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Susan Ray wrote:
> "shellreed" <michellereed607.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>>ok ok i have to admit i bought remake right did the crimson dude and um
>>ran when i came across the weird looking thing then saved in the out
>>house building thing right well then my son needed help on veronica and
>>i got into that so i am now trying to do both !!! right well now comes
>>the problem the bloody sharks please does anyone have any blooming idea
>>what i am meant to do i am sick of being eaten any help would be great
>>thanks in advance shell
>>
>
> If you are talking about the shark tank in remake then run. Run! Run! Run!
> Best bet is to run along the outside (to the characters left) and up the
> first steps to the control room door. No sense in going down to the tank
> without the "control room key" because you need it to open the door to get
> away from the sharks. Apparently you can kill the two smaller sharks in this
> area, but the big one is invincible.
>
> If you have drained the tank and you are already in the room with the giant
> shark, you need to electrocute him - there is a handy device on the platform
> (just past the shark) that will do the trick.
>
> Did that help? Susan
>
>
The device Susan mentioned, you need to push it off the platform and
into the water. The shark will be electricuted, and once the sparks
have died, you can go back into the water and get the key (or whatever
it is the shark's guarding, been so long since I played). The shark
might move once or twice, but that's just to scare you -- it's safely
dead after you shock it.

And she's right about the first part. Run your legs off! Stay on the
outside ring, even though it takes a little longer -- if you try and use
the faster, inside ring, you'll end up being killed. I seem to remember
one shark jumping out of the water, like a trout, and diving down to
swallow me whole. Ouch! I think it took me six or seven tries the
first time (I'm so lame), and even then, it was a heart-thumping race.
But then, I still had trouble once I was in the control room, solving
the next puzzle. Man, I'm so lame!
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> And she's right about the first part. Run your legs off! Stay on the
> outside ring, even though it takes a little longer --

In Chris' game, doesn't Richard get eaten here? ISTR taking his combat
shotgun at around this point.


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> Wulf <wulf.RemoveThis@goldfieldaccess.net> wrote:
>
>> And she's right about the first part. Run your legs off! Stay on the
>> outside ring, even though it takes a little longer --
>
> In Chris' game, doesn't Richard get eaten here? ISTR taking his combat
> shotgun at around this point.
>
>
> Cheers,
> Rob
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> "Do sugar cubes have dots or is that a dice I just put in my tea?"
>
> To the world you are somebody, but to somebody you are the world.

You pick up Richards shotgun inside the control room just about where the
smaller shark is still wiggling. Funny, I'd forgotten about Richards
shotgun.
Susan
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Susan Ray wrote:
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>>In message <Lcmdna4hyP0UAL7ZnZ2dnUVZ_tqdnZ2d DeleteThis @deskmedia.com>
>> Wulf <wulf DeleteThis @goldfieldaccess.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>And she's right about the first part. Run your legs off! Stay on the
>>>outside ring, even though it takes a little longer --
>>
>>In Chris' game, doesn't Richard get eaten here? ISTR taking his combat
>>shotgun at around this point.
>>
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Rob
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>>"Do sugar cubes have dots or is that a dice I just put in my tea?"
>>
>>To the world you are somebody, but to somebody you are the world.
>
>
> You pick up Richards shotgun inside the control room just about where the
> smaller shark is still wiggling. Funny, I'd forgotten about Richards
> shotgun.
> Susan
>
>

I never played Chris' game, so I couldn't tell ya. Man, see how wimpy I
am? I only ever tried the version with the grenade launcher glitch.
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"Susan Ray" <raystorey.RemoveThis@sympatico.ca> wrote:

> You pick up Richards shotgun inside the control room just about where the
> smaller shark is still wiggling. Funny, I'd forgotten about Richards
> shotgun.
> Susan

It's one of the reasons I love Chris' game. The difficulty is upped
over Jill's much more steeply than the original. I've got a guide I
wrote aeons ago which adds just 17 minutes to Chris' game over Jill's
fastest game. The REmake adds about thirty minutes!


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ok now i am really confused right so i ran and um could only get into
the door with big plant no help at all how do i get this thingie to
electrocute do i do this before or after draining water and um how do i
drain the water! as for the fish like a trout yep thats exactly what is
happening to me
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> In message <jCRUf.9950$ji6.578290@news20.bellglobal.com>
> "Susan Ray" <raystorey.DeleteThis@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
>> You pick up Richards shotgun inside the control room just about where the
>> smaller shark is still wiggling. Funny, I'd forgotten about Richards
>> shotgun.
>> Susan
>
> It's one of the reasons I love Chris' game. The difficulty is upped
> over Jill's much more steeply than the original. I've got a guide I
> wrote aeons ago which adds just 17 minutes to Chris' game over Jill's
> fastest game. The REmake adds about thirty minutes!
>
>
> Cheers,
> Rob
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> "Do sugar cubes have dots or is that a dice I just put in my tea?"
>
> To the world you are somebody, but to somebody you are the world.

