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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 10:45 am
Post subject: Group Fighting Techniques
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Thanks to all your help, the game is much better. Ppl here have
suggested taking on one enemy at a time. I just got to the 4th level
of the mines south of Nashkel and am about to fight Mulahey. As soon
as my dialogue ends, he moves away and we are joined by some of his
pals, 4 skeletons and 6 kobold. They surround us (Me, figher/mage,
Imoen, Jaheira, Khalid, Kagain, and Branwen) and I'm not quite sure how
to take on all these many boogers at once.
How does the turning undead feature work for Branwen. I click it and
select a victim to turn? I tried that and nothing happened. The
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 1:31 pm
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Fulcanelli wrote:
> Thanks to all your help, the game is much better. Ppl here have
> suggested taking on one enemy at a time. I just got to the 4th level
> of the mines south of Nashkel and am about to fight Mulahey. As soon
> as my dialogue ends, he moves away and we are joined by some of his
> pals, 4 skeletons and 6 kobold. They surround us (Me, figher/mage,
> Imoen, Jaheira, Khalid, Kagain, and Branwen) and I'm not quite sure how
> to take on all these many boogers at once.
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> How does the turning undead feature work for Branwen. I click it and
> select a victim to turn? I tried that and nothing happened. The
> manual talks about this option but does not explain how it works.
>
Well now that you know what is going to happen, you could try spreading
out the party so the weaker ones don't get surrounded and attacked, and
you could 'strategically' place them seeing as you know where they will
come from. the skeletons require a blunt weapon to hit with full damage,
ie. club, mace, flail otherwise you will only do 1/2 to 1/4 damage, so
have the bow people stick to the kobolds, send jaheria and Branwen after
the skeletons.
If a cleric is turning undead they can't attack, jst click the turn
undead button, and don't let her get close enough to attack, however it
may not do any good, as she's probably 2nd or 3rd level I don't think
she has enough 'power' to turn them, if they do get turned they just
start to run away, or will explode and die.
Spreading out the party will also minimize the chances of the party
getting affected by any area of effect spells that Mulahey will cast also.
IIRC the layout is crudely drawn
room S
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ent room M
IIRC the skeletons and kobolds come from room S
you could try holing up in Room X, with the hand held fighters
up front, and ranged behind, send only one to talk to Mul, runback after
talking, and meet his buddies in the little hallway, 1 or 2 at a time.
or have Jaheria cast entangle towards room S in the hall should stop his
buddies from getting to you and you can just shoot them down at your
lesiure.
When you start to fight Mul, keep the magic missiles going, you should
still have a wand hopefully, you want to hit him every turn with one to
keep him from casting disabling spells at you, a hold or panic on every
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 2:23 pm
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"Fulcanelli" <fulcanelli DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Thanks to all your help, the game is much better. Ppl here have
> suggested taking on one enemy at a time. I just got to the 4th level
> of the mines south of Nashkel and am about to fight Mulahey. As soon
> as my dialogue ends, he moves away and we are joined by some of his
> pals, 4 skeletons and 6 kobold. They surround us (Me, figher/mage,
> Imoen, Jaheira, Khalid, Kagain, and Branwen) and I'm not quite sure how
> to take on all these many boogers at once.
It's been a while but I think it's possible to kill the first set of
skeletons before talking to Mulahey, then bunching up in the room with him
without the other set seeing you. I think it's also possible to talk to him
and run out right away, letting you kill the second set of skeleton without
having to deal with him right away.
I think quite a few fights are like that, where you can fight one or a small
group of monsters first before taking on another nearby monster or group.
It's kind of gamey though. Sometimes it fun to just rush in and take them
all on at once, the way it seems like it was meant to be.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 3:55 pm
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Fulcanelli wrote:
> How does the turning undead feature work for Branwen. I click it and
> select a victim to turn? I tried that and nothing happened.
