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Alan Ritchie wrote:
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>
>
> What I find interesting is that some of these suggestions are close to the
> old epic/space marine/titan legions ruleset, which predates 40k2. I do not
> think that the current 40k rules are ideal, but I think I can defend any of
> them on the grounds of speed, unpredictability (difficult terrain), or the
> search for a good, rather than realistic, game, but perhaps not for their
> elegance. But obviously we can always shift the balance in favour of a
> faster or more detailed game.
>
I loved the old Space Marine Game. I played that before I got into 40k.
I thought the orders system worked well.
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Berto wrote:
> "Jim M" <hnjcomics.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> > In article <BrxAg.67422$9c6.451@dukeread11>, Albertocarro.RemoveThis@msn.com
> > says...
> >>
> >> "Jim M" <hnjcomics.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:MPG.1f3c499e8b2cfda4989748@news.east.earthlink.net...
> >> > In article <Q%vAg.67411$9c6.49497@dukeread11>, Albertocarro.RemoveThis@msn.com
> >> > says...
> >> >>
> >> >> <donovan_borman.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:1154647409.436537.144570@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
> >> >> >
> >> >> > estarriol wrote:
> >> >> >> "Jim M" <hnjcomics.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> >> >> news:MPG.1f3c27bd76a5c039989746@news.east.earthlink.net...
> >> >> >> > In article <bupAg.9901$j9.2919@trnddc02>,
> >> >> >> > JohnHwangCSI.RemoveThis@cs.com.no.com
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> The Warstore solves this problem.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > How exactly can the Warstore solve the problem of me having to
> >> >> >> > drive
> >> >> >> > 80
> >> >> >> > miles round trip to play a game or fix the price of gas?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Given the good afterservice Neal and Warstore do I am surprised he
> >> >> >> hasn't
> >> >> >> shipped you an opponant.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > If they trained russian mail-order brides to paint figs and play
> >> >> > wargames he'd probably carry them at 20% off.
> >> >>
> >> >> This thread may hold itself up just by itself. Coke dribbled down my
> >> >> lips
> >> >> reading this. Way to go Neal!
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > Dribbled down your lips... come-on guys we can do better then dribbled
> >> > down his lips. That response doesn't even warrent reaching for a towel.
> >> > What we need is a full blown nasel blasting keyboard soaker!
> >>
> >> Yeah, coming from a guy that needs Viagra telling us the response needs a
> >> little more push. uh uh. Hey like you, I don't know when I get lucky.
> >>
> >
> > needs via...got news for you old man, my wife and I still play hide the
> > salami several times a week, without any little blue pills...
>
> Ask her if it is salami or cole slaw.

*projectile vomits on keyboard*
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In article <Q%vAg.67411$9c6.49497@dukeread11>, Albertocarro DeleteThis @msn.com
says...
>
> <donovan_borman DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> >
> > estarriol wrote:
> >> "Jim M" <hnjcomics DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:MPG.1f3c27bd76a5c039989746@news.east.earthlink.net...
> >> > In article <bupAg.9901$j9.2919@trnddc02>, JohnHwangCSI DeleteThis @cs.com.no.com
> >
> >> >> The Warstore solves this problem.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> > How exactly can the Warstore solve the problem of me having to drive 80
> >> > miles round trip to play a game or fix the price of gas?
> >>
> >> Given the good afterservice Neal and Warstore do I am surprised he hasn't
> >> shipped you an opponant.
> >
> > If they trained russian mail-order brides to paint figs and play
> > wargames he'd probably carry them at 20% off.
>
> This thread may hold itself up just by itself. Coke dribbled down my lips
> reading this. Way to go Neal!
>

