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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat May 01, 2004 4:19 pm
Post subject: HERO: Character Design Question (TK/Gravity Based)
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This is probably a really simple thing but I am
having a brain dead moment and could use
some insights/suggestions please.....
I'm toying with building a telekenetic who, as
part of her "flavor", draws a portion of her
TK strength from the "kenetic/potential energy"
within the object(s) she is manipulating. As an
example: Commander No Name tosses a
battleship at the hero group. The TK-er in
question grabs it in the air. Her TK strength
would be greater (or her END cost lower..not
certain yet which) when the battleship in question
is at it's greatest altitude/highest speed, since
her TK could be described as "feeding" from the
inherant energy in the object. As she slows it down
and/or lowers it to ground level, her TK weakens (or,
as posited previousely, her END cost increases).
Any thoughts on a generally acceptable method
to accomplish this sort of effect ?
Thanks in advance.
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat May 01, 2004 7:35 pm
Post subject: Re: HERO: Character Design Question (TK/Gravity Based) [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On 01 May 2004 16:19:12 GMT, cue42 RemoveThis @aol.com (Cue42) wrote:
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>This is probably a really simple thing but I am
>having a brain dead moment and could use
>some insights/suggestions please.....
>
>I'm toying with building a telekenetic who, as
>part of her "flavor", draws a portion of her
>TK strength from the "kenetic/potential energy"
>within the object(s) she is manipulating. As an
>example: Commander No Name tosses a
>battleship at the hero group. The TK-er in
>question grabs it in the air. Her TK strength
>would be greater (or her END cost lower..not
>certain yet which) when the battleship in question
>is at it's greatest altitude/highest speed, since
>her TK could be described as "feeding" from the
>inherant energy in the object. As she slows it down
>and/or lowers it to ground level, her TK weakens (or,
>as posited previousely, her END cost increases).
>
>Any thoughts on a generally acceptable method
>to accomplish this sort of effect ?
Yeah. Don't. You are talking about inflicting a
mathematical nightmare on yourself and possibly
your GM. That sort of thing is just a special effect.
Besides, it's not physically valid. The potential energy
inside an object that is on the ground versus one that
is a thousand feet in the air is virtually the same. The
difference in distance between it and the Earth's
center of gravity is in the two cases is negligible and
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat May 01, 2004 8:17 pm
Post subject: Re: HERO: Character Design Question (TK/Gravity Based) [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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David Johnston posited:
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>Yeah. Don't. You are talking about
>inflicting a mathematical nightmare on
>yourself and possibly your GM. That
> sort of thing is just a special effect.
True enough.....Hmmm. I suppose that
a staggered level of END cost based
on "range to target" might accomplish
waht I am looking for and do so in a
slightly neater package....Or not. =]
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun May 02, 2004 1:14 am
Post subject: Re: HERO: Character Design Question (TK/Gravity Based) [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On 01 May 2004 16:19:12 GMT, cue42 DeleteThis @aol.com (Cue42) wrote:
>I'm toying with building a telekenetic who, as
>part of her "flavor", draws a portion of her
>TK strength from the "kenetic/potential energy"
>within the object(s) she is manipulating. As an
>example: Commander No Name tosses a
>battleship at the hero group. The TK-er in
>question grabs it in the air. Her TK strength
>would be greater (or her END cost lower..not
>certain yet which) when the battleship in question
>is at it's greatest altitude/highest speed, since
>her TK could be described as "feeding" from the
>inherant energy in the object. As she slows it down
>and/or lowers it to ground level, her TK weakens (or,
>as posited previousely, her END cost increases).
>
I *know* that the "potential energy" thing has been done before (Remy
says "hello"), but as in flavor as it may be, it's a
real-world-physics and game-mechanics nightmare. I would strongly
suggest just saying that it works that way as a special effect, and
leave it at its base value (0 Limitation).
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sun May 02, 2004 5:21 am
Post subject: Re: HERO: Character Design Question (TK/Gravity Based) [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Cue42 wrote:
> This is probably a really simple thing but I am
> having a brain dead moment and could use
> some insights/suggestions please.....
>
> I'm toying with building a telekenetic who, as
> part of her "flavor", draws a portion of her
> TK strength from the "kenetic/potential energy"
> within the object(s) she is manipulating. As an
> example: Commander No Name tosses a
> battleship at the hero group. The TK-er in
> question grabs it in the air. Her TK strength
> would be greater (or her END cost lower..not
> certain yet which) when the battleship in question
> is at it's greatest altitude/highest speed, since
> her TK could be described as "feeding" from the
> inherant energy in the object. As she slows it down
> and/or lowers it to ground level, her TK weakens (or,
> as posited previousely, her END cost increases).
