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(Msg. 31) Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 8:39 pm
Post subject: Re: How Hard is it? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Sun, 05 Nov 2006 03:10:57 GMT, "reborn rolla" <zzrollazz.TakeThisOut@King2.com>
wrote:
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> Say once you have made the complete mission couldn't you just play it
>through yourself to test it? Instead of getting 5 beta testers to preview
>it.
>
This would work if you are infallible, but the very best of the
existing authors always use several testers because:
Some missions work OK on one set of hardware and fail on another.
Players approach a mission in different ways - a mission that works
OK if played the way the author intended may crash horribly if
something different is tried. Remember the old adage - you never
find all the bugs!
So for testing I would recommend at least 5 testers, ranging from
experienced through to newbie, and including at least one DromEder .
Several testers = several hardware combinations = several play styles. |
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(Msg. 32) Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 1:49 am
Post subject: Re: How Hard is it? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"Spud" wrote:
> On Sun, 05 Nov 2006 03:10:57 GMT, "reborn rolla" <zzrollazz RemoveThis @King2.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Say once you have made the complete mission couldn't you just play it
>>through yourself to test it? Instead of getting 5 beta testers to preview
>>it.
>>
>
> This would work if you are infallible, but the very best of the
> existing authors always use several testers because:
>
> Some missions work OK on one set of hardware and fail on another.
> Players approach a mission in different ways - a mission that works
> OK if played the way the author intended may crash horribly if
> something different is tried. Remember the old adage - you never
> find all the bugs!
>
> So for testing I would recommend at least 5 testers, ranging from
> experienced through to newbie, and including at least one DromEder .
> Several testers = several hardware combinations = several play styles.
Thanks for the explanation. I want to make a mission with no un-dead,
zombies, "we're gonna have fun gutting you" black guards, hidden in
ridiculous places switches, 132 scrolls or books or notes to read, large
spiders etc.
My ideal mission would be a huge castle and.... |
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(Msg. 33) Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 1:49 am
Post subject: Re: How Hard is it? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"Spud" wrote:
> On Sun, 05 Nov 2006 03:10:57 GMT, "reborn rolla" <zzrollazz.DeleteThis@King2.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Say once you have made the complete mission couldn't you just play it
>>through yourself to test it? Instead of getting 5 beta testers to preview
>>it.
>>
>
> This would work if you are infallible, but the very best of the
> existing authors always use several testers because:
>
> Some missions work OK on one set of hardware and fail on another.
> Players approach a mission in different ways - a mission that works
> OK if played the way the author intended may crash horribly if
> something different is tried. Remember the old adage - you never
> find all the bugs!
>
> So for testing I would recommend at least 5 testers, ranging from
> experienced through to newbie, and including at least one DromEder .
> Several testers = several hardware combinations = several play styles.
Thanks for the explanation. I want to make a mission with no un-dead,
zombies, "we're gonna have fun gutting you" black guards, hidden in
ridiculous places switches, 132 scrolls or books or notes to read, large
spiders etc.
My ideal mission would be a huge castle and.... >> Stay informed about: How Hard is it? |
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(Msg. 34) Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 1:49 am
Post subject: Re: How Hard is it? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"Spud" wrote:
> On Sun, 05 Nov 2006 03:10:57 GMT, "reborn rolla" <zzrollazz DeleteThis @King2.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Say once you have made the complete mission couldn't you just play it
>>through yourself to test it? Instead of getting 5 beta testers to preview
>>it.
>>
>
> This would work if you are infallible, but the very best of the
> existing authors always use several testers because:
>
> Some missions work OK on one set of hardware and fail on another.
> Players approach a mission in different ways - a mission that works
> OK if played the way the author intended may crash horribly if
> something different is tried. Remember the old adage - you never
> find all the bugs!
>
> So for testing I would recommend at least 5 testers, ranging from
> experienced through to newbie, and including at least one DromEder .
> Several testers = several hardware combinations = several play styles.
Thanks for the explanation. I want to make a mission with no un-dead,
zombies, "we're gonna have fun gutting you" black guards, hidden in
ridiculous places switches, 132 scrolls or books or notes to read, large
spiders etc.
My ideal mission would be a huge castle and.... >> Stay informed about: How Hard is it? |
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(Msg. 35) Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 1:49 am
Post subject: Re: How Hard is it? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"Spud" wrote:
> On Sun, 05 Nov 2006 03:10:57 GMT, "reborn rolla" <zzrollazz DeleteThis @King2.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Say once you have made the complete mission couldn't you just play it
>>through yourself to test it? Instead of getting 5 beta testers to preview
>>it.
