[GW] [40k] Warhammer World House Rules

On Feb 27, 3:39 am, JohnPaulPont... RemoveThis @gmail.com wrote:
> Hey,
>
> "Warhammer World" is GW's Nottingham 'visitor centre'.
> For obvious reasons, they play a lot of 40k at Warhammer World.
> Their "House Rules" are meant to pre-empt rules argument, speeding
> play:
>
> http://warhammerworld.typepad.com/warhammer_world_news/files/40k_gt_f...
>
> A quick read indicates it was done by the crack GW FAQ Team -
>
> With predictable results . . .
>
> For those interested, here's the News page:
>
> http://warhammerworld.typepad.com/warhammer_world_news/
>
>    Playa

furthermore... it's funny considering that I was just in one of the
local GW stores yesterday and the staff were insisting that Ork Shoota
Nobs getting PK's were actually the spirit of the rule.

I'm so glad I'm taking a break from foolhammer to play Magic...
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Hey,

On Feb 27, 5:46 am, Blackheart <blackheart666_2....RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
> it's funny

In fact, the doc states that it's Warhammer World House Rules.
But, players 8mos without a real FAQ might overlook that.
Especially younger players of, for instance, Eldar lists.

BTW, is everybody clear on the Lash rule, now?


Playa
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Blackheart wrote:

> furthermore... it's funny considering that I was just in one of the
> local GW stores yesterday and the staff were insisting that Ork Shoota
> Nobs getting PK's were actually the spirit of the rule.

Well in light of the fact that the Codex author took a Nob with a PK for
his Shoota Mob in the White Dwarf Ork issue, it's a pretty safe bet that
it IS what the author intended.
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Blackheart wrote on Wed, 27 Feb 2008 02:38:19 -0800 (PST):

> On Feb 27, 3:39 am, JohnPaulPont... DeleteThis @gmail.com wrote:
>> Hey,

>> "Warhammer World" is GW's Nottingham 'visitor centre'.
>> For obvious reasons, they play a lot of 40k at Warhammer World.
>> Their "House Rules" are meant to pre-empt rules argument, speeding
>> play:

>> http://warhammerworld.typepad.com/warhammer_world_news/files/40k_gt_f.
>> ..

>> A quick read indicates it was done by the crack GW FAQ Team -

>> With predictable results . . .

>> For those interested, here's the News page:

>> http://warhammerworld.typepad.com/warhammer_world_news/

>> Playa

> that doc says it's a GT FAQ and doesn't apply outside of GT.

Indeed, the rules are nothing to do with playing at Warhammer World in
itself, they are specifically for the UK GT (the finals are next month) and
are on the WW site because the UK GT is held at WW.

Unfortunately though he's right, some of the answers look like the author
didn't even read the 40k rulebook, let alone check the codex.

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Spack wrote:

> Unfortunately though he's right, some of the answers look like the author
> didn't even read the 40k rulebook, let alone check the codex.

That's the damned truth. Gets Hot rule, for example. Does *ANYONE* play
that rule so no matter how many "Gets Hot" results you roll you only
take one save?
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"Richard Busby" <richbusby DeleteThis @hatespam.bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> Spack wrote:
>
>> Unfortunately though he's right, some of the answers look like the author
>> didn't even read the 40k rulebook, let alone check the codex.
>
> That's the damned truth. Gets Hot rule, for example. Does *ANYONE* play
> that rule so no matter how many "Gets Hot" results you roll you only take
> one save?

Yep. That's how I've always played, and I've stood by that interpretation
from day 1. It never states that you take more than wound, only that there's
a higher chance of being wounded - a 1 or 2 on two dice is a higher chance
than a 1 on a single die.