Thirty minutes is pretty impressive considering Chris doesn't have the
lockpick or the extra two spaces. I never did manage to find Rebecca on my
first play through with him. I didn't find her dead body either. I heard the
scream, but after spending an hour looking I gave up. I found where she was
the next game (major embarrassment that she was so close). The only parts of
Chris's game I enjoy are the flash grenades and the minor story differences.
I prefer the atmosphere to the challenge. I'm such a wimp. I liked the way
the cut scenes where dependant on when your character arrived at the
cutscene, or the direction your character approached the cutscene. Was it
the same in the original resident evil, or was that just in the remake?
Susan
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> Susan Ray wrote:
>> "Rob White" <mflt35.RemoveThis@dsl.pipex.com> wrote in message
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>>>In message <Lcmdna4hyP0UAL7ZnZ2dnUVZ_tqdnZ2d.RemoveThis@deskmedia.com>
>>> Wulf <wulf.RemoveThis@goldfieldaccess.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>And she's right about the first part. Run your legs off! Stay on the
>>>>outside ring, even though it takes a little longer --
>>>
>>>In Chris' game, doesn't Richard get eaten here? ISTR taking his combat
>>>shotgun at around this point.
>>>
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>Rob
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>>>"Do sugar cubes have dots or is that a dice I just put in my tea?"
>>>
>>>To the world you are somebody, but to somebody you are the world.
>>
>>
>> You pick up Richards shotgun inside the control room just about where the
>> smaller shark is still wiggling. Funny, I'd forgotten about Richards
>> shotgun.
>> Susan
>
> I never played Chris' game, so I couldn't tell ya. Man, see how wimpy I
> am? I only ever tried the version with the grenade launcher glitch.

You should try his game. You should have at least one bonus weapon to use by
now, so it won't be as difficult. His story in the game is slightly
different from Jill's. Definitely worth a peek. I love that glitch too!
(stress free gameplay)
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"Susan Ray" <raystorey RemoveThis @sympatico.ca> wrote:

> Thirty minutes is pretty impressive considering Chris doesn't have the
> lockpick or the extra two spaces.

The hardest game mode for me personally is Chris in Real Survivor. He
just doesn't have the amount of inventory slots to use like Jill.
Jill's RS game is actually quite easy, as most of the time you'll be
discarding items and hardly every retrieving them.

> I never did manage to find Rebecca on my first play through with him.
> I didn't find her dead body either. I heard the scream, but after
> spending an hour looking I gave up. I found where she was the next
> game (major embarrassment that she was so close).

Isn't she in that little study in the upper east wing where you find the
dog whistle? I have to admit it's been a while since I played REmake, I
just can't seem to put GTA: San Andreas down.

> The only parts of Chris's game I enjoy are the flash grenades and the
> minor story differences.

The flash grenades are cool, I think I prefer them to the knives and
tasers that Jill utilises. One funny thing: In Invisible mode, get a
zombie to attack you and use a defence item. The knife will stick in
his head, although the zombie stays invisible.

It's almost as amusing as pinning crows to the wall with the dart-gun
in RE2 )

> I prefer the atmosphere to the challenge. I'm such a wimp. I liked
> the way the cut scenes where dependant on when your character
> arrived at the cutscene, or the direction your character approached
> the cutscene.

There does seem to be many more different paths that are time related.
In the original, which path you chose affected the rest of the
cutscenes (Taking Rebecca with you Y/N, Visiting Richard, etc.).

> Was it the same in the original resident evil, or was that just in
> the remake? Susan

See above, although there are a few other instances in Jill's game.
Where you meet Barry, for example, affects what happens way later in
the game in the Guardhouse and caves I think. That, and there's another
choice ("Let Barry lead?") which gets him killed off, and thus stops
him appearing at the end.

I kind of hate that last one, as it avoids the plot line of Wesker
manipulating Barry to do his evil deeds and makes the game's conspiracy
seem shallow.


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> The hardest game mode for me personally is Chris in Real Survivor. He
> just doesn't have the amount of inventory slots to use like Jill.
> Jill's RS game is actually quite easy, as most of the time you'll be
> discarding items and hardly every retrieving them.