>>
>
> This would work if you are infallible, but the very best of the
> existing authors always use several testers because:
>
> Some missions work OK on one set of hardware and fail on another.
> Players approach a mission in different ways - a mission that works
> OK if played the way the author intended may crash horribly if
> something different is tried. Remember the old adage - you never
> find all the bugs!
>
> So for testing I would recommend at least 5 testers, ranging from
> experienced through to newbie, and including at least one DromEder .
> Several testers = several hardware combinations = several play styles.
Thanks for the explanation. I want to make a mission with no un-dead,
zombies, "we're gonna have fun gutting you" black guards, hidden in
ridiculous places switches, 132 scrolls or books or notes to read, large
spiders etc.
My ideal mission would be a huge castle and.... >> Stay informed about: How Hard is it? |
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(Msg. 36) Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 1:49 am
Post subject: Re: How Hard is it? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"Spud" wrote:
> On Sun, 05 Nov 2006 03:10:57 GMT, "reborn rolla" <zzrollazz.RemoveThis@King2.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Say once you have made the complete mission couldn't you just play it
>>through yourself to test it? Instead of getting 5 beta testers to preview
>>it.
>>
>
> This would work if you are infallible, but the very best of the
> existing authors always use several testers because:
>
> Some missions work OK on one set of hardware and fail on another.
> Players approach a mission in different ways - a mission that works
> OK if played the way the author intended may crash horribly if
> something different is tried. Remember the old adage - you never
> find all the bugs!
>
> So for testing I would recommend at least 5 testers, ranging from
> experienced through to newbie, and including at least one DromEder .
> Several testers = several hardware combinations = several play styles.
Thanks for the explanation. I want to make a mission with no un-dead,
zombies, "we're gonna have fun gutting you" black guards, hidden in
ridiculous places switches, 132 scrolls or books or notes to read, large
spiders etc.
My ideal mission would be a huge castle and.... >> Stay informed about: How Hard is it? |
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(Msg. 37) Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 1:49 am
Post subject: Re: How Hard is it? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"Spud" wrote:
> On Sun, 05 Nov 2006 03:10:57 GMT, "reborn rolla" <zzrollazz RemoveThis @King2.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Say once you have made the complete mission couldn't you just play it
>>through yourself to test it? Instead of getting 5 beta testers to preview
>>it.
>>
>
> This would work if you are infallible, but the very best of the
> existing authors always use several testers because:
>
> Some missions work OK on one set of hardware and fail on another.
> Players approach a mission in different ways - a mission that works
> OK if played the way the author intended may crash horribly if
> something different is tried. Remember the old adage - you never
> find all the bugs!
>
> So for testing I would recommend at least 5 testers, ranging from
> experienced through to newbie, and including at least one DromEder .
> Several testers = several hardware combinations = several play styles.
Thanks for the explanation. I want to make a mission with no un-dead,
zombies, "we're gonna have fun gutting you" black guards, hidden in
ridiculous places switches, 132 scrolls or books or notes to read, large
spiders etc.
My ideal mission would be a huge castle and.... >> Stay informed about: How Hard is it? |
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(Msg. 38) Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 1:49 am
Post subject: Re: How Hard is it? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"Spud" wrote:
> On Sun, 05 Nov 2006 03:10:57 GMT, "reborn rolla" <zzrollazz.DeleteThis@King2.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Say once you have made the complete mission couldn't you just play it
>>through yourself to test it? Instead of getting 5 beta testers to preview
>>it.
>>
>
> This would work if you are infallible, but the very best of the
> existing authors always use several testers because:
>
> Some missions work OK on one set of hardware and fail on another.
> Players approach a mission in different ways - a mission that works
> OK if played the way the author intended may crash horribly if
> something different is tried. Remember the old adage - you never
> find all the bugs!
>
> So for testing I would recommend at least 5 testers, ranging from
> experienced through to newbie, and including at least one DromEder .
> Several testers = several hardware combinations = several play styles.
Thanks for the explanation. I want to make a mission with no un-dead,
zombies, "we're gonna have fun gutting you" black guards, hidden in
ridiculous places switches, 132 scrolls or books or notes to read, large
spiders etc.
