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Simon Cooper

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 4:09 pm
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When Gaea's Liege attacks in a two headed giant game, what's its
power/toughness?

I suspect I incorrectly ruled for just one player's forests, whereas seems
to me the sum of the two is more likely the current philosophy. Just
doesn't seem consistent with the way you assign damage to only one player
(and of course, someone else was trying to split his damage from an Ophidian
eye'd creature to both players...)

Simon

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 9:55 pm
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Chances are suprisingly good that Simon Cooper was not wearing pants
when he or she said:
> When Gaea's Liege attacks in a two headed giant game, what's its
> power/toughness?
>
> I suspect I incorrectly ruled for just one player's forests, whereas seems
> to me the sum of the two is more likely the current philosophy. Just
> doesn't seem consistent with the way you assign damage to only one player
> (and of course, someone else was trying to split his damage from an Ophidian
> eye'd creature to both players...)

I think you actually ruled correctly, but I'm not sure.

As far as I can see, there are two defending players, and the rules for
2HG don't actually *say* "defending team" and "defending player" are
fully interchangeable. It would be one thing if GL got +1/+1 for each
forest the "defending player" controlled - then the bonuses would, in
effect, add up, in the same way as the two separate answers Dark
Confidant gets when it reveals a split card. But GL does not work that
way - it sets power and toughness to specific numbers (it's closer to
the way Void interacts with split cards, though the analogy isn't
perfect). So as far as I can see the attacking player would get a choice
of *which* defending player to work GL's power and toughness off of.

606.7a is the rule that can kinda be read to support the "add them up"
answer if you squint at it real hard, but it doesn't actually come out
and *say* anything that would clarify the issue.

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 3:51 pm
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"Simon Cooper" <swcooper.DeleteThis@conecast.net> writes:
> When Gaea's Liege attacks in a two headed giant game, what's its
> power/toughness?
>
> I suspect I incorrectly ruled for just one player's forests, whereas seems
> to me the sum of the two is more likely the current philosophy. Just
> doesn't seem consistent with the way you assign damage to only one player
> (and of course, someone else was trying to split his damage from an Ophidian
> eye'd creature to both players...)

What there an official answer ever posted to this? (I've been not
reading this newsgroup for a while, and I'm finally catching up. But
even Google Groups doesn't seem to show any answer other than Jeff
Heikkinen's.)

At the prerelease, I ruled that it was the sum of the two
players. The relevant text on Gaea's Liege is "As long as Gaea's Liege
is attacking, its power and toughness are each equal to the number of
Forests defending player controls." I figured that this was similar to
landwalk's text of "A creature with landwalk is unblockable as long as
the defending player controls at least one land with the specified
subtype and/or supertype" being interpreted as "...as long as *a*
defending players controls...", so I treating the Liege as "...number
of Forests *a* defending player controls," meaning that for each Forest,
if it's controlled by a defending player, it counts.

Selecting an opponent seems really strange to me, as it's a static
ability applying all the time. When would you select the opponent?

The only other answer would be for the Liege to have more than one
power/toughness (like the pre-errata Duplicant with more than one
imprinted card). But I didn't want to go there, so I ruled that it was
the sum.

But an official answer to this would be kind of nice. Smile

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 3:51 pm
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"Simon Cooper" <swcooper.DeleteThis@conecast.net> writes:
> When Gaea's Liege attacks in a two headed giant game, what's its
> power/toughness?
>
> I suspect I incorrectly ruled for just one player's forests, whereas seems
> to me the sum of the two is more likely the current philosophy. Just
> doesn't seem consistent with the way you assign damage to only one player
> (and of course, someone else was trying to split his damage from an Ophidian
> eye'd creature to both players...)

What there an official answer ever posted to this? (I've been not
reading this newsgroup for a while, and I'm finally catching up. But
even Google Groups doesn't seem to show any answer other than Jeff
Heikkinen's.)

At the prerelease, I ruled that it was the sum of the two
players. The relevant text on Gaea's Liege is "As long as Gaea's Liege
is attacking, its power and toughness are each equal to the number of
Forests defending player controls." I figured that this was similar to
landwalk's text of "A creature with landwalk is unblockable as long as
the defending player controls at least one land with the specified
subtype and/or supertype" being interpreted as "...as long as *a*
defending players controls...", so I treating the Liege as "...number
of Forests *a* defending player controls," meaning that for each Forest,
if it's controlled by a defending player, it counts.

