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RU42

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 9:48 am
Post subject: Facets - jewels - your thoughts
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I have a few facet wonderings/questions

I have a chain lightning sorc, would a lightning facet be good in the
helm.armor.weapon? She is a lot of fun but the lightning could use a
boost, the 5-3000 damage is quite a swing. When it hits for 3000 it
sure is nice, but the low zaps make things slow sometimes.

How about a fire facet in the Chantress gear. Does this extra boost
benefit other players and their mercs or would the facet only benefit
her.

How about a facet in a merc. One of the ones that has a level
40somthing something upon death. If that is on a merc does the effect
take place still?

Thanks for your thoughts.

RU

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Patrick Vervoorn

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 1:55 pm
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In article <784kd2da4faf86qgann6t8grnjihtnlpsm.DeleteThis@4ax.com>,
RU42 <nospam.DeleteThis@nospam.com> wrote:

>I have a few facet wonderings/questions

Go right ahead, I'll see what I can do. Wink

>I have a chain lightning sorc, would a lightning facet be good in the
>helm.armor.weapon? She is a lot of fun but the lightning could use a
>boost, the 5-3000 damage is quite a swing. When it hits for 3000 it
>sure is nice, but the low zaps make things slow sometimes.

Yep, they sure help. Of course, they work even better if you have
something which is a able to break lightning immunities: cheap option is a
wand with Lower Resist charges, the expensive option is an Infinity
polearm on the merc. Especially since monsters with a broken immunity
still have very high resists to the broken immunity, facets and other
-resist gear work very nicely to further lower those monster's resists and
increase the damage they take...

>How about a fire facet in the Chantress gear. Does this extra boost
>benefit other players and their mercs or would the facet only benefit
>her.

All facets only benefit the character (merc of player) wearing it. Also,
the -res part of a facet is usually more important that the +dmg part,
since the +dmg part is actually pretty small compared to the boosts you
get from fire/lightning mastery. Cold Mastery is the odd-one out, there
both are about equally useful, unless you have Cold Master at a very very
high level.

>How about a facet in a merc. One of the ones that has a level
>40somthing something upon death. If that is on a merc does the effect
>take place still?

I've got a Cold Facet/Die in the hat of my UT Smiters merc, and while the
effect from the Facet certainly also triggers when the merc dies, the
Blizzard from that doesn't make a dent in any of the monsters there. Said
merc doesn't die that easily in the regular game, so I can't really
comment on the performance of the Blizzard from the facet there.

Short answer: Yup, works. Effectiveness to be determined, so go right
ahead. Wink

Regards,

Patrick.

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RU42

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 3:57 pm
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Thank you for the great info. One clarification question:

If the merc had the lightning facet in his helm, would my lightning
sorc benefit from the lighting -5% resistance. How about the rest of
the party.

RU

On Wed, 09 Aug 2006 18:55:32 +0200, Patrick Vervoorn
<patrick.vervoorn.TakeThisOut@NOSPAM.perihelion.demon.nl> wrote:

>In article <784kd2da4faf86qgann6t8grnjihtnlpsm.TakeThisOut@4ax.com>,
>RU42 <nospam.TakeThisOut@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>>I have a few facet wonderings/questions
>
>Go right ahead, I'll see what I can do. Wink
>
>>I have a chain lightning sorc, would a lightning facet be good in the
>>helm.armor.weapon? She is a lot of fun but the lightning could use a
>>boost, the 5-3000 damage is quite a swing. When it hits for 3000 it
>>sure is nice, but the low zaps make things slow sometimes.
>
>Yep, they sure help. Of course, they work even better if you have
>something which is a able to break lightning immunities: cheap option is a
>wand with Lower Resist charges, the expensive option is an Infinity
>polearm on the merc. Especially since monsters with a broken immunity
>still have very high resists to the broken immunity, facets and other
>-resist gear work very nicely to further lower those monster's resists and
>increase the damage they take...
>
>>How about a fire facet in the Chantress gear. Does this extra boost
>>benefit other players and their mercs or would the facet only benefit
>>her.
>
>All facets only benefit the character (merc of player) wearing it. Also,
>the -res part of a facet is usually more important that the +dmg part,
>since the +dmg part is actually pretty small compared to the boosts you
>get from fire/lightning mastery. Cold Mastery is the odd-one out, there
>both are about equally useful, unless you have Cold Master at a very very
>high level.
>
>>How about a facet in a merc. One of the ones that has a level
>>40somthing something upon death. If that is on a merc does the effect
>>take place still?
>
>I've got a Cold Facet/Die in the hat of my UT Smiters merc, and while the
>effect from the Facet certainly also triggers when the merc dies, the
>Blizzard from that doesn't make a dent in any of the monsters there. Said
>merc doesn't die that easily in the regular game, so I can't really
>comment on the performance of the Blizzard from the facet there.
>
>Short answer: Yup, works. Effectiveness to be determined, so go right
>ahead. Wink
>
>Regards,
>
>Patrick.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 10:55 pm
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In article <qgpkd2hbspicnr1fodarf8tibi6eoqmptr RemoveThis @4ax.com>,
RU42 <nospam RemoveThis @nospam.com> wrote:
>
>Thank you for the great info. One clarification question:
>
>If the merc had the lightning facet in his helm, would my lightning
>sorc benefit from the lighting -5% resistance. How about the rest of
>the party.

I answered that already:

>>>How about a fire facet in the Chantress gear. Does this extra boost
>>>benefit other players and their mercs or would the facet only benefit
>>>her.
>>
>>All facets only benefit the character (merc of player) wearing it. Also,
>>the -res part of a facet is usually more important that the +dmg part,
>>since the +dmg part is actually pretty small compared to the boosts you
>>get from fire/lightning mastery. Cold Mastery is the odd-one out, there
>>both are about equally useful, unless you have Cold Master at a very very
>>high level.

So, again, no, facets will only work for the character (player or merc)
wearing the item it's put in. Anyone else, including the party, will NOT
benefit from it at all.

Regards,

Patrick.
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RU42

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 10:55 pm
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>>>
>>>All facets only benefit the character (merc of player) wearing it.
>
>So, again, no, facets will only work for the character (player or merc)
>wearing the item it's put in. Anyone else, including the party, will NOT
>benefit from it at all.
>
>Regards,
>
>Patrick.

Thanks for the clarification, I left your first sentence there - I
wasn't sure if the (merc of player) was inclusive or exclusive. it
could be read that the character wearing also benefits the merc - I
just wanted to be sure and you have made it clear. Thank you very
much!

RU
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 4:55 am
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In article <138ld29p651tgtqbrh0qpporfnqhhoim0a RemoveThis @4ax.com>,
RU42 <nospam RemoveThis @nospam.com> wrote:
>
>>>>All facets only benefit the character (merc of player) wearing it.
>>
>>So, again, no, facets will only work for the character (player or merc)
>>wearing the item it's put in. Anyone else, including the party, will NOT
>>benefit from it at all.
>
>Thanks for the clarification, I left your first sentence there - I
>wasn't sure if the (merc of player) was inclusive or exclusive. it
>could be read that the character wearing also benefits the merc - I
>just wanted to be sure and you have made it clear. Thank you very
>much!

Ah, I see the confusion now. That was actually a typo of mine: the English
word 'or' translates to the Dutch word 'of'. But 'of' has it's own meaning
in English. Sorry for the confusion.

I suppose my original posting would've been 100% clear had I typed 'or'
instead of 'of'. Wink

Regards,

Patrick.
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