Dribbled down your lips... come-on guys we can do better then dribbled
down his lips. That response doesn't even warrent reaching for a towel.
What we need is a full blown nasel blasting keyboard soaker!
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"Jim M" <hnjcomics DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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> In article <Q%vAg.67411$9c6.49497@dukeread11>, Albertocarro DeleteThis @msn.com
> says...
>>
>> <donovan_borman DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:1154647409.436537.144570@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
>> >
>> > estarriol wrote:
>> >> "Jim M" <hnjcomics DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:MPG.1f3c27bd76a5c039989746@news.east.earthlink.net...
>> >> > In article <bupAg.9901$j9.2919@trnddc02>, JohnHwangCSI DeleteThis @cs.com.no.com
>> >
>> >> >> The Warstore solves this problem.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> > How exactly can the Warstore solve the problem of me having to drive
>> >> > 80
>> >> > miles round trip to play a game or fix the price of gas?
>> >>
>> >> Given the good afterservice Neal and Warstore do I am surprised he
>> >> hasn't
>> >> shipped you an opponant.
>> >
>> > If they trained russian mail-order brides to paint figs and play
>> > wargames he'd probably carry them at 20% off.
>>
>> This thread may hold itself up just by itself. Coke dribbled down my lips
>> reading this. Way to go Neal!
>>
>
> Dribbled down your lips... come-on guys we can do better then dribbled
> down his lips. That response doesn't even warrent reaching for a towel.
> What we need is a full blown nasel blasting keyboard soaker!

Yeah, coming from a guy that needs Viagra telling us the response needs a
little more push. uh uh. Hey like you, I don't know when I get lucky.

berto
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In article <BrxAg.67422$9c6.451@dukeread11>, Albertocarro DeleteThis @msn.com
says...
>
> "Jim M" <hnjcomics DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG.1f3c499e8b2cfda4989748@news.east.earthlink.net...
> > In article <Q%vAg.67411$9c6.49497@dukeread11>, Albertocarro DeleteThis @msn.com
> > says...
> >>
> >> <donovan_borman DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> news:1154647409.436537.144570@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
> >> >
> >> > estarriol wrote:
> >> >> "Jim M" <hnjcomics DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:MPG.1f3c27bd76a5c039989746@news.east.earthlink.net...
> >> >> > In article <bupAg.9901$j9.2919@trnddc02>, JohnHwangCSI DeleteThis @cs.com.no.com
> >> >
> >> >> >> The Warstore solves this problem.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> > How exactly can the Warstore solve the problem of me having to drive
> >> >> > 80
> >> >> > miles round trip to play a game or fix the price of gas?
> >> >>
> >> >> Given the good afterservice Neal and Warstore do I am surprised he
> >> >> hasn't
> >> >> shipped you an opponant.
> >> >
> >> > If they trained russian mail-order brides to paint figs and play
> >> > wargames he'd probably carry them at 20% off.
> >>
> >> This thread may hold itself up just by itself. Coke dribbled down my lips
> >> reading this. Way to go Neal!
> >>
> >
> > Dribbled down your lips... come-on guys we can do better then dribbled
> > down his lips. That response doesn't even warrent reaching for a towel.
> > What we need is a full blown nasel blasting keyboard soaker!
>
> Yeah, coming from a guy that needs Viagra telling us the response needs a
> little more push. uh uh. Hey like you, I don't know when I get lucky.
>

needs via...got news for you old man, my wife and I still play hide the
salami several times a week, without any little blue pills...
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"Jim M" <hnjcomics DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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> In article <BrxAg.67422$9c6.451@dukeread11>, Albertocarro DeleteThis @msn.com
> says...
>>
>> "Jim M" <hnjcomics DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:MPG.1f3c499e8b2cfda4989748@news.east.earthlink.net...
>> > In article <Q%vAg.67411$9c6.49497@dukeread11>, Albertocarro DeleteThis @msn.com
>> > says...
>> >>
>> >> <donovan_borman DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:1154647409.436537.144570@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
>> >> >
>> >> > estarriol wrote:
>> >> >> "Jim M" <hnjcomics DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:MPG.1f3c27bd76a5c039989746@news.east.earthlink.net...
>> >> >> > In article <bupAg.9901$j9.2919@trnddc02>,
>> >> >> > JohnHwangCSI DeleteThis @cs.com.no.com
>> >> >
>> >> >> >> The Warstore solves this problem.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> > How exactly can the Warstore solve the problem of me having to
>> >> >> > drive
>> >> >> > 80
>> >> >> > miles round trip to play a game or fix the price of gas?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Given the good afterservice Neal and Warstore do I am surprised he
>> >> >> hasn't
>> >> >> shipped you an opponant.
>> >> >
>> >> > If they trained russian mail-order brides to paint figs and play
>> >> > wargames he'd probably carry them at 20% off.
>> >>
>> >> This thread may hold itself up just by itself. Coke dribbled down my
>> >> lips
>> >> reading this. Way to go Neal!
>> >>
>> >
>> > Dribbled down your lips... come-on guys we can do better then dribbled
>> > down his lips. That response doesn't even warrent reaching for a towel.
>> > What we need is a full blown nasel blasting keyboard soaker!
>>
>> Yeah, coming from a guy that needs Viagra telling us the response needs a
>> little more push. uh uh. Hey like you, I don't know when I get lucky.
>>
>
> needs via...got news for you old man, my wife and I still play hide the
> salami several times a week, without any little blue pills...