Selecting an opponent seems really strange to me, as it's a static
ability applying all the time. When would you select the opponent?

The only other answer would be for the Liege to have more than one
power/toughness (like the pre-errata Duplicant with more than one
imprinted card). But I didn't want to go there, so I ruled that it was
the sum.

But an official answer to this would be kind of nice. Smile

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 3:51 pm
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"Simon Cooper" <swcooper.DeleteThis@conecast.net> writes:
> When Gaea's Liege attacks in a two headed giant game, what's its
> power/toughness?
>
> I suspect I incorrectly ruled for just one player's forests, whereas seems
> to me the sum of the two is more likely the current philosophy. Just
> doesn't seem consistent with the way you assign damage to only one player
> (and of course, someone else was trying to split his damage from an Ophidian
> eye'd creature to both players...)

What there an official answer ever posted to this? (I've been not
reading this newsgroup for a while, and I'm finally catching up. But
even Google Groups doesn't seem to show any answer other than Jeff
Heikkinen's.)

At the prerelease, I ruled that it was the sum of the two
players. The relevant text on Gaea's Liege is "As long as Gaea's Liege
is attacking, its power and toughness are each equal to the number of
Forests defending player controls." I figured that this was similar to
landwalk's text of "A creature with landwalk is unblockable as long as
the defending player controls at least one land with the specified
subtype and/or supertype" being interpreted as "...as long as *a*
defending players controls...", so I treating the Liege as "...number
of Forests *a* defending player controls," meaning that for each Forest,
if it's controlled by a defending player, it counts.

Selecting an opponent seems really strange to me, as it's a static
ability applying all the time. When would you select the opponent?

The only other answer would be for the Liege to have more than one
power/toughness (like the pre-errata Duplicant with more than one
imprinted card). But I didn't want to go there, so I ruled that it was
the sum.

But an official answer to this would be kind of nice. Smile

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Peter C.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 3:51 pm
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"Simon Cooper" <swcooper.RemoveThis@conecast.net> writes:
> When Gaea's Liege attacks in a two headed giant game, what's its
> power/toughness?
>
> I suspect I incorrectly ruled for just one player's forests, whereas seems
> to me the sum of the two is more likely the current philosophy. Just
> doesn't seem consistent with the way you assign damage to only one player
> (and of course, someone else was trying to split his damage from an Ophidian
> eye'd creature to both players...)

What there an official answer ever posted to this? (I've been not
reading this newsgroup for a while, and I'm finally catching up. But
even Google Groups doesn't seem to show any answer other than Jeff
Heikkinen's.)

At the prerelease, I ruled that it was the sum of the two
players. The relevant text on Gaea's Liege is "As long as Gaea's Liege
is attacking, its power and toughness are each equal to the number of
Forests defending player controls." I figured that this was similar to
landwalk's text of "A creature with landwalk is unblockable as long as
the defending player controls at least one land with the specified
subtype and/or supertype" being interpreted as "...as long as *a*
defending players controls...", so I treating the Liege as "...number
of Forests *a* defending player controls," meaning that for each Forest,
if it's controlled by a defending player, it counts.

Selecting an opponent seems really strange to me, as it's a static
ability applying all the time. When would you select the opponent?

The only other answer would be for the Liege to have more than one
power/toughness (like the pre-errata Duplicant with more than one
imprinted card). But I didn't want to go there, so I ruled that it was
the sum.

But an official answer to this would be kind of nice. Smile

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 3:51 pm
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"Simon Cooper" <swcooper DeleteThis @conecast.net> writes:
> When Gaea's Liege attacks in a two headed giant game, what's its
> power/toughness?
>
> I suspect I incorrectly ruled for just one player's forests, whereas seems
> to me the sum of the two is more likely the current philosophy. Just
> doesn't seem consistent with the way you assign damage to only one player
> (and of course, someone else was trying to split his damage from an Ophidian
> eye'd creature to both players...)

What there an official answer ever posted to this? (I've been not
reading this newsgroup for a while, and I'm finally catching up. But
even Google Groups doesn't seem to show any answer other than Jeff
Heikkinen's.)