You click it and keep the Turn Undead button lit up, and as long as it
is lit up, each round, she attempts to Turn all the skeletons within her
range. Her AI must be off, or she'll stop Turning and attack. By
clicking on the Turn Undead button and then clicking on a skeleton, you
immediately overrode the "Turn Undead" order with "Attack that skeleton." >> Stay informed about: Group Fighting Techniques |
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 4:55 pm
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Fulcanelli wrote:
> Thanks to all your help, the game is much better. Ppl here have
> suggested taking on one enemy at a time. I just got to the 4th level
> of the mines south of Nashkel and am about to fight Mulahey. As soon
> as my dialogue ends, he moves away and we are joined by some of his
> pals, 4 skeletons and 6 kobold. They surround us (Me, figher/mage,
> Imoen, Jaheira, Khalid, Kagain, and Branwen) and I'm not quite sure
> how to take on all these many boogers at once.
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> How does the turning undead feature work for Branwen. I click it and
> select a victim to turn? I tried that and nothing happened. The
> manual talks about this option but does not explain how it works.
Further to what others have said don't forget to use your buffing and
protection spells when going into dodgy situations. Bless, Aid, Mage armour
etc. can make a big difference. Also...don't be afraid to run away if you
get surrounded. That often happens when yoiur ambushed when travelling. I
usually select all and run and then turn my tank on the following enemy. You
can then use your ranged attackers when they are at a decent distance.
Another thing. Be careful about having ranged weapons equiped when you are
in melee range of the enemy as they get a +4 bonus to attacks. keep your
distance or change the weapon. >> Stay informed about: Group Fighting Techniques |
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 6:05 pm
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I'm probably playing all wrong, though I must say, I am getting better.
Having played years of RPGs on PlayStation really tainted my approach.
That and the fact, as I've already mentioned TOO many times, I'm not a
good gamer. I love to play.
I've been follow the majority advice and just following the storyline
instead of roaming around looking for trouble. Due to my weakness, I
have Branwen casting mostly healing spells, and even though I'm a
figher/mage, I keep myself protected and don't use magic. In fact, I
don't really have much in the way of magic spells.
I did put down Mulahey and decided to pick up Minsc (Kagain died and
when I took him to raise him back to life, he left the group, so I went
back to the last save and dumped the bum.) While back in town, while
gearing up, I ran into a mean, nastyNasty dude that really wanted me
dead in a bad way. I somehow survived that (after about four tries)
and had to spend 800 gold to resurrect the three who died. I sure
hope I get that spell (raise the dead) soon! Now I'm back on the road
to go take on Greywolf. He kicked my butt pretty badly so I thought
Minsc might help out.
I still have so much to learn about the mechanics of this game!
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 6:55 pm
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 8:35 pm
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Fulcanelli wrote:
> I did put down Mulahey and decided to pick up Minsc (Kagain died and
> when I took him to raise him back to life, he left the group, so I went
> back to the last save and dumped the bum.) While back in town, while
> gearing up, I ran into a mean, nastyNasty dude that really wanted me
> dead in a bad way. I somehow survived that (after about four tries)
> and had to spend 800 gold to resurrect the three who died. I sure
> hope I get that spell (raise the dead) soon!
I'm sorry to tell you that Branwen won't get Raise Dead for a *long* time.
If you keep Jaheira, she eventually gets a lower-level spell named "Harper's
Call" which accomplishes the same thing, but since Jaheira's a multi-class
character, she's got to accrue twice as many XP as Branwen to reach the same
level.
> Now I'm back on the road to go take on Greywolf. He kicked my butt pretty
> badly so I thought Minsc might help out.
In BG1, Entangle only affects enemy characters. You can have Jaheira cast
Entangle on an area then have your character run around in the "Entangle
zone" until Greywulf gets immobilized. Then your party can easily kill him
with missile weapons. You can even use your magic spells for once!
Alternatively, you can have your party all bunched together except for your
character. Have your character speak to Prism, and when Greywulf shows up
and gets in your face, have your character run in a big circle around the
rest of the group while all your other characters pepper him with sling
bullets and arrows.
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 11:55 pm
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Bob Terwilliger wrote:
> Fulcanelli wrote:
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>>I did put down Mulahey and decided to pick up Minsc (Kagain died and
>>when I took him to raise him back to life, he left the group, so I went
>>back to the last save and dumped the bum.) While back in town, while
>>gearing up, I ran into a mean, nastyNasty dude that really wanted me
>>dead in a bad way. I somehow survived that (after about four tries)
>>and had to spend 800 gold to resurrect the three who died. I sure
>>hope I get that spell (raise the dead) soon!
