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Muz

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 8:24 am
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I don't suppose there's documentation how to get WinAce to use an
autoproxy firewall that requires a username/password, is there?

Muz

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 3:28 pm
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"Muz" <themuzicman.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1155050667.084161.134900@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
>I don't suppose there's documentation how to get WinAce to use an
> autoproxy firewall that requires a username/password, is there?
>
> Muz
>

WinACE does work through an HTTP proxy but I do not have to use
a password. I use WinACE to access the Tryba HTTP Empire proxy
from my work location. It is slow but functional. I have to inform
WinACE to use the company firewall/proxy. I think the proxy
settings in Internet Explorer somehow affect this connection as
well.

Tom

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 3:52 pm
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"Tom Johnson" <thjohnson.TakeThisOut@ti.com> wrote in message...
>
> WinACE does work through an HTTP proxy but I do not have to use
> a password. I use WinACE to access the Tryba HTTP Empire proxy
> from my work location. It is slow but functional. I have to inform

Is your employer aware of you warlording from the workplace?

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Muz

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 5:31 am
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It says that I can't use XMLRPC on 95/98/Me...

Except, I'm running XP...

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 6:03 am
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Muz wrote:
> It says that I can't use XMLRPC on 95/98/Me...
>
> Except, I'm running XP...
>
> Muz

You need to install XML Core Services 4.0.

Here is the Microsoft link.

http://msdn.microsoft.com/XML/XMLDownloads/default.aspx

The proxy was developed with version 4.0 so I would use 4.0 service
pack 2.
There is a slim possibly that it will work with 6.0.

Ron K.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 6:42 am
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rkoenderink.TakeThisOut@yahoo.ca wrote:
> Muz wrote:
> > It says that I can't use XMLRPC on 95/98/Me...
> >
> > Except, I'm running XP...
> >
> > Muz
>
> You need to install XML Core Services 4.0.
>
> Here is the Microsoft link.
>
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/XML/XMLDownloads/default.aspx
>
> The proxy was developed with version 4.0 so I would use 4.0 service
> pack 2.
> There is a slim possibly that it will work with 6.0.
>
> Ron K.

I have WinAce 2.5.30, and the 4.0SP 2 Core services, and still getting
the 95/98/Me objection.

Muz
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 2:13 pm
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> I have WinAce 2.5.30, and the 4.0SP 2 Core services, and still getting
> the 95/98/Me objection.
>
> Muz

I checked and you should have the following dll on your system.
c:\windows\system32\msxml4.dll.
Make sure you have reboot your machine since installing MSXML services.
The properties should show MSXML 4.0 SP 2.

Based on the error, it appears to be related to not finding the dll.
I believe you will get a different error message if the server, user
name or password is wrong.

Just to make sure you are doing the right things.
You are enabling the http checkbox on the Login form.
You have click the http setting box and setting the following.

You should leave the XML RPC set to the default.
Server: http://emproxy.tryba.nl
Parameters: empire.servlets/servlet/XmlRpc
These parameters will vary with XmlRpc proxy servers.

Proxy Settings
Check off the Use Proxy Settings
Server: YOUR_PROXY_SERVER
User: YOUR_USERNAME
Password: YOUR_PASSWORD

If you are still having problems after you reboot let me know I can
make a special version with a some additional debugging.

As I do not have this environment, it is hard feature to test.

Just to clarify, the conversion to HTTP is accomplished using http
protocol and XmlRpc protocol. This allows access through a firewall
that only has http port open. On some sites, there is also a http
proxy server which all http must be routed through, this allows caching
of information in http proxy server and improved performance.

Ron K.
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 9:01 am
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rkoenderink.TakeThisOut@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > I have WinAce 2.5.30, and the 4.0SP 2 Core services, and still getting
> > the 95/98/Me objection.
> >
> > Muz
>
> I checked and you should have the following dll on your system.
> c:\windows\system32\msxml4.dll.
> Make sure you have reboot your machine since installing MSXML services.
> The properties should show MSXML 4.0 SP 2.
>
> Based on the error, it appears to be related to not finding the dll.
> I believe you will get a different error message if the server, user
> name or password is wrong.
>
> Just to make sure you are doing the right things.
> You are enabling the http checkbox on the Login form.
> You have click the http setting box and setting the following.
>
> You should leave the XML RPC set to the default.
> Server: http://emproxy.tryba.nl
> Parameters: empire.servlets/servlet/XmlRpc
> These parameters will vary with XmlRpc proxy servers.
>
> Proxy Settings
> Check off the Use Proxy Settings
> Server: YOUR_PROXY_SERVER
> User: YOUR_USERNAME
> Password: YOUR_PASSWORD
>
> If you are still having problems after you reboot let me know I can
> make a special version with a some additional debugging.
>
> As I do not have this environment, it is hard feature to test.
>
> Just to clarify, the conversion to HTTP is accomplished using http
> protocol and XmlRpc protocol. This allows access through a firewall
> that only has http port open. On some sites, there is also a http
> proxy server which all http must be routed through, this allows caching
> of information in http proxy server and improved performance.
>
> Ron K.