I'm impressed! The first time I played the game I got Chris through, barely,
then I discovered Jill's bigger item slot and grenade launcher glitch. I did
the rest of the game modes with Jill and her glitch, and I shook like a leaf
all the way through invisible. No more Chris until I had all the bonus
weapons in tow!

> Isn't she in that little study in the upper east wing where you find the
> dog whistle? I have to admit it's been a while since I played REmake, I
> just can't seem to put GTA: San Andreas down.

Yes, that's where she is. I was under the impression that you've done GTA SA
three times already. Am I mistaken? I'm still at 80% completion - black
project.

> The flash grenades are cool, I think I prefer them to the knives and
> tasers that Jill utilises. One funny thing: In Invisible mode, get a
> zombie to attack you and use a defence item. The knife will stick in
> his head, although the zombie stays invisible.

I can only imagine how funny the knife bit looks. I had a difficult enough
time getting through with Jill's glitch. I can't imagine the battle with the
imature Tyrant in the Lab with Chris - avoidable on Jill's game.

> It's almost as amusing as pinning crows to the wall with the dart-gun
> in RE2 )

Agreed, crows pinned to the wall are amusing. I really hated that weapon
with a passion - I missed more than I hit.

> There does seem to be many more different paths that are time related.
> In the original, which path you chose affected the rest of the
> cutscenes (Taking Rebecca with you Y/N, Visiting Richard, etc.).

I meant like the first cut scene in Jill's game - different view of Barry
depending on what side of the table you walked on (left or right). Your path
choices through the upper mansion determined whether or not Barry handed
Jill the grenade launcher. Etc. Same cut scenes - different view.

> See above, although there are a few other instances in Jill's game.
> Where you meet Barry, for example, affects what happens way later in
> the game in the Guardhouse and caves I think. That, and there's another
> choice ("Let Barry lead?") which gets him killed off, and thus stops
> him appearing at the end.

I don't recall "let Barry lead". Was that in the remake? I only remember
"give Barry back his gun?".

> I kind of hate that last one, as it avoids the plot line of Wesker
> manipulating Barry to do his evil deeds and makes the game's conspiracy
> seem shallow.
>
>
> Cheers,
> Rob
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> "Do sugar cubes have dots or is that a dice I just put in my tea?"
>
> To the world you are somebody, but to somebody you are the world.

I don't like skipping the story either, but when I was trying to get the
time bit done - I had too. Did you get the bonus's using Chris and not
skipping things you could? Like not rescuing anyone etc?
Susan
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> ok now i am really confused right so i ran and um could only get into
> the door with big plant no help at all how do i get this thingie to
> electrocute do i do this before or after draining water and um how do i
> drain the water! as for the fish like a trout yep thats exactly what is
> happening to me
>
You ran right past the room you want to go in. There are a couple of stairs
up to the locked door of the control room. The control room is just before
the plant room. Easy to miss. The plant bit comes later, and depends on what
character you're using, and who is alive or dead when you meet the plant.
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"Susan" <raystorey.DeleteThis@sympatico.ca> wrote:

> I know I'm going to regret asking, but how long did your 19th (heavens) 100%
> take you?

*Ages*. Fastest game so far is 32:11, and that's without reloading or
*any cheats (Using cheats makes a "Times Cheated" stat appear on your
*stat menu.

> Odd that they'd feel compelled to get rid of one line of cheesy dialogue and
> leave all the rest!

Shame they got rid of "No! Don't Go!" I still totally dig that intro
movie )

> I was curious about those cube passcode machines - what did they look like
> in the original? Or did they have that in the original?
> Susan

IIRC, they look like fax machines.


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> *Ages*. Fastest game so far is 32:11, and that's without reloading or
> *any cheats (Using cheats makes a "Times Cheated" stat appear on your
> *stat menu.

I'd noticed the "times cheated" stat. Interesting addition to the SA game! I
don't save after using the cheats, but I sure do love to use them.
*My apologizes to all for discussing this game here. I should have discussed
this in the GTA newsgroup.*

> Shame they got rid of "No! Don't Go!" I still totally dig that intro
> movie )

I don't understand why some dislike the cheesy dialogue. I personally enjoy
the laugh in between bouts of sheer terror! My favorite is still Ada's
parting words ("fine, let's split up") to Leon after he tried to strangle
her in RE4.

> IIRC, they look like fax machines.
>
>
> Cheers,
> Rob
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>
> To the world you are somebody, but to somebody you are the world.

Thanks for the info on the origional RE. I didn't get to play it. I was
surprised to find it wasn't exactly the same as the remake.
Susan
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