At the prerelease, I ruled that it was the sum of the two
players. The relevant text on Gaea's Liege is "As long as Gaea's Liege
is attacking, its power and toughness are each equal to the number of
Forests defending player controls." I figured that this was similar to
landwalk's text of "A creature with landwalk is unblockable as long as
the defending player controls at least one land with the specified
subtype and/or supertype" being interpreted as "...as long as *a*
defending players controls...", so I treating the Liege as "...number
of Forests *a* defending player controls," meaning that for each Forest,
if it's controlled by a defending player, it counts.

Selecting an opponent seems really strange to me, as it's a static
ability applying all the time. When would you select the opponent?

The only other answer would be for the Liege to have more than one
power/toughness (like the pre-errata Duplicant with more than one
imprinted card). But I didn't want to go there, so I ruled that it was
the sum.

But an official answer to this would be kind of nice. Smile

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Peter C.
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 3:51 pm
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"Simon Cooper" <swcooper DeleteThis @conecast.net> writes:
> When Gaea's Liege attacks in a two headed giant game, what's its
> power/toughness?
>
> I suspect I incorrectly ruled for just one player's forests, whereas seems
> to me the sum of the two is more likely the current philosophy. Just
> doesn't seem consistent with the way you assign damage to only one player
> (and of course, someone else was trying to split his damage from an Ophidian
> eye'd creature to both players...)

What there an official answer ever posted to this? (I've been not
reading this newsgroup for a while, and I'm finally catching up. But
even Google Groups doesn't seem to show any answer other than Jeff
Heikkinen's.)

At the prerelease, I ruled that it was the sum of the two
players. The relevant text on Gaea's Liege is "As long as Gaea's Liege
is attacking, its power and toughness are each equal to the number of
Forests defending player controls." I figured that this was similar to
landwalk's text of "A creature with landwalk is unblockable as long as
the defending player controls at least one land with the specified
subtype and/or supertype" being interpreted as "...as long as *a*
defending players controls...", so I treating the Liege as "...number
of Forests *a* defending player controls," meaning that for each Forest,
if it's controlled by a defending player, it counts.

Selecting an opponent seems really strange to me, as it's a static
ability applying all the time. When would you select the opponent?

The only other answer would be for the Liege to have more than one
power/toughness (like the pre-errata Duplicant with more than one
imprinted card). But I didn't want to go there, so I ruled that it was
the sum.

But an official answer to this would be kind of nice. Smile

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 3:51 pm
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"Simon Cooper" <swcooper.RemoveThis@conecast.net> writes:
> When Gaea's Liege attacks in a two headed giant game, what's its
> power/toughness?
>
> I suspect I incorrectly ruled for just one player's forests, whereas seems
> to me the sum of the two is more likely the current philosophy. Just
> doesn't seem consistent with the way you assign damage to only one player
> (and of course, someone else was trying to split his damage from an Ophidian
> eye'd creature to both players...)

What there an official answer ever posted to this? (I've been not
reading this newsgroup for a while, and I'm finally catching up. But
even Google Groups doesn't seem to show any answer other than Jeff
Heikkinen's.)

At the prerelease, I ruled that it was the sum of the two
players. The relevant text on Gaea's Liege is "As long as Gaea's Liege
is attacking, its power and toughness are each equal to the number of
Forests defending player controls." I figured that this was similar to
landwalk's text of "A creature with landwalk is unblockable as long as
the defending player controls at least one land with the specified
subtype and/or supertype" being interpreted as "...as long as *a*
defending players controls...", so I treating the Liege as "...number
of Forests *a* defending player controls," meaning that for each Forest,
if it's controlled by a defending player, it counts.

Selecting an opponent seems really strange to me, as it's a static
ability applying all the time. When would you select the opponent?

The only other answer would be for the Liege to have more than one
power/toughness (like the pre-errata Duplicant with more than one
imprinted card). But I didn't want to go there, so I ruled that it was
the sum.

But an official answer to this would be kind of nice. Smile

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 3:51 pm
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"Simon Cooper" <swcooper.DeleteThis@conecast.net> writes:
> When Gaea's Liege attacks in a two headed giant game, what's its
> power/toughness?
>
> I suspect I incorrectly ruled for just one player's forests, whereas seems
> to me the sum of the two is more likely the current philosophy. Just
> doesn't seem consistent with the way you assign damage to only one player
> (and of course, someone else was trying to split his damage from an Ophidian
> eye'd creature to both players...)

