GLIDER

Pete B <xxxh.RemoveThis@_xsomeething.com> writes:
>Blizzard does NOT want people to do that, and has added code to the game
>which tries to scan for this - those who make the bots keep trying to
>avoid being detected - so instead of working on the expansion they have
>people trying to defeat the cheaters (and gold sellers etc)

It's my opinion that the attempts to hide glider have never actually
worked - they just make it look like that so they can entrap lots of
cheaters at once, after collecting subscription money from them as a
disincentive. This "mercury" character is just some guy - he's not figuring
out how to hide his code in 48 hours after a ban. It's just that they're
turning off the detection code (or not acting on it) between ban waves.

Blizzard has no good reason to terminate trial accounts being glided. On
the other hand, if they wait until you're in the game for cash and THEN do
it, you get screwed for cheating and they get financial compensation for
it. *
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* PV something like badgers--something like lizards--and something
like corkscrews.

"Kit Walker" <KitWalker.RemoveThis@skullcave.com> writes:
>How would Blizzard's remote software tell whether i was pressing the keys or
>my Glider is doing it (mind u i dont do it), isn't blizz's software making a
>huge asumption? what does it do? engage in pst's with suspected bots? and if
>no answer, Banned?

Outside of banwaves, they do exactly what you say there - if someone
reports a bot, they "play with it".

From my reading of the glider forum, it kind of goes like this - they
teleport the botting character to somewhere far away from their 'patrol
route'. Generally one of three things happen then: 1) A legitimate player
is confused, but they control their character properly and move on. 2) The
glider's protections instantly log off the character. This happening over
and over is as good as 3) The character runs into a piece of scenery and
gets stuck. Supposedly if a botter has been very thorough it's possible for
them to detect the stuck condition and *maybe* get back on track
mechanically, but if the GM picks someplace really obscure or heavily
overgrown, you're gonna be detectably running in place and banging into
things like a blind drunk.

GMs will also whisper suspected botters, but the software apparently
screeches a loud warning when this happens which would give the botter a
chance to run to the keyboard or log off. It would only catch someone who's
botting when not near the computer.

>hmmm, no way, they are guessing, just using s-ware for extrapolation. Maybe
>if a toon is too 'long' in one place? no pst's during play? just sounds too
>easy, maybe they just scan ur HD for Glider?

They can do software detection too. There's really no bulletproof way to
hide it, regardless of what the developer will tell you. Even rootkits are
readily detectable if you know what you're doing. And you can bet that
there's someone at blizzard that has a copy of glider the moment an update
is released, so they know *exactly* how it tries to hide itself. *
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* PV something like badgers--something like lizards--and something
like corkscrews.