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Richard Clayton

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 9:43 pm
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You know what's amusing? Watching /Excessively Righteous Blossom's/
ineptitude. Every time I read of another of his missteps, I cheer.
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 9:44 pm
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Richard Clayton wrote:
> You know what's amusing? Watching /Excessively Righteous Blossom's/
> ineptitude. Every time I read of another of his missteps, I cheer.
> --
Yeah...except for when he *somehow* (given how low Essence he
apparently is) manages to defeat an elder Lunar like Ten Stripes in a
duel.

Lotta Lunar fans are still pretty upset about that...

Did you reach the part where Lissome Avid Engineer put the smack-down
on that guy she was partnered with??^^

Dex

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 3:26 am
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Hand-of-Omega wrote:
> Richard Clayton wrote:
>
>>You know what's amusing? Watching /Excessively Righteous Blossom's/
>>ineptitude. Every time I read of another of his missteps, I cheer.
>
> Yeah...except for when he *somehow* (given how low Essence he
> apparently is) manages to defeat an elder Lunar like Ten Stripes in a
> duel.

Well, having Artifacts One Zillion probably helped. Beam klaves are
absolutely sick. (In the GOOD way.)

> Lotta Lunar fans are still pretty upset about that...

Feh. Lunars are underpowered, as-written; they've had four years to
learn to deal.

> Did you reach the part where Lissome Avid Engineer put the smack-down
> on that guy she was partnered with??^^

Not yet...
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 9:47 am
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Richard Clayton wrote:
> Hand-of-Omega wrote:
> > Richard Clayton wrote:
> >
> >>You know what's amusing? Watching /Excessively Righteous Blossom's/
> >>ineptitude. Every time I read of another of his missteps, I cheer.
> >
> > Yeah...except for when he *somehow* (given how low Essence he
> > apparently is) manages to defeat an elder Lunar like Ten Stripes in a
> > duel.
>
> Well, having Artifacts One Zillion probably helped. Beam klaves are
> absolutely sick. (In the GOOD way.)
>
Just let a Twilight or Mountain Person get ahold of one...<shiver>

> > Lotta Lunar fans are still pretty upset about that...
>
> Feh. Lunars are underpowered, as-written; they've had four years to
> learn to deal.
>
That's one of the things many hope Exalted 2nd will revise. Many seem
to feel that Deadly Beastman Transformation was so overpowering that
the designers felt the need to cripple Lunars in nearly every other
category to compensate. If so, then perhaps if that Charm is toned
down, then they can be more effective...(which would be a shame, as I
love DBT!) I believe Neph outright stated that Lunar Attribute-based
charms *should* be organized like Alchemical charms...

> > Did you reach the part where Lissome Avid Engineer put the smack-down
> > on that guy she was partnered with??^^
>
> Not yet...

SLIGHT SPOILERS...

Well, I reread it, and my memory recall charm needs reinstalling. She
doesn't "put the smack-down" on him, it's more of an (embarrased) draw,
with LOTS of collateral damage. It's a few pages after the Ten Stripes
incident...

Dex,
who finds the 3 Adventures in Alchemicals even more amusing if imagined
as MelUran's "Chibi-Theater"...^__^
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 5:17 am
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Hand-of-Omega wrote:
> Richard Clayton wrote:
>
>>Hand-of-Omega wrote:
>>
>>>Richard Clayton wrote:
>>>
>>>>You know what's amusing? Watching /Excessively Righteous Blossom's/
>>>>ineptitude. Every time I read of another of his missteps, I cheer.
>>>
>>>Yeah...except for when he *somehow* (given how low Essence he
>>>apparently is) manages to defeat an elder Lunar like Ten Stripes in a
>>>duel.
>>
>> Well, having Artifacts One Zillion probably helped. Beam klaves are
>>absolutely sick. (In the GOOD way.)
>
> Just let a Twilight or Mountain Person get ahold of one...<shiver>

Nah. Artifact 4 laser swords are very much the Alchemical shtick.
Mountain Folk shtick is fifty thousand guys with Artifact 3. Solars
shtick is three guys with Artifact 50,000.

>>>Lotta Lunar fans are still pretty upset about that...
>>
>> Feh. Lunars are underpowered, as-written; they've had four years to
>>learn to deal.
>
> That's one of the things many hope Exalted 2nd will revise. Many seem
> to feel that Deadly Beastman Transformation was so overpowering that
> the designers felt the need to cripple Lunars in nearly every other
> category to compensate. If so, then perhaps if that Charm is toned
> down, then they can be more effective...(which would be a shame, as I
> love DBT!) I believe Neph outright stated that Lunar Attribute-based
> charms *should* be organized like Alchemical charms...