What there an official answer ever posted to this? (I've been not
reading this newsgroup for a while, and I'm finally catching up. But
even Google Groups doesn't seem to show any answer other than Jeff
Heikkinen's.)

At the prerelease, I ruled that it was the sum of the two
players. The relevant text on Gaea's Liege is "As long as Gaea's Liege
is attacking, its power and toughness are each equal to the number of
Forests defending player controls." I figured that this was similar to
landwalk's text of "A creature with landwalk is unblockable as long as
the defending player controls at least one land with the specified
subtype and/or supertype" being interpreted as "...as long as *a*
defending players controls...", so I treating the Liege as "...number
of Forests *a* defending player controls," meaning that for each Forest,
if it's controlled by a defending player, it counts.

Selecting an opponent seems really strange to me, as it's a static
ability applying all the time. When would you select the opponent?

The only other answer would be for the Liege to have more than one
power/toughness (like the pre-errata Duplicant with more than one
imprinted card). But I didn't want to go there, so I ruled that it was
the sum.

But an official answer to this would be kind of nice. Smile

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(Msg. 11) Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 3:51 pm
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"Simon Cooper" <swcooper.DeleteThis@conecast.net> writes:
> When Gaea's Liege attacks in a two headed giant game, what's its
> power/toughness?
>
> I suspect I incorrectly ruled for just one player's forests, whereas seems
> to me the sum of the two is more likely the current philosophy. Just
> doesn't seem consistent with the way you assign damage to only one player
> (and of course, someone else was trying to split his damage from an Ophidian
> eye'd creature to both players...)

What there an official answer ever posted to this? (I've been not
reading this newsgroup for a while, and I'm finally catching up. But
even Google Groups doesn't seem to show any answer other than Jeff
Heikkinen's.)

At the prerelease, I ruled that it was the sum of the two
players. The relevant text on Gaea's Liege is "As long as Gaea's Liege
is attacking, its power and toughness are each equal to the number of
Forests defending player controls." I figured that this was similar to
landwalk's text of "A creature with landwalk is unblockable as long as
the defending player controls at least one land with the specified
subtype and/or supertype" being interpreted as "...as long as *a*
defending players controls...", so I treating the Liege as "...number
of Forests *a* defending player controls," meaning that for each Forest,
if it's controlled by a defending player, it counts.

Selecting an opponent seems really strange to me, as it's a static
ability applying all the time. When would you select the opponent?

The only other answer would be for the Liege to have more than one
power/toughness (like the pre-errata Duplicant with more than one
imprinted card). But I didn't want to go there, so I ruled that it was
the sum.

But an official answer to this would be kind of nice. Smile

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(Msg. 12) Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 3:51 pm
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"Simon Cooper" <swcooper.RemoveThis@conecast.net> writes:
> When Gaea's Liege attacks in a two headed giant game, what's its
> power/toughness?
>
> I suspect I incorrectly ruled for just one player's forests, whereas seems
> to me the sum of the two is more likely the current philosophy. Just
> doesn't seem consistent with the way you assign damage to only one player
> (and of course, someone else was trying to split his damage from an Ophidian
> eye'd creature to both players...)

What there an official answer ever posted to this? (I've been not
reading this newsgroup for a while, and I'm finally catching up. But
even Google Groups doesn't seem to show any answer other than Jeff
Heikkinen's.)

At the prerelease, I ruled that it was the sum of the two
players. The relevant text on Gaea's Liege is "As long as Gaea's Liege
is attacking, its power and toughness are each equal to the number of
Forests defending player controls." I figured that this was similar to
landwalk's text of "A creature with landwalk is unblockable as long as
the defending player controls at least one land with the specified
subtype and/or supertype" being interpreted as "...as long as *a*
defending players controls...", so I treating the Liege as "...number
of Forests *a* defending player controls," meaning that for each Forest,
if it's controlled by a defending player, it counts.

Selecting an opponent seems really strange to me, as it's a static
ability applying all the time. When would you select the opponent?

The only other answer would be for the Liege to have more than one
power/toughness (like the pre-errata Duplicant with more than one
imprinted card). But I didn't want to go there, so I ruled that it was
the sum.

But an official answer to this would be kind of nice. Smile

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(Msg. 13) Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 3:51 pm
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"Simon Cooper" <swcooper DeleteThis @conecast.net> writes:
> When Gaea's Liege attacks in a two headed giant game, what's its
> power/toughness?
>
> I suspect I incorrectly ruled for just one player's forests, whereas seems
> to me the sum of the two is more likely the current philosophy. Just
> doesn't seem consistent with the way you assign damage to only one player
> (and of course, someone else was trying to split his damage from an Ophidian
> eye'd creature to both players...)

