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Jonah Falcon

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 11:58 am
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http://www.gamestooge.com/2008/05/09/microsoft-exec-greenberg-blasts-ps3/

Microsoft’s Aaron Greenberg blasted Sony for its lying about the
PlayStation 3, hurling such salvos as:

Lying about PS3 Game Graphics

We have been fighting Sony’s promises from the day we entered the
market. Three years ago at E3 they showed what PS3 games would
supposedly look like with the Killzone 2 video, that we are now
learning will ship four years later. That means that we will have
shipped Gears of War and Gears of War 2 before they can even get
Killzone out the door.

Lying about Home and PlayStation Network

Think back to GDC 2007 when Sony promised to leap ahead in online with
the Sony Home unveil. Here we are two years later and multiple delays
for a product that has appears to have little to no buzz. Where are
the achievements? The friends list integration across all games? Where
is the long-promised video store?

Lying about PlayStation 3 hardware

Where are all the other products using and networking with their Cell
chip? How come Blu-ray did not result in better games? What happened
with Sixaxis and rumble? Where is the complete 1080p game library we
were promised? If Blu-ray, as they said, would be such a catalyst to
PS3 console sales, then why have PS3 sales over the past couple months
not seen any lift since the format victory?

It doesn’t help that Sony itself admitted failure, calling Home “too
ambitious”.

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The alMIGHTY N

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 1:01 pm
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On May 9, 2:58 pm, Jonah Falcon <jonahny... DeleteThis @mindspring.com> wrote:
> http://www.gamestooge.com/2008/05/09/microsoft-exec-greenberg-blasts-...
>
> Microsoft’s Aaron Greenberg blasted Sony for its lying about the
> PlayStation 3, hurling such salvos as:
>
> Lying about PS3 Game Graphics
>
> We have been fighting Sony’s promises from the day we entered the
> market. Three years ago at E3 they showed what PS3 games would
> supposedly look like with the Killzone 2 video, that we are now
> learning will ship four years later. That means that we will have
> shipped Gears of War and Gears of War 2 before they can even get
> Killzone out the door.

What does shipping a game later have to do with lying about graphics?
The graphics shown in the latest videos of Killzone 2 are pretty
impressive even though they're not quite at the level of the target
video.

> Lying about Home and PlayStation Network
>
> Think back to GDC 2007 when Sony promised to leap ahead in online with
> the Sony Home unveil. Here we are two years later and multiple delays
> for a product that has appears to have little to no buzz. Where are
> the achievements? The friends list integration across all games? Where
> is the long-promised video store?

Is the complaint that Sony lied about the technologies themselves or
lied about when they would be available to gamers? It's not like
Microsoft hasn't ever delayed a product before...

> Lying about PlayStation 3 hardware
>
> Where are all the other products using and networking with their Cell
> chip?

How quickly do other radically different technologies propagate? When
the Java programming language first came on the scene, there was lots
of talk about how it would be used to get different home appliances to
communicate with each other and how it would change the landscape of
web interfaces.

Over a decade later, nobody's talking about their microwaves and
refrigerators having a dinner conversation anymore and the Java GUI
components are essentially ancient history (although the landscape of
web interfaces *is* changing with such technologies as Ajax).

Does this mean that the people who created Java were lying sacks of
sh1t?

> How come Blu-ray did not result in better games?

It may result in a more cinematic game experience. We have to wait
until MGS4 hits to see...

And it's pretty much a given that the next generation of at least the
Xbox and the Playstation are going to use Blu-Ray as the optical
medium format.

> What happened
> with Sixaxis and rumble?

Nobody used SixAxis and rumble's back in.

> Where is the complete 1080p game library we
> were promised?

Were we promised a game library that would be 100% 1080p? Was part of
that promise that Sony would somehow guarantee that all third-party
developers had to deliver a 1080p experience?

> If Blu-ray, as they said, would be such a catalyst to
> PS3 console sales, then why have PS3 sales over the past couple months
> not seen any lift since the format victory?

Blu-Ray was indeed a catalyst to Playstation 3 console sales. Tons of
Playstation 3 consoles were sold to people with absolutely no interest
in ever playing a Playstation 3 game.

> It doesn’t help that Sony itself admitted failure, calling Home “too
> ambitious”.

I took that to mean that it was too ambitious for them to have ready
as early as they had hoped. Home is still coming out and is still
pretty much the same beast it was way back when.

