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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 1:46 pm
Post subject: Ergonomics and portable gaming systems
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Please bear with me. I've been thinking/posting about this a lot
recently, I know. But I wanted to ask a question, kind of an
over-arching question about the various systems and their ergonomic
features, or lack-thereof. I was a GBA gamer for quite some time.
Although I held the SP by tilting my wrists in and kind of wrapping my
hands around the SP, a position I now realize wasn't good. I've since
switched to the DS, having played through most of the GBA line-up.
Something changed recently, though. I had to sell Castlevania, because
the pinching motion (which I've been told by my occupational therapist
is something I want to do less of if I can) of holding the DS and
playing faster action games with the buttons and D-Pad was causing too
much stress. So Castlevania had to go. I'm not sure what (if anything) I
can/will get next. I think stylus games are better, but I have a larger
question.
Since this is "gamerswithjobs.com" I'm wondering for those of you out
there with jobs and who play portable systems, what have you found to be
the most comfortable portable gaming device and what kinds of games
can/do you play? I ask, obviously, because I'm at a point right now
where there are like 5 games I own for the DS and I'm gaming very light.
But part of me wonders sometimes if I might not be able to game more if
I were playing a PSP, for example. Or if I should go back to the GBA+
Afterburner (I don't think the SP would work given what I mentioned
above).
Any opinions, experiences are welcome. I love the games I have. And I
can play them relatively pain-free. But there are times where I wonder
if there isn't a better way to play my portable games and not have to
dance around certain genres (like how I currently can't play any action
games with the D-Pad for the DS).
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 1:47 pm
Post subject: Re: Ergonomics and portable gaming systems [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On 2005-11-27, Preston Crawford <me DeleteThis @prestoncrawford.com> wrote:
> Please bear with me. I've been thinking/posting about this a lot
> recently, I know. But I wanted to ask a question, kind of an
Oops. Wrong group. I haven't been thinking/posting about it here. Just
lurking. If anyone cares to answer, though, I'd love to hear what you
had to say.
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 1:50 pm
Post subject: Re: Ergonomics and portable gaming systems [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On 2005-11-27, Preston Crawford <me.RemoveThis@prestoncrawford.com> wrote:
> On 2005-11-27, Preston Crawford <me.RemoveThis@prestoncrawford.com> wrote:
>> Please bear with me. I've been thinking/posting about this a lot
>> recently, I know. But I wanted to ask a question, kind of an
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> Oops. Wrong group. I haven't been thinking/posting about it here. Just
> lurking. If anyone cares to answer, though, I'd love to hear what you
> had to say.
>
> Preston
Also, ignore the "gamerswithjobs.com" reference. Obviously that's a
forum I posed this in as well. Sorry about the confusion.Seeking help
where I can get it.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 3:37 pm
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On 2005-11-27, Sir Chewbury Gubbins <chewbury.gubbins DeleteThis @nelefa.org> wrote:
> Preston Crawford <me DeleteThis @prestoncrawford.com> wrote:
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>> Since this is "gamerswithjobs.com" I'm wondering for those of you out
>> there with jobs and who play portable systems, what have you found to be
>> the most comfortable portable gaming device and what kinds of games
>> can/do you play?
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> Most comfortable == Gameboy Micro. Without question. By a long way.
Seriously? It's so small, though.
> Second most comfortable == Nintendo DS games which are stylus only (i.e.
> meteos, etc).
This may be what I do. Move towards only those DS games that use the
stylus. Castlevania wrecked me. Which taught me a lesson. That and Tony
Hawk. Neither game was good. I may have to give the Micro a look
eventually. At least so I know I have options.
> Everything else gives me the claw.
Yeah. Yuck.
An original GBA backlit would be perfect. Or a lighter DS. How is the
PSP? Anyone know?
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 3:40 pm
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On 2005-11-27, Mike Jenkins <mike.jenkins.no.spam RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:
> Preston Crawford <me RemoveThis @prestoncrawford.com> wrote:
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>> On 2005-11-27, Preston Crawford <me RemoveThis @prestoncrawford.com> wrote:
>> > Please bear with me. I've been thinking/posting about this a lot
>> > recently, I know. But I wanted to ask a question, kind of an
>>
>> Oops. Wrong group. I haven't been thinking/posting about it here. Just
>> lurking. If anyone cares to answer, though, I'd love to hear what you
>> had to say.
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> I know that any handheld console with L and R triggers hurt my hands if
> I play games that require the triggers for any length of time.
This is a big reason why for me the GBA was such a great system for so
long. I could play games like Pokemon, FFTA, Fire Emblem, Advance Wars,
etc. (since I love RPGs and strategy games) and I could limit how often
I pressed the shoulder buttons. With the DS the problem isn't so much
the shoulder buttons as any buttons and the D-Pad. The main problem
being that if you think about it you're holding up the weight of the DS
with the same fingers that are doing the button pressing. So those
tendons are doing lots of work. My question was always "how much work".
And how does that compare to how small the SP is and thus how poor the
ergonomics on it are. It turns on that the more I play the DS the more I
figure out how bad its ergonomics are. At least with games that require
much more than a minimal amount of button pressing.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 7:55 pm
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On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 Preston Crawford <me.RemoveThis@prestoncrawford.com> wrote:
> Although I held the SP by tilting my wrists in and kind of wrapping my
> hands around the SP, a position I now realize wasn't good. I've since
> switched to the DS, having played through most of the GBA line-up.
>
> Something changed recently, though. I had to sell Castlevania, because
> the pinching motion (which I've been told by my occupational therapist
> is something I want to do less of if I can) of holding the DS and
> playing faster action games with the buttons and D-Pad was causing too
> much stress. So Castlevania had to go. I'm not sure what (if anything) I
what I do on the DS is this:
instead of holding the machine with palms touching against the side of
the DS, turn your hands 70-90 degrees so that the palms are facing
towards your body.
This, I've found, is a more natural position, plus it gives easy access
to the L + R buttons.
Additionally I also find that if you rest the DS on your leg (if you sit
cross-legged for example) can relieve some of the tension from the
weight of the thing.
I still reckon the original GBA (i.e. pre-SP) had the most comfortable
design. The new Micro would make you go blind considering the size of
the screen.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 5:52 pm
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On 2005-11-27, Stimp <ren.TakeThisOut@spumco.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 Preston Crawford <me.TakeThisOut@prestoncrawford.com> wrote:
>> Although I held the SP by tilting my wrists in and kind of wrapping my
>> hands around the SP, a position I now realize wasn't good. I've since
>> switched to the DS, having played through most of the GBA line-up.
>>
>> Something changed recently, though. I had to sell Castlevania, because
>> the pinching motion (which I've been told by my occupational therapist
>> is something I want to do less of if I can) of holding the DS and
>> playing faster action games with the buttons and D-Pad was causing too
>> much stress. So Castlevania had to go. I'm not sure what (if anything) I
>
> what I do on the DS is this:
>
> instead of holding the machine with palms touching against the side of
> the DS, turn your hands 70-90 degrees so that the palms are facing
> towards your body.
>
> This, I've found, is a more natural position, plus it gives easy access
> to the L + R buttons.
>
> Additionally I also find that if you rest the DS on your leg (if you sit
> cross-legged for example) can relieve some of the tension from the
> weight of the thing.
>
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> I still reckon the original GBA (i.e. pre-SP) had the most comfortable
> design. The new Micro would make you go blind considering the size of
> the screen.
>
That's my worry. I keep hearing people say the Micro is more comfortable
(I went back to the GBA in the end), but I keep thinking the screen is
too small. What is the size difference, exactly?
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