What there an official answer ever posted to this? (I've been not
reading this newsgroup for a while, and I'm finally catching up. But
even Google Groups doesn't seem to show any answer other than Jeff
Heikkinen's.)

At the prerelease, I ruled that it was the sum of the two
players. The relevant text on Gaea's Liege is "As long as Gaea's Liege
is attacking, its power and toughness are each equal to the number of
Forests defending player controls." I figured that this was similar to
landwalk's text of "A creature with landwalk is unblockable as long as
the defending player controls at least one land with the specified
subtype and/or supertype" being interpreted as "...as long as *a*
defending players controls...", so I treating the Liege as "...number
of Forests *a* defending player controls," meaning that for each Forest,
if it's controlled by a defending player, it counts.

Selecting an opponent seems really strange to me, as it's a static
ability applying all the time. When would you select the opponent?

The only other answer would be for the Liege to have more than one
power/toughness (like the pre-errata Duplicant with more than one
imprinted card). But I didn't want to go there, so I ruled that it was
the sum.

But an official answer to this would be kind of nice. Smile

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"Simon Cooper" <swcooper RemoveThis @conecast.net> writes:
> When Gaea's Liege attacks in a two headed giant game, what's its
> power/toughness?
>
> I suspect I incorrectly ruled for just one player's forests, whereas seems
> to me the sum of the two is more likely the current philosophy. Just
> doesn't seem consistent with the way you assign damage to only one player
> (and of course, someone else was trying to split his damage from an Ophidian
> eye'd creature to both players...)

What there an official answer ever posted to this? (I've been not
reading this newsgroup for a while, and I'm finally catching up. But
even Google Groups doesn't seem to show any answer other than Jeff
Heikkinen's.)

At the prerelease, I ruled that it was the sum of the two
players. The relevant text on Gaea's Liege is "As long as Gaea's Liege
is attacking, its power and toughness are each equal to the number of
Forests defending player controls." I figured that this was similar to
landwalk's text of "A creature with landwalk is unblockable as long as
the defending player controls at least one land with the specified
subtype and/or supertype" being interpreted as "...as long as *a*
defending players controls...", so I treating the Liege as "...number
of Forests *a* defending player controls," meaning that for each Forest,
if it's controlled by a defending player, it counts.

Selecting an opponent seems really strange to me, as it's a static
ability applying all the time. When would you select the opponent?

The only other answer would be for the Liege to have more than one
power/toughness (like the pre-errata Duplicant with more than one
imprinted card). But I didn't want to go there, so I ruled that it was
the sum.

But an official answer to this would be kind of nice. Smile

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"Simon Cooper" <swcooper DeleteThis @conecast.net> writes:
> When Gaea's Liege attacks in a two headed giant game, what's its
> power/toughness?
>
> I suspect I incorrectly ruled for just one player's forests, whereas seems
> to me the sum of the two is more likely the current philosophy. Just
> doesn't seem consistent with the way you assign damage to only one player
> (and of course, someone else was trying to split his damage from an Ophidian
> eye'd creature to both players...)

What there an official answer ever posted to this? (I've been not
reading this newsgroup for a while, and I'm finally catching up. But
even Google Groups doesn't seem to show any answer other than Jeff
Heikkinen's.)

At the prerelease, I ruled that it was the sum of the two
players. The relevant text on Gaea's Liege is "As long as Gaea's Liege
is attacking, its power and toughness are each equal to the number of
Forests defending player controls." I figured that this was similar to
landwalk's text of "A creature with landwalk is unblockable as long as
the defending player controls at least one land with the specified
subtype and/or supertype" being interpreted as "...as long as *a*
defending players controls...", so I treating the Liege as "...number
of Forests *a* defending player controls," meaning that for each Forest,
if it's controlled by a defending player, it counts.

Selecting an opponent seems really strange to me, as it's a static
ability applying all the time. When would you select the opponent?

The only other answer would be for the Liege to have more than one
power/toughness (like the pre-errata Duplicant with more than one
imprinted card). But I didn't want to go there, so I ruled that it was
the sum.

But an official answer to this would be kind of nice. Smile

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