>
> Any thoughts on a generally acceptable method
> to accomplish this sort of effect ?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> -Carl S.-
Create a new disadvantage, called Increased by range.
Similar to the decreased by range, but in reverse, where you have almost
no power in close to the Earths surface, but greater further away from
it. The max effect would be the powers max range.
As to potential energy..
Potential energy = mass * gravitational acceleration * height
Therefore the further an object gets from your reference point (Earth's
surface) the greater it's potential energy. >> Stay informed about: HERO: Character Design Question (TK/Gravity Based) |
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sun May 02, 2004 5:00 pm
Post subject: Re: HERO: Character Design Question (TK/Gravity Based) [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Sun, 02 May 2004 05:21:58 GMT, Steve <bodiej DeleteThis @sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>Cue42 wrote:
>> This is probably a really simple thing but I am
>> having a brain dead moment and could use
>> some insights/suggestions please.....
>>
>> I'm toying with building a telekenetic who, as
>> part of her "flavor", draws a portion of her
>> TK strength from the "kenetic/potential energy"
>> within the object(s) she is manipulating. As an
>> example: Commander No Name tosses a
>> battleship at the hero group. The TK-er in
>> question grabs it in the air. Her TK strength
>> would be greater (or her END cost lower..not
>> certain yet which) when the battleship in question
>> is at it's greatest altitude/highest speed, since
>> her TK could be described as "feeding" from the
>> inherant energy in the object. As she slows it down
>> and/or lowers it to ground level, her TK weakens (or,
>> as posited previousely, her END cost increases).
>>
>> Any thoughts on a generally acceptable method
>> to accomplish this sort of effect ?
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>> -Carl S.-
>
>Create a new disadvantage, called Increased by range.
>Similar to the decreased by range, but in reverse, where you have almost
>no power in close to the Earths surface, but greater further away from
>it. The max effect would be the powers max range.
>
>As to potential energy..
>Potential energy = mass * gravitational acceleration * height
>Therefore the further an object gets from your reference point (Earth's
>surface) the greater it's potential energy.
That's the wrong reference point. The right reference point would be
the Earths's center of gavity. >> Stay informed about: HERO: Character Design Question (TK/Gravity Based) |
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon May 03, 2004 5:59 pm
Post subject: Re: HERO: Character Design Question (TK/Gravity Based) [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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The thrown battleship is an RKA. Would not an appropriate absorpotion usable
at range linked to TK be it?
Cue42 wrote:
>
> This is probably a really simple thing but I am
> having a brain dead moment and could use
> some insights/suggestions please.....
>
> I'm toying with building a telekenetic who, as
> part of her "flavor", draws a portion of her
> TK strength from the "kenetic/potential energy"
> within the object(s) she is manipulating. As an
> example: Commander No Name tosses a
> battleship at the hero group. The TK-er in
> question grabs it in the air. Her TK strength
> would be greater (or her END cost lower..not
> certain yet which) when the battleship in question
> is at it's greatest altitude/highest speed, since
> her TK could be described as "feeding" from the
> inherant energy in the object. As she slows it down
> and/or lowers it to ground level, her TK weakens (or,
> as posited previousely, her END cost increases).
>
> Any thoughts on a generally acceptable method
> to accomplish this sort of effect ?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> -Carl S.-
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon May 03, 2004 6:25 pm
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On Mon, 03 May 2004 17:59:56 GMT, James McIninch
<james.mcininch DeleteThis @comcast.net.spam> wrote:
>The thrown battleship is an RKA. Would not an appropriate absorpotion usable
>at range linked to TK be it?
No it isn't. And no it wouldn't be.
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>Cue42 wrote:
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>> This is probably a really simple thing but I am
>> having a brain dead moment and could use
>> some insights/suggestions please.....
>>
>> I'm toying with building a telekenetic who, as
>> part of her "flavor", draws a portion of her
>> TK strength from the "kenetic/potential energy"
>> within the object(s) she is manipulating. As an
>> example: Commander No Name tosses a
>> battleship at the hero group. The TK-er in
>> question grabs it in the air. Her TK strength
>> would be greater (or her END cost lower..not
>> certain yet which) when the battleship in question
>> is at it's greatest altitude/highest speed, since
>> her TK could be described as "feeding" from the
>> inherant energy in the object. As she slows it down
>> and/or lowers it to ground level, her TK weakens (or,
>> as posited previousely, her END cost increases).
>>
>> Any thoughts on a generally acceptable method
>> to accomplish this sort of effect ?
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>> -Carl S.-
>
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