I think I found the problem..

The company provides me with an "autoproxy" address to get the proxy
info, rather than the address of the proxy server itself... I don't
think I can get the actual proxy server address itself..

Oh well.

Muz
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 9:47 am
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Muz wrote:
> rkoenderink RemoveThis @yahoo.ca wrote:
> > > I have WinAce 2.5.30, and the 4.0SP 2 Core services, and still getting
> > > the 95/98/Me objection.
> > >
> > > Muz
> >
> > I checked and you should have the following dll on your system.
> > c:\windows\system32\msxml4.dll.
> > Make sure you have reboot your machine since installing MSXML services.
> > The properties should show MSXML 4.0 SP 2.
> >
> > Based on the error, it appears to be related to not finding the dll.
> > I believe you will get a different error message if the server, user
> > name or password is wrong.
> >
> > Just to make sure you are doing the right things.
> > You are enabling the http checkbox on the Login form.
> > You have click the http setting box and setting the following.
> >
> > You should leave the XML RPC set to the default.
> > Server: http://emproxy.tryba.nl
> > Parameters: empire.servlets/servlet/XmlRpc
> > These parameters will vary with XmlRpc proxy servers.
> >
> > Proxy Settings
> > Check off the Use Proxy Settings
> > Server: YOUR_PROXY_SERVER
> > User: YOUR_USERNAME
> > Password: YOUR_PASSWORD
> >
> > If you are still having problems after you reboot let me know I can
> > make a special version with a some additional debugging.
> >
> > As I do not have this environment, it is hard feature to test.
> >
> > Just to clarify, the conversion to HTTP is accomplished using http
> > protocol and XmlRpc protocol. This allows access through a firewall
> > that only has http port open. On some sites, there is also a http
> > proxy server which all http must be routed through, this allows caching
> > of information in http proxy server and improved performance.
> >
> > Ron K.
>
> I think I found the problem..
>
> The company provides me with an "autoproxy" address to get the proxy
> info, rather than the address of the proxy server itself... I don't
> think I can get the actual proxy server address itself..
>
> Oh well.
>
> Muz

Are you accounting for the port number that could follow the proxy
address?

Muz
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Dwarf Electrician

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 7:55 am
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rkoenderink.DeleteThis@yahoo.ca wrote:
>>I have WinAce 2.5.30, and the 4.0SP 2 Core services, and still getting
>>the 95/98/Me objection.
>>
>>Muz
>
>

snipped a lot of good stuff

> Just to clarify, the conversion to HTTP is accomplished using http
> protocol and XmlRpc protocol. This allows access through a firewall
> that only has http port open. On some sites, there is also a http
> proxy server which all http must be routed through, this allows caching
> of information in http proxy server and improved performance.

....and real time and logged activity monitoring

To follow on this comment combined with Mr. Ed's tongue in cheek, the
Real World is closer to Mr. Ed's....

Depending on the company and their regulatory environment that they are
in, unless you are part of the IT department and know exactly what is
going on, your activities may be monitored. Depending on how closely
the logs are examined, you may be putting your employment at risk.

Did you sign a company policy manual which included an "appropriate use"
clause or paragraph, or page? Do you like your job? or more
imporatntly, do you need your job? If so, make sure that you are not
being watched. Look up Bluecoat or St. Bernard's Software to see a
couple of the things that are happening now. They are not too expensive
for even a small company to install and use.

Here's another story. At a company that I did some consulting in the
late 90's, the IT Director used to do "drive by shootings". He would
walk his rank and file of cubilcles, and if he saw a game up on a
screen, he would quietly ask the employee if they were having fun or "if
they were winning". The response didn't matter, they were fired on the
spot. It took about a month before even the "smartest" got the message.

I like Empire as much as the next guy, maybe even more, but just make
sure you are not screwing up something that you need or want to keep
(like your job, [marriage is a personal preference]).

Like the old ads on TV, "this is your job....this is your job on Empire"

>
> Ron K.
>

DE
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 9:00 am
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> Are you accounting for the port number that could follow the proxy
> address?
>

The server name is passed through unmodified to the setProxy member.
The documentation stated that it accepts a list of the servers.
I believe you can use the following
autoproxy
autoproxy:80 -- to specify the port 80
I believe it you can also do
http://autoproxy:80

I do not know what the delimiter is for a list but it will probably be
comma or semi-colon.

If you can email me directly (rkoenderink @ yahoo.ca) your IE settings,
I can see if I have any other suggestions. You can change the actual
values to protect any confidential company information.

Ron K.
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