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 5:15 pm
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"Jonah Falcon" <jonahnynla DeleteThis @mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:1e3decbc-b732-44d2-8d6c-e3eb3f8279ac@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
http://www.gamestooge.com/2008/05/09/microsoft-exec-greenberg-blasts-ps3/

Microsoft’s Aaron Greenberg blasted Sony for its lying about the
PlayStation 3, hurling such salvos as:

Lying about PS3 Game Graphics

We have been fighting Sony’s promises from the day we entered the
market. Three years ago at E3 they showed what PS3 games would
supposedly look like with the Killzone 2 video, that we are now
learning will ship four years later. That means that we will have
shipped Gears of War and Gears of War 2 before they can even get
Killzone out the door.

Lying about Home and PlayStation Network

Think back to GDC 2007 when Sony promised to leap ahead in online with
the Sony Home unveil. Here we are two years later and multiple delays
for a product that has appears to have little to no buzz. Where are
the achievements? The friends list integration across all games? Where
is the long-promised video store?

Lying about PlayStation 3 hardware

Where are all the other products using and networking with their Cell
chip? How come Blu-ray did not result in better games? What happened
with Sixaxis and rumble? Where is the complete 1080p game library we
were promised? If Blu-ray, as they said, would be such a catalyst to
PS3 console sales, then why have PS3 sales over the past couple months
not seen any lift since the format victory?

It doesn’t help that Sony itself admitted failure, calling Home “too
ambitious”.



I just don't find the PS3 all that compelling.

I like the Haze demo. I like PAIN. I liked Ratchet (for as long as it
lasted.) But honestly, that's about it.

The rest of the games I buy on 360.

The PS3 needs more compelling original content. Period.

When titles are released on both platforms, historically the 360 sells
better, and in my opnion, performs better.

I want to love my PS3. So far it's a hot/cold sort of thing.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 6:22 pm
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HAHAHAHA!!! I don't call Jonah the Joke because the douche is funny
but because the faggot is such a pathetic joke. I am flattered, a top
executive at Micro$chizo is affected by me? I knew I was influential
but it seems I have really hit the nerve center now. This babbling
tirade smacks of desperation and fear plus the usual contradictory
hypocrisy that typifies Micro$plooge Marketing and their Marketing
Manual for xflop fanbitch zombies. Graphics? Uncharted exceeds
anything on the xflop 3-shitty and there is now a comparison saying
the latest in-game footage of Killzone 2 is *exceeding* the E3 2005
target render. Home being delayed is not a lie. Delays are common in
the video game industry. Where has this idiot been? If this is all
Micro$cared has, then the fear in the xflop 3-shitty division has hit
hysteria level over there. Good, good, good.

Jonah Falcon wrote:
> http://www.gamestooge.com/2008/05/09/microsoft-exec-greenberg-blasts-ps3/
>
> Microsoft�s Aaron Greenberg blasted Sony for its lying about the
> PlayStation 3, hurling such salvos as:
>
> Lying about PS3 Game Graphics
>
> We have been fighting Sony�s promises from the day we entered the
> market. Three years ago at E3 they showed what PS3 games would
> supposedly look like with the Killzone 2 video, that we are now
> learning will ship four years later. That means that we will have
> shipped Gears of War and Gears of War 2 before they can even get
> Killzone out the door.
>
> Lying about Home and PlayStation Network
>
> Think back to GDC 2007 when Sony promised to leap ahead in online with
> the Sony Home unveil. Here we are two years later and multiple delays
> for a product that has appears to have little to no buzz. Where are
> the achievements? The friends list integration across all games? Where
> is the long-promised video store?
>
> Lying about PlayStation 3 hardware
>
> Where are all the other products using and networking with their Cell
> chip? How come Blu-ray did not result in better games? What happened
> with Sixaxis and rumble? Where is the complete 1080p game library we
> were promised? If Blu-ray, as they said, would be such a catalyst to
> PS3 console sales, then why have PS3 sales over the past couple months
> not seen any lift since the format victory?
>
> It doesn�t help that Sony itself admitted failure, calling Home �too
> ambitious�.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 10:27 pm
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"Jonah Falcon" <jonahnynla DeleteThis @mindspring.com> wrote in message
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Man MS's PR department is on complete over drive the past couple months. I
wonder why?
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