My ideal mission would be a huge castle and.... >> Stay informed about: How Hard is it? |
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(Msg. 39) Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 1:49 am
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"Spud" wrote:
> On Sun, 05 Nov 2006 03:10:57 GMT, "reborn rolla" <zzrollazz.TakeThisOut@King2.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Say once you have made the complete mission couldn't you just play it
>>through yourself to test it? Instead of getting 5 beta testers to preview
>>it.
>>
>
> This would work if you are infallible, but the very best of the
> existing authors always use several testers because:
>
> Some missions work OK on one set of hardware and fail on another.
> Players approach a mission in different ways - a mission that works
> OK if played the way the author intended may crash horribly if
> something different is tried. Remember the old adage - you never
> find all the bugs!
>
> So for testing I would recommend at least 5 testers, ranging from
> experienced through to newbie, and including at least one DromEder .
> Several testers = several hardware combinations = several play styles.
Thanks for the explanation. I want to make a mission with no un-dead,
zombies, "we're gonna have fun gutting you" black guards, hidden in
ridiculous places switches, 132 scrolls or books or notes to read, large
spiders etc.
My ideal mission would be a huge castle and.... >> Stay informed about: How Hard is it? |
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(Msg. 40) Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 1:49 am
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"Spud" wrote:
> On Sun, 05 Nov 2006 03:10:57 GMT, "reborn rolla" <zzrollazz.TakeThisOut@King2.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Say once you have made the complete mission couldn't you just play it
>>through yourself to test it? Instead of getting 5 beta testers to preview
>>it.
>>
>
> This would work if you are infallible, but the very best of the
> existing authors always use several testers because:
>
> Some missions work OK on one set of hardware and fail on another.
> Players approach a mission in different ways - a mission that works
> OK if played the way the author intended may crash horribly if
> something different is tried. Remember the old adage - you never
> find all the bugs!
>
> So for testing I would recommend at least 5 testers, ranging from
> experienced through to newbie, and including at least one DromEder .
> Several testers = several hardware combinations = several play styles.
Thanks for the explanation. I want to make a mission with no un-dead,
zombies, "we're gonna have fun gutting you" black guards, hidden in
ridiculous places switches, 132 scrolls or books or notes to read, large
spiders etc.
My ideal mission would be a huge castle and.... >> Stay informed about: How Hard is it? |
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(Msg. 41) Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 1:49 am
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"Spud" wrote:
> On Sun, 05 Nov 2006 03:10:57 GMT, "reborn rolla" <zzrollazz DeleteThis @King2.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Say once you have made the complete mission couldn't you just play it
>>through yourself to test it? Instead of getting 5 beta testers to preview
>>it.
>>
>
> This would work if you are infallible, but the very best of the
> existing authors always use several testers because:
>
> Some missions work OK on one set of hardware and fail on another.
> Players approach a mission in different ways - a mission that works
> OK if played the way the author intended may crash horribly if
> something different is tried. Remember the old adage - you never
> find all the bugs!
>
> So for testing I would recommend at least 5 testers, ranging from
> experienced through to newbie, and including at least one DromEder .
> Several testers = several hardware combinations = several play styles.
Thanks for the explanation. I want to make a mission with no un-dead,
zombies, "we're gonna have fun gutting you" black guards, hidden in
ridiculous places switches, 132 scrolls or books or notes to read, large
spiders etc.
My ideal mission would be a huge castle and.... >> Stay informed about: How Hard is it? |
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(Msg. 42) Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 2:41 am
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reborn rolla wrote:
> "Spud" wrote:
>
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>>On Sun, 05 Nov 2006 03:10:57 GMT, "reborn rolla" <zzrollazz DeleteThis @King2.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Say once you have made the complete mission couldn't you just play it
>>>through yourself to test it? Instead of getting 5 beta testers to preview
>>>it.
>>>
>>
>>This would work if you are infallible, but the very best of the
>>existing authors always use several testers because:
>>
>>Some missions work OK on one set of hardware and fail on another.
>>Players approach a mission in different ways - a mission that works
>>OK if played the way the author intended may crash horribly if
>>something different is tried. Remember the old adage - you never
>>find all the bugs!
>>
>>So for testing I would recommend at least 5 testers, ranging from
>>experienced through to newbie, and including at least one DromEder .
>>Several testers = several hardware combinations = several play styles.
