[GW] [40k] Warhammer World House Rules

JohnPaulPontiff.DeleteThis@gmail.com wrote:

> As to the Gets Hot ruling on pg3 -
>
> Per RB p30, a single shot has a 1/6 chance of Wounding the Firer.
> But, 2 or 3 shots have a 2/6 or 3/6 chance of Wounding.
> The only time Wounds is pluralised is in the abstract -
> When they're referring to Wounds in general.
>
> So, imo - one roll, one Wound.

As a relative newcomer (5 years or so) to 40K, I've obviously picked up
bias to the local interpretations of things.

This should certainly open some eyes at the FLGS when we have our next
game. "No, Kaptin Badrukk takes only one wound... and he saves!".
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> Hey,
>
> On Feb 27, 2:39 pm, "Spack" <n....TakeThisOut@worldofspack.co.uk> wrote:
>> Did you miss the entire line stating "Warhammer 40,000 Grand Tournament"
>
> Well, as Warhammer World is the 'House", it's natural to presume ...
> wait.
> Are you saying that, in the UK, the official FAQ is just *called*
> House Rules?

For the Grand Tournament, yes. It includes things that are obviously wrong,
which maybe just to help streamline the games. This "FAQ" doesn't apply
outside of the UK GT.

> [shrug] Whatever their origin, I note, on p10 of these (Studio?) House
> Rules:
>
> +++
>
> Q. Can an Autarch on a Jetbike carrying a Reaper Launcher move-fire-
> move/assault?
> A. Yes
>
> +++
>
> Would anyone care to comment on that interpretation?

Rulebook page 54 states that if rapid fire or heavy weapons may be fired if
the unit moves and the jetbike can still charge. It doesn't say only if the
weapon is mounted on the bike rather than carried, the mounting only applies
to rapid fire weapons firing at full range.

> As to the Gets Hot ruling on pg3 -
>
> Per RB p30, a single shot has a 1/6 chance of Wounding the Firer.
> But, 2 or 3 shots have a 2/6 or 3/6 chance of Wounding.
> The only time Wounds is pluralised is in the abstract -
> When they're referring to Wounds in general.

I guess you haven't worked out probabilities for a long time.

When rolling 2 dice, the chance of either being a 1 or a 2 is 20/36. 2/3 =
24/36 which is not the same.

For a 1, 2 or 3 it's not 3/6 either. My probability math isn't up to sorting
that one out this morning.

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"Spack" <news.DeleteThis@worldofspack.co.uk> wrote in message
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> <JohnPaulPontiff.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:0bf463bd-0924-47e1-834c-9304a78315e8@41g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> Hey,
>>
>> On Feb 27, 2:39 pm, "Spack" <n....DeleteThis@worldofspack.co.uk> wrote:
>>> Did you miss the entire line stating "Warhammer 40,000 Grand Tournament"
>>
>> Well, as Warhammer World is the 'House", it's natural to presume ...
>> wait.
>> Are you saying that, in the UK, the official FAQ is just *called*
>> House Rules?
>
> For the Grand Tournament, yes. It includes things that are obviously
> wrong, which maybe just to help streamline the games. This "FAQ" doesn't
> apply outside of the UK GT.
>
>> [shrug] Whatever their origin, I note, on p10 of these (Studio?) House
>> Rules:
>>
>> +++
>>
>> Q. Can an Autarch on a Jetbike carrying a Reaper Launcher move-fire-
>> move/assault?
>> A. Yes
>>
>> +++
>>
>> Would anyone care to comment on that interpretation?
>
> Rulebook page 54 states that if rapid fire or heavy weapons may be fired
> if the unit moves and the jetbike can still charge. It doesn't say only if
> the weapon is mounted on the bike rather than carried, the mounting only
> applies to rapid fire weapons firing at full range.
>
>> As to the Gets Hot ruling on pg3 -
>>
>> Per RB p30, a single shot has a 1/6 chance of Wounding the Firer.
>> But, 2 or 3 shots have a 2/6 or 3/6 chance of Wounding.
>> The only time Wounds is pluralised is in the abstract -
>> When they're referring to Wounds in general.
>
> I guess you haven't worked out probabilities for a long time.
>
> When rolling 2 dice, the chance of either being a 1 or a 2 is 20/36. 2/3 =
> 24/36 which is not the same.
>
> For a 1, 2 or 3 it's not 3/6 either. My probability math isn't up to
> sorting that one out this morning.

Ah, a bit of caffiene helps.

The chance of rolling a 1, 2 or 3 on 3 dice is determined by working out
what the chance is of not rolling a 4, 5 or 6. 3/6 * 3/6 * 3/6 = 27/216
chance of not rolling, which makes it 189/216 or 87.5% chance of taking a
wound when rolling 3 dice.

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Hey,

On Feb 29, 8:01 am, Richard Busby <richbu... RemoveThis @hatespam.bellsouth.net>
wrote:
> JohnPaulPont... RemoveThis @gmail.com wrote:
> > a single shot has a 1/6 chance of Wounding the Firer.

Sorry for having stated that poorly -
I should have said, "chance of an Overheat result".

> > But, 2 or 3 shots

... (each) ...

> > have a 2/6 or 3/6 chance of Wounding.

Again, I should have said 'Overheating'.
Overheat causes a Save to be rolled.
Only if the Save is failed, is a Wound taken.

> I've obviously picked up
> bias to the local interpretations of things.

As haven't we all.


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On Feb 29, 7:56 am, Richard Busby <richbu... RemoveThis @hatespam.bellsouth.net>
wrote:
> Blackheart wrote:
> > "Rules As Written" not "Rules As Intended" because obviously, if they
> > had intended it to be like that they would have WRITTEN it to be like
> > that.
>
> Or they thought is was clear enough and didn't see the potential for
> conflicting interpretations. RAW leads to all kinds of endearing
> situations like shooting a model between a Wraithlord's legs, Rapid
> Firing weapons targeting to 12" but killing to 24", and Terminators that
> don't have Terminator Armor because it's not in their listed wargear.
>
> Clearly this situation needs an FAQ.

Clearly the powers that be, on high, in Nottingham think it doesn't..
since they.. you know.. don't make FAQ's.
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"Richard Busby" <richbusby.RemoveThis@hatespam.bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> Or they thought is was clear enough and didn't see the potential for
> conflicting interpretations. RAW leads to all kinds of endearing
> situations like shooting a model between a Wraithlord's legs, Rapid
> Firing weapons targeting to 12" but killing to 24", and Terminators that
> don't have Terminator Armor because it's not in their listed wargear.

Sorry, it's Rules As Written (RAW) from now on. This is the Word Of Jervis.
There should be no more FAQs or Errata. This is the new world order.

It's just a shame they didn't think this through - "If it's RAW, then we
have to make bloody sure the rules we print are correct, clear and concise."
I think it's obvious to everyone that this is not quite the case.

> Clearly this situation needs an FAQ.

Well, official policy is no. The rules are clear and we use RAW.

Obviously the guys who actually run the GTs at Warhammer World have thought
we need to produce a FAQ, but they can't call it such a thing, because FAQs
are verboten. Hence the "house rules" document.

Cheers, Martyn
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