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> I'm sorry to tell you that Branwen won't get Raise Dead for a *long* time.
I'm even sorrier to tell you that no party member in BG1 can ever raise
the dead. You buy it in temples, or you don't get it. >> Stay informed about: Group Fighting Techniques |
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 1:55 am
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"Fulcanelli" <fulcanelli RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in
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> I'm probably playing all wrong, though I must say, I am
> getting better.
> Having played years of RPGs on PlayStation really tainted
> my approach. That and the fact, as I've already mentioned
> TOO many times, I'm not a
> good gamer. I love to play.
>
> I've been follow the majority advice and just following the
> storyline instead of roaming around looking for trouble.
> Due to my weakness, I have Branwen casting mostly healing
> spells, and even though I'm a figher/mage, I keep myself
> protected and don't use magic. In fact, I don't really
> have much in the way of magic spells.
>
> I did put down Mulahey and decided to pick up Minsc (Kagain
> died and when I took him to raise him back to life, he left
> the group, so I went back to the last save and dumped the
> bum.) While back in town, while gearing up, I ran into a
> mean, nastyNasty dude that really wanted me dead in a bad
> way. I somehow survived that (after about four tries) and
> had to spend 800 gold to resurrect the three who died. I
> sure hope I get that spell (raise the dead) soon! Now I'm
> back on the road to go take on Greywolf. He kicked my butt
> pretty badly so I thought Minsc might help out.
>
> I still have so much to learn about the mechanics of this
> game!
>
> Thanks
>
Tip: Explore the area west and south of Prism before you start
Greywolf. One character can lead Greywolf in circle (up and down
a cliff) while the rest of the party hit Greywolf with ranged
weapons from safe distance.
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 4:32 am
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I didn't think I'd do it, but I did defeat Greywolf. The spell Haste
stopped his magic and that's what was killing me. The only character I
have with missles is my main guy, and I've been keeping him bound up in
armor and using him mostly for bow and arrow work.
Now I'm prowling thru the grassy Knoll Stronghold.
I'm spending quite a bit on reviving characters. I've done 5-6 so far,
Imoen (2X) costs me 400 deneros each time.
But, even without all that money in the bank, it's a great gaming
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 7:17 am
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 8:27 am
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Fulcanelli wrote:
> I didn't think I'd do it, but I did defeat Greywolf. The spell Haste
> stopped his magic and that's what was killing me. The only character I
> have with missles is my main guy, and I've been keeping him bound up in
> armor and using him mostly for bow and arrow work.
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> Now I'm prowling thru the grassy Knoll Stronghold.
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> I'm spending quite a bit on reviving characters. I've done 5-6 so far,
> Imoen (2X) costs me 400 deneros each time.
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> But, even without all that money in the bank, it's a great gaming
> experience.
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Jaheria also has missile weapons, and Minsc and Kahlid has bows, you
should be able to give everyone somekind of ranged weapon, in my parties
everyone has a ranged weapon and I either keep distance or switch to
handheld on the front liners if they close, ranged weapons rule in BG1
wait until you run into the groups of bandits, 6 archers will wipe you
out before you get to them for handheld fighting, but they,re worth it,
you should be able to make ~70gp from each bandit, and enough arrows to
never run out.
The price of raising them will keep going up, depending on some
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 8:55 am
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"Fulcanelli" <fulcanelli DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in
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> I didn't think I'd do it, but I did defeat Greywolf. The
> spell Haste stopped his magic and that's what was killing
> me. The only character I have with missles is my main guy,
> and I've been keeping him bound up in armor and using him
> mostly for bow and arrow work.
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> Now I'm prowling thru the grassy Knoll Stronghold.
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> I'm spending quite a bit on reviving characters. I've done
> 5-6 so far, Imoen (2X) costs me 400 deneros each time.
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> But, even without all that money in the bank, it's a great
> gaming experience.
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Imoen has a pip in Bow -- use it.
Branwen has a pip in Missiles -- use sling. Note, that sling it
1-handed, i.e., she can wear a shield while using the sling.
Dynaheir has a pip in Missiles -- use sling.
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