Good game design must have good strategic gameplay

On Dec 8, 7:49 am, Dweeb <dbohnenber....RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "VinegarTast...@gmail.com" <VinegarTast....RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote innews:22d328b8-241b-4b37-9068-f3b13581aa52@j20g2000hsi.googlegroups.com:
>
> >http://www.edepot.com/gamintro.html
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> Your intro shows you have no knowledge of game design. "The evolution of
> games (and good game design) started with simple blocks of pixels (sprites)
> that were manipulated via a joystick." is simply not true. Games have
> existed for thousands of years.

Yes, even if we assume he is only talking about modern electronic
gaming, the first ones (that I recall) were those hand-held LCD
football games, which had a 3x10 array of lights and three buttons
(up, down, and forward).
Giving further benefit of the doubt, that the intention was only on an
actual computer, there were plenty of text-based games well before
there was even a concept of graphics in the sense he is using.
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"VinegarTasters@gmail.com" <VinegarTasters.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in
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> http://www.edepot.com/gamintro.html

Your intro shows you have no knowledge of game design. "The evolution of
games (and good game design) started with simple blocks of pixels (sprites)
that were manipulated via a joystick." is simply not true. Games have
existed for thousands of years.
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The Qurqirish Dragon <qurqirishd DeleteThis @aol.com> wrote in
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> Yes, even if we assume he is only talking about modern electronic
> gaming, the first ones (that I recall) were those hand-held LCD
> football games, which had a 3x10 array of lights and three buttons
> (up, down, and forward).

Hi, Matt! Fancy two EPGS members meeting here!

Thanks, I'd almost forgotten how much time I'd spent playing that damned
game.
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@q3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>, qurqirishd.TakeThisOut@aol.com says...
> On Dec 8, 7:49 am, Dweeb <dbohnenber....TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > "VinegarTast...@gmail.com" <VinegarTast....TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote innews:22d328b8-241b-4b37-9068-f3b13581aa52@j20g2000hsi.googlegroups.com:
> >
> > >http://www.edepot.com/gamintro.html
> >
> > Your intro shows you have no knowledge of game design. "The evolution of
> > games (and good game design) started with simple blocks of pixels (sprites)
> > that were manipulated via a joystick." is simply not true. Games have
> > existed for thousands of years.
>
> Yes, even if we assume he is only talking about modern electronic
> gaming, the first ones (that I recall) were those hand-held LCD
> football games, which had a 3x10 array of lights and three buttons
> (up, down, and forward).
> Giving further benefit of the doubt, that the intention was only on an
> actual computer, there were plenty of text-based games well before
> there was even a concept of graphics in the sense he is using.

Much more importantly, it includes the statement: "One major tradeoff
in the earlier days of games was having better graphics or more
intelligent gameplay." There has rarely been more than a sliver of
truth in this, even in the early days. Since AI does not scale well
with resources devoted to it, there is little noticeable difference in
the AI of a game whether it gets 10% or 90% of CPU.

- Gerry Quinn
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