I disagree. DBT is *perfectly* balanced, when you consider that Lunars
pay 50% more for Charms than Solars. Therefore their Charms should be
individually better than Solar Charms-- or at least rival them.
Unfortunately, it didn't pan out that way; the Lunar Charm trees are
full of speed bumps, underpowered Charms, and general useless junk. And
at 15 XP each, those speed bumps HURT. (And don't even get me started on
cross-Caste Charm trees...)
A quick, easy fix for Lunars is to reduce the XP cost of all Charms,
except for DBT. Then buying a Charm just so you can grow wings or do
bare-handed lethal doesn't hurt quite so much. But I would like to see
the opposite in Exalted 2e: Lunar Charms remain expensive, but the trees
get a good pruning, and Lunar Charms are generally beefed up to be
*worth* 12-15 XP each. And oh yeah, DBT includes bare-handed lethal as a
base feature, and no Charm has DBT as a prerequisite except for a few
very high-end combat Charms. (I would like non-DBT Lunars with perfect
skinchanging to be a viable option. They're losing enough by not taking
DBT, they shouldn't lose access to cool non-combat Charms too.)
While I'm writing my wish list, I would like more free-form
shapeshifting rules, too. (^_^)

>>>Did you reach the part where Lissome Avid Engineer put the smack-down
>>>on that guy she was partnered with??^^
>>
>> Not yet...
>
> SLIGHT SPOILERS...
>
> Well, I reread it, and my memory recall charm needs reinstalling. She
> doesn't "put the smack-down" on him, it's more of an (embarrased) draw,
> with LOTS of collateral damage. It's a few pages after the Ten Stripes
> incident...

Yup. Ninja robots killing each other over dogma is cool.
By the way, I finished /Alchemicals/. And I am tickled that I figured
out what the Eye was before it was revealed in the book-- or, at least,
one possible interpretation of what it is. (I wonder how many wars have
been fought on RPG.net over which of the three invasion scenarios is
"canon"...)
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 9:14 pm
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Richard Clayton wrote:
> Hand-of-Omega wrote:
> > Richard Clayton wrote:
> >
> >>Hand-of-Omega wrote:
> >>
> >>>Richard Clayton wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>You know what's amusing? Watching /Excessively Righteous Blossom's/
> >>>>ineptitude. Every time I read of another of his missteps, I cheer.
> >>>
> >>>Yeah...except for when he *somehow* (given how low Essence he
> >>>apparently is) manages to defeat an elder Lunar like Ten Stripes in a
> >>>duel.
> >>
> >> Well, having Artifacts One Zillion probably helped. Beam klaves are
> >>absolutely sick. (In the GOOD way.)
> >
> > Just let a Twilight or Mountain Person get ahold of one...<shiver>
>
> Nah. Artifact 4 laser swords are very much the Alchemical shtick.
> Mountain Folk shtick is fifty thousand guys with Artifact 3. Solars
> shtick is three guys with Artifact 50,000.
>
I was thinking more of the Twilight or Mountain Person
reverse-engineering the weapon, then mass producing it. Would that be
Occult or Lore or Craft to figure out alien tech?

(snip Lunars fixes)

> While I'm writing my wish list, I would like more free-form
> shapeshifting rules, too. (^_^)

I want Background Enhancements, Dramatic Editing and Mega-Attributes!^^
>
> >>>Did you reach the part where Lissome Avid Engineer put the smack-down
> >>>on that guy she was partnered with??^^
> >>
> >> Not yet...
> >
> > SLIGHT SPOILERS...
> >
> > Well, I reread it, and my memory recall charm needs reinstalling. She
> > doesn't "put the smack-down" on him, it's more of an (embarrased) draw,
> > with LOTS of collateral damage. It's a few pages after the Ten Stripes
> > incident...
>
> Yup. Ninja robots killing each other over dogma is cool.

Well, I imagined it all as Chibi-SD characters, so I get tickled
thinking of LAE and her opponent after the fight, with much embarrassed
bowing and sweatdrops in front of an angry crowd...^__~

> By the way, I finished /Alchemicals/. And I am tickled that I figured
> out what the Eye was before it was revealed in the book-- or, at least,
> one possible interpretation of what it is. (I wonder how many wars have
> been fought on RPG.net over which of the three invasion scenarios is
> "canon"...)
>
Dunno, haven't been there in awhile. Mostly hang on the WW boards these
days...

Dex,
who forgot what the other possibilities for the Eye were...^^;
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