>
>
>
>
> Thanks for the explanation. I want to make a mission with no un-dead,
> zombies, "we're gonna have fun gutting you" black guards, hidden in
> ridiculous places switches, 132 scrolls or books or notes to read, large
> spiders etc.
>
> My ideal mission would be a huge castle and....
>
>
Not bad except for the 132 scrolls or books. I hope you are joking on
that part.
Albert >> Stay informed about: How Hard is it? |
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(Msg. 43) Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 2:41 am
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reborn rolla wrote:
> "Spud" wrote:
>
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>>On Sun, 05 Nov 2006 03:10:57 GMT, "reborn rolla" <zzrollazz DeleteThis @King2.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Say once you have made the complete mission couldn't you just play it
>>>through yourself to test it? Instead of getting 5 beta testers to preview
>>>it.
>>>
>>
>>This would work if you are infallible, but the very best of the
>>existing authors always use several testers because:
>>
>>Some missions work OK on one set of hardware and fail on another.
>>Players approach a mission in different ways - a mission that works
>>OK if played the way the author intended may crash horribly if
>>something different is tried. Remember the old adage - you never
>>find all the bugs!
>>
>>So for testing I would recommend at least 5 testers, ranging from
>>experienced through to newbie, and including at least one DromEder .
>>Several testers = several hardware combinations = several play styles.
>
>
>
>
> Thanks for the explanation. I want to make a mission with no un-dead,
> zombies, "we're gonna have fun gutting you" black guards, hidden in
> ridiculous places switches, 132 scrolls or books or notes to read, large
> spiders etc.
>
> My ideal mission would be a huge castle and....
>
>
Not bad except for the 132 scrolls or books. I hope you are joking on
that part.
Albert >> Stay informed about: How Hard is it? |
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(Msg. 44) Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 2:41 am
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reborn rolla wrote:
> "Spud" wrote:
>
>
>>On Sun, 05 Nov 2006 03:10:57 GMT, "reborn rolla" <zzrollazz RemoveThis @King2.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Say once you have made the complete mission couldn't you just play it
>>>through yourself to test it? Instead of getting 5 beta testers to preview
>>>it.
>>>
>>
>>This would work if you are infallible, but the very best of the
>>existing authors always use several testers because:
>>
>>Some missions work OK on one set of hardware and fail on another.
>>Players approach a mission in different ways - a mission that works
>>OK if played the way the author intended may crash horribly if
>>something different is tried. Remember the old adage - you never
>>find all the bugs!
>>
>>So for testing I would recommend at least 5 testers, ranging from
>>experienced through to newbie, and including at least one DromEder .
>>Several testers = several hardware combinations = several play styles.
>
>
>
>
> Thanks for the explanation. I want to make a mission with no un-dead,
> zombies, "we're gonna have fun gutting you" black guards, hidden in
> ridiculous places switches, 132 scrolls or books or notes to read, large
> spiders etc.
>
> My ideal mission would be a huge castle and....
>
>
Not bad except for the 132 scrolls or books. I hope you are joking on
that part.
Albert >> Stay informed about: How Hard is it? |
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(Msg. 45) Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 2:41 am
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reborn rolla wrote:
> "Spud" wrote:
>
>
>>On Sun, 05 Nov 2006 03:10:57 GMT, "reborn rolla" <zzrollazz RemoveThis @King2.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Say once you have made the complete mission couldn't you just play it
>>>through yourself to test it? Instead of getting 5 beta testers to preview
>>>it.
>>>
>>
>>This would work if you are infallible, but the very best of the
>>existing authors always use several testers because:
>>
>>Some missions work OK on one set of hardware and fail on another.
>>Players approach a mission in different ways - a mission that works
>>OK if played the way the author intended may crash horribly if
>>something different is tried. Remember the old adage - you never
>>find all the bugs!
>>
>>So for testing I would recommend at least 5 testers, ranging from
>>experienced through to newbie, and including at least one DromEder .
>>Several testers = several hardware combinations = several play styles.
>
>
>
>
> Thanks for the explanation. I want to make a mission with no un-dead,
> zombies, "we're gonna have fun gutting you" black guards, hidden in
> ridiculous places switches, 132 scrolls or books or notes to read, large
> spiders etc.
>
> My ideal mission would be a huge castle and....
>
>
Not bad except for the 132 scrolls or books. I hope you are joking on
that part.
Albert >> Stay informed about: How Hard is it? |
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