Skill (e.g. Transport Familiarity, Weapon
> >Familiarity).
> >Last for one adventure, then forgotten.
> >Roll can't be improved.
>
> So, still useless then.

Yeah, still useless. Though I interpret the "roll can't be improved" rule to
mean, as far as my own games go, that you can't *buy* it higher - Skill
Levels still apply. This is because I like the idea of being able to have
several switchable skills that can be at, say, 10-. I really wouldn't allow
a PC to be able to crank it higher than 11- with SLs; if you want a skill
that good, buy the frelling skill.
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In article <eJUvc.14289$hM4.14284@twister.socal.rr.com>,
clebron.DeleteThis@san.rr.com says...
> "David Johnston" <rgormannospam.DeleteThis@telusplanet.net> wrote in message
> news:40b402c9.41283752@news.telusplanet.net...
> > On Tue, 25 May 2004 22:53:36 -0400, Michael Sears
> > <armitageNOSPAM.DeleteThis@mhcable.com> wrote:
> >
> > >David Johnston wrote:
> > >> Just out of curiousity, did they change Cramming at all with the new
> > >> rules?
> > >
> > >Reclassified as an Intellect Skill.
> > >5 points.
> > >Several hours of study to gain Familiarity with a Skill (8- roll), a 1
> > >point language, or a 1 point Skill (e.g. Transport Familiarity, Weapon
> > >Familiarity).
> > >Last for one adventure, then forgotten.
> > >Roll can't be improved.
> >
> > So, still useless then.
>
> Yeah, still useless. Though I interpret the "roll can't be improved" rule to
> mean, as far as my own games go, that you can't *buy* it higher - Skill
> Levels still apply.

You can't add skill levels to a familiarity at all, not even if
you pay points for it.

> This is because I like the idea of being able to have
> several switchable skills that can be at, say, 10-.

To do that you need a multipower or VPP, (and GM permission).

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"Rick Pikul" <rwpikul.RemoveThis@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:MPG.1b2b19c96efc708c98977e@news.supernews.com...
> In article <eJUvc.14289$hM4.14284@twister.socal.rr.com>,
> clebron.RemoveThis@san.rr.com says...
> > "David Johnston" <rgormannospam.RemoveThis@telusplanet.net> wrote in message
> > news:40b402c9.41283752@news.telusplanet.net...
> > > On Tue, 25 May 2004 22:53:36 -0400, Michael Sears
> > > <armitageNOSPAM.RemoveThis@mhcable.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >David Johnston wrote:
> > > >> Just out of curiousity, did they change Cramming at all with the
new
> > > >> rules?
> > > >
> > > >Reclassified as an Intellect Skill.
> > > >5 points.
> > > >Several hours of study to gain Familiarity with a Skill (8- roll), a
1
> > > >point language, or a 1 point Skill (e.g. Transport Familiarity,
Weapon
> > > >Familiarity).
> > > >Last for one adventure, then forgotten.
> > > >Roll can't be improved.
> > >
> > > So, still useless then.
> >
> > Yeah, still useless. Though I interpret the "roll can't be improved"
rule to
> > mean, as far as my own games go, that you can't *buy* it higher - Skill
> > Levels still apply.
>
> You can't add skill levels to a familiarity at all, not even if
> you pay points for it.

I know this. I just disagree with it. I see the point (as I understand it)
of the Cramming skill, but I feel it can be broadened a bit, provided you
keep an eye on it and don't let things get too out of hand.

> > This is because I like the idea of being able to have
> > several switchable skills that can be at, say, 10-.
>
> To do that you need a multipower or VPP, (and GM permission).

Or to change the rules. -shrugs- Frankly, I'd want a *really* good reason
why you'd want a Cramming slot at that level on your character, and would
probably want it limited in some way.

Besides, if I were to go with a VPP, it would probably cost about the same,
or maybe a *little* bit more. Your pool would be about 5-7 pts, and your
control cost would be reduced so hard it would cost 1 pt.

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Chris
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