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Spack wrote:
> "Richard Busby" <richbusby.TakeThisOut@hatespam.bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:9xfxj.80915$vt2.61463@bignews8.bellsouth.net...
>> Spack wrote:
>>
>>> Unfortunately though he's right, some of the answers look like the author
>>> didn't even read the 40k rulebook, let alone check the codex.
>> That's the damned truth. Gets Hot rule, for example. Does *ANYONE* play
>> that rule so no matter how many "Gets Hot" results you roll you only take
>> one save?
>
> Yep. That's how I've always played, and I've stood by that interpretation
> from day 1. It never states that you take more than wound, only that there's
> a higher chance of being wounded - a 1 or 2 on two dice is a higher chance
> than a 1 on a single die.

The wording is awfully tricky. From BBB, page 30, paragraph 10:

"The chance of suffering *WOUNDS* is equal to the number of shots being
fired, so firing two shots means that the weapon Gets Hot on rolls of 1
or 2..." (emphasis mine).

So you maintain the CHANCE of getting wounded goes up, but not the
NUMBER of wounds. Then why does it say "the chance of suffering WOUNDS"
(plural) goes up? If you are correct shouldn't it say "the chance of
suffering A WOUND"?
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<JohnPaulPontiff.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> Hey,
>
> On Feb 27, 5:46 am, Blackheart <blackheart666_2....DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> it's funny
>
> In fact, the doc states that it's Warhammer World House Rules.

Did you miss the entire line stating "Warhammer 40,000 Grand Tournament"
just above where it says "House Rules Document"?

Warhammer World hosts the event - of course it's going to have the WW logo
on it.

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On Feb 27, 10:38 am, Richard Busby <richbu....TakeThisOut@hatespam.bellsouth.net>
wrote:
> Blackheart wrote:
> > furthermore... it's funny considering that I was just in one of the
> > local GW stores yesterday and the staff were insisting that Ork Shoota
> > Nobs getting PK's were actually the spirit of the rule.
>
> Well in light of the fact that the Codex author took a Nob with a PK for
> his Shoota Mob in the White Dwarf Ork issue, it's a pretty safe bet that
> it IS what the author intended.

"Rules As Written" not "Rules As Intended" because obviously, if they
had intended it to be like that they would have WRITTEN it to be like
that.
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Richard wrote on Wed, 27 Feb 2008 16:16:46 -0500:

> Spack wrote:
>> "Richard Busby" <richbusby.DeleteThis@hatespam.bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>> news:9xfxj.80915$vt2.61463@bignews8.bellsouth.net...
>>> Spack wrote:

>>>> Unfortunately though he's right, some of the answers look like the
>>>> author didn't even read the 40k rulebook, let alone check the
>>>> codex.
>>> That's the damned truth. Gets Hot rule, for example. Does *ANYONE*
>>> play that rule so no matter how many "Gets Hot" results you roll
>>> you only take one save?

>> Yep. That's how I've always played, and I've stood by that
>> interpretation from day 1. It never states that you take more than
>> wound, only that there's a higher chance of being wounded - a 1 or 2
>> on two dice is a higher chance than a 1 on a single die.

> The wording is awfully tricky. From BBB, page 30, paragraph 10:

> "The chance of suffering *WOUNDS* is equal to the number of shots being
> fired, so firing two shots means that the weapon Gets Hot on rolls of 1
> or 2..." (emphasis mine).

> So you maintain the CHANCE of getting wounded goes up, but not the NUMBER
> of wounds. Then why does it say "the chance of suffering WOUNDS"
> (plural) goes up? If you are correct shouldn't it say "the chance of
> suffering A WOUND"?

Why doesn't it say "you suffer one wound for each roll of a 1 or 2"? Check
the rest of the rulebook - pluralisation is used interchangeably all over
the place. It also says the CHANCE goes up, not the number of wounds
inflicted. It's a grey area, and luckily it rarely comes up in a game - it's
never happened to me in a game, it has happened to an opponent and we played
it that he took a single wound when he rolled double 1 for his plasma as the
rules are not clear.

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"Richard Busby" <richbusby.RemoveThis@hatespam.bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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>
> Well in light of the fact that the Codex author took a Nob with a PK for
> his Shoota Mob in the White Dwarf Ork issue, it's a pretty safe bet that
> it IS what the author intended.