Ask her if it is salami or cole slaw.

berto
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In article <1154660362.900049.100240 RemoveThis @h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
donovan_borman RemoveThis @yahoo.com says...
> > > needs via...got news for you old man, my wife and I still play hide the
> > > salami several times a week, without any little blue pills...
> >
> > Ask her if it is salami or cole slaw.
>
> *projectile vomits on keyboard*

HELL YEAH! That's better then blowing Soda out of your nose...
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Jim M wrote:
> JohnHwangCSI DeleteThis @cs.com.no.com says...
>>> add to that the distance I have to travel for a game (80 miles round
>>> trip) and the price of gas currently, and I'm not much interested in
>>> upgrading my armies...
>>
>> The Warstore solves this problem.
>
> How exactly can the Warstore solve the problem of me having to drive 80
> miles round trip to play a game or fix the price of gas?

I thought it was a distant shop issue, not a distant opponent issue.

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"John Hwang" <JohnHwangCSI DeleteThis @cs.com.no.com> wrote in message
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> Jim M wrote:
>> JohnHwangCSI DeleteThis @cs.com.no.com says...
>>>> add to that the distance I have to travel for a game (80 miles round
>>>> trip) and the price of gas currently, and I'm not much interested in
>>>> upgrading my armies...
>>>
>>> The Warstore solves this problem.
>>
>> How exactly can the Warstore solve the problem of me having to drive 80
>> miles round trip to play a game or fix the price of gas?
>
> I thought it was a distant shop issue, not a distant opponent issue.
>
Well given the Texans general boasts about size surely 80miles is just up
the road and turn right?