Geez, WD batreps are not the place to look for rule clarification. Illegal
armies litter the landscape, "forgotten" about rules are scattered as far as
the eye can see.

You'd think that the people who actually make a living out of playing these
game would at least make an effort to get things right.

And remember, the latest thinking is RAW ! (not "actually, we meant this
.....").

Cheers, Martyn
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Hey,

On Feb 27, 2:39 pm, "Spack" <n....DeleteThis@worldofspack.co.uk> wrote:
> Did you miss the entire line stating "Warhammer 40,000 Grand Tournament"

Well, as Warhammer World is the 'House", it's natural to presume ...
wait.
Are you saying that, in the UK, the official FAQ is just *called*
House Rules?
[shrug] Whatever their origin, I note, on p10 of these (Studio?) House
Rules:

+++

Q. Can an Autarch on a Jetbike carrying a Reaper Launcher move-fire-
move/assault?
A. Yes

+++

Would anyone care to comment on that interpretation?

As to the Gets Hot ruling on pg3 -

Per RB p30, a single shot has a 1/6 chance of Wounding the Firer.
But, 2 or 3 shots have a 2/6 or 3/6 chance of Wounding.
The only time Wounds is pluralised is in the abstract -
When they're referring to Wounds in general.

So, imo - one roll, one Wound.


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On Feb 29, 3:20 am, "Spack" <n... RemoveThis @worldofspack.co.uk> wrote:
> "Spack" <n... RemoveThis @worldofspack.co.uk> wrote in message
>
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>
>
>
>
>
> > <JohnPaulPont... RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> >> Hey,
>
> >> On Feb 27, 2:39 pm, "Spack" <n... RemoveThis @worldofspack.co.uk> wrote:
> >>> Did you miss the entire line stating "Warhammer 40,000 Grand Tournament"
>
> >> Well, as Warhammer World is the 'House", it's natural to presume ...
> >> wait.
> >> Are you saying that, in the UK, the official FAQ is just *called*
> >> House Rules?
>
> > For the Grand Tournament, yes. It includes things that are obviously
> > wrong, which maybe just to help streamline the games. This "FAQ" doesn't
> > apply outside of the UK GT.
>
> >> [shrug] Whatever their origin, I note, on p10 of these (Studio?) House
> >> Rules:
>
> >> +++
>
> >> Q. Can an Autarch on a Jetbike carrying a Reaper Launcher move-fire-
> >> move/assault?
> >> A. Yes
>
> >> +++
>
> >> Would anyone care to comment on that interpretation?
>
> > Rulebook page 54 states that if rapid fire or heavy weapons may be fired
> > if the unit moves and the jetbike can still charge. It doesn't say only if
> > the weapon is mounted on the bike rather than carried, the mounting only
> > applies to rapid fire weapons firing at full range.
>
> >> As to the Gets Hot ruling on pg3 -
>
> >> Per RB p30, a single shot has a 1/6 chance of Wounding the Firer.
> >> But, 2 or 3 shots have a 2/6 or 3/6 chance of Wounding.
> >> The only time Wounds is pluralised is in the abstract -
> >> When they're referring to Wounds in general.
>
> > I guess you haven't worked out probabilities for a long time.
>
> > When rolling 2 dice, the chance of either being a 1 or a 2 is 20/36. 2/3 =
> > 24/36 which is not the same.
>
> > For a 1, 2 or 3 it's not 3/6 either. My probability math isn't up to
> > sorting that one out this morning.
>
> Ah, a bit of caffiene helps.
>
> The chance of rolling a 1, 2 or 3 on 3 dice is determined by working out
> what the chance is of not rolling a 4, 5 or 6. 3/6 * 3/6 * 3/6 = 27/216
> chance of not rolling,

and since both numbers are divisible by 3, you can simplify it to
9/72... oops... still divisible by 3.. therefore..... 3/24... 1/8
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