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In article <eauu1b$lht$1$8302bc10@news.demon.co.uk>,
estarriol.RemoveThis@estarriol.jeansNTshirt.co.uk says...
>
> "John Hwang" <JohnHwangCSI.RemoveThis@cs.com.no.com> wrote in message
> news:ehzAg.10310$j9.7802@trnddc02...
> > Jim M wrote:
> >> JohnHwangCSI.RemoveThis@cs.com.no.com says...
> >>>> add to that the distance I have to travel for a game (80 miles round
> >>>> trip) and the price of gas currently, and I'm not much interested in
> >>>> upgrading my armies...
> >>>
> >>> The Warstore solves this problem.
> >>
> >> How exactly can the Warstore solve the problem of me having to drive 80
> >> miles round trip to play a game or fix the price of gas?
> >
> > I thought it was a distant shop issue, not a distant opponent issue.
> >
> Well given the Texans general boasts about size surely 80miles is just up
> the road and turn right?
>
Where talking anywhere from 90 minutes to two hours driving time
depending on traffic, plus at least $10 in gas just to go and no
guarantee that I will find an opponent or open table when I get there.
After three trips and no game I decided it wasn't worth it. The time or
money it takes to go.
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In article <MPG.1f3ce9ea247ffcc998974d.DeleteThis@news.east.earthlink.net>,
hnjcomics.DeleteThis@gmail.com says...
> In article <eauu1b$lht$1$8302bc10@news.demon.co.uk>,
> estarriol.DeleteThis@estarriol.jeansNTshirt.co.uk says...
> >
> > "John Hwang" <JohnHwangCSI.DeleteThis@cs.com.no.com> wrote in message
> > news:ehzAg.10310$j9.7802@trnddc02...
> > > Jim M wrote:
> > >> JohnHwangCSI.DeleteThis@cs.com.no.com says...
> > >>>> add to that the distance I have to travel for a game (80 miles round
> > >>>> trip) and the price of gas currently, and I'm not much interested in
> > >>>> upgrading my armies...
> > >>>
> > >>> The Warstore solves this problem.
> > >>
> > >> How exactly can the Warstore solve the problem of me having to drive 80
> > >> miles round trip to play a game or fix the price of gas?
> > >
> > > I thought it was a distant shop issue, not a distant opponent issue.
> > >
> > Well given the Texans general boasts about size surely 80miles is just up
> > the road and turn right?
> >
> Where talking anywhere from 90 minutes to two hours driving time
> depending on traffic, plus at least $10 in gas just to go and no
> guarantee that I will find an opponent or open table when I get there.
> After three trips and no game I decided it wasn't worth it. The time or
> money it takes to go.
>
that should have been We're not Where...
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"Jim M" <hnjcomics DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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> In article <MPG.1f3ce9ea247ffcc998974d DeleteThis @news.east.earthlink.net>,
> hnjcomics DeleteThis @gmail.com says...
>> In article <eauu1b$lht$1$8302bc10@news.demon.co.uk>,
>> estarriol DeleteThis @estarriol.jeansNTshirt.co.uk says...
>> >
>> > "John Hwang" <JohnHwangCSI DeleteThis @cs.com.no.com> wrote in message
>> > news:ehzAg.10310$j9.7802@trnddc02...
>> > > Jim M wrote:
>> > >> JohnHwangCSI DeleteThis @cs.com.no.com says...
>> > >>>> add to that the distance I have to travel for a game (80 miles
>> > >>>> round
>> > >>>> trip) and the price of gas currently, and I'm not much interested
>> > >>>> in
>> > >>>> upgrading my armies...
>> > >>>
>> > >>> The Warstore solves this problem.
>> > >>
>> > >> How exactly can the Warstore solve the problem of me having to drive
>> > >> 80
>> > >> miles round trip to play a game or fix the price of gas?
>> > >
>> > > I thought it was a distant shop issue, not a distant opponent issue.
>> > >
>> > Well given the Texans general boasts about size surely 80miles is just
>> > up
>> > the road and turn right?
>> >
>> Where talking anywhere from 90 minutes to two hours driving time
>> depending on traffic, plus at least $10 in gas just to go and no
>> guarantee that I will find an opponent or open table when I get there.
>> After three trips and no game I decided it wasn't worth it. The time or
>> money it takes to go.
>>
> that should have been We're not Where...

My problem in my town is that I am sort of out of the loop and need to call
a lot to find when the store will have games. I am not a bad player so I win
a few and lose a few more, but even now going twenty minutes stop and go and
then finding no tables open, it gets frustrating. My job does not lend
itself to well for going at any time but I try. When I go, people come to
talk to me as if I own the store (maybe it is the age thing). The other
issue is that people are playing more the card games which do not generally
excite me. The other issue is that it becomes a clique club and if you don't
belong, you kind of have to work hard to get a game going.

Berto
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Thus saith "Ward B." <wardcb.RemoveThis@NOSPAMearthlink.net> the Unworthy, in
the year of Our Lord, Wed, 02 Aug 2006 08:27:05 GMT:

>Interestingly, the local GW store [Glendale] is making some efforts to add
>value. They're hosting tournaments, offering free painting and modeling
>classes, and other such events. I'm not convinced these are *successful*
>efforts, but they are at least trying to offer more than an independent
>hobby shop.

I doubt it will do much to help. The local GW store (Seattle) is also
doing the same thing, but it doesn't really seem to bring in the sort
of business that would make them profitable in the long term.

Plus, WotC tried the same thing with their big flagship Game Center
here, with lots of playspace, tourneys, classes, and lots of events.
They had some of the most up-to-date and advanced game systems as
well, but found that maintenance costs and other overhead cut into
their profits far too much. I've known a lot of people that worked
for WotC since their inception, and the GC and other shops were a lot
of fun, at least as much for employees as patrons, but simply didn't
make them money.

Hardrock, who knows far too many people involved in the "glory days"
at both Wizards of the Coast and White Wolf.
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