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Crash Lander

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 9:55 pm
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Which engines normally get started first in a commercial airliner?
I always thought it was the left engine, but after watching activities at
YMML the other day when my dad was leaving, I noticed it was the right
engine that was started first on at least 2 767's I saw push back.
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 9:55 pm
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Crash Lander wrote:
> Which engines normally get started first in a commercial airliner?
> I always thought it was the left engine, but after watching activities at
> YMML the other day when my dad was leaving, I noticed it was the right
> engine that was started first on at least 2 767's I saw push back.
> Crash Lander
>
> --
> I'm not always right,
> But I'm never wrong!

Don't you have 'eeny meeny' down there??

SnakeEyes

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 10:55 pm
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On our trip this past July, all four planes we were on started the Number 1
or left engine first. 2 A319's, 1 A320 and 1 B752.

Not4wood

"Crash Lander" <here RemoveThis @there.com.za> wrote in message
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> Which engines normally get started first in a commercial airliner?
> I always thought it was the left engine, but after watching activities at
> YMML the other day when my dad was leaving, I noticed it was the right
> engine that was started first on at least 2 767's I saw push back.
> Crash Lander
>
> --
> I'm not always right,
> But I'm never wrong!
>
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 12:55 am
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I note when they come into the terminal the jet props switch off the engine
on the passenger disembarking side as they taxi in er ...sometimes
Butts
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> Crash Lander wrote:
>> Which engines normally get started first in a commercial airliner?
>> I always thought it was the left engine, but after watching activities at
>> YMML the other day when my dad was leaving, I noticed it was the right
>> engine that was started first on at least 2 767's I saw push back.
>> Crash Lander
>>
>> --
>> I'm not always right,
>> But I'm never wrong!
>
> Don't you have 'eeny meeny' down there??
>
> SnakeEyes
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 2:55 am
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I'm old enough to remember a little guy with a red fire extinguisher on a
cart standing under each engine as they started them.

Now where did I put my walker?



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(Msg. 6) Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 2:55 am
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Dallas wrote:
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> I'm old enough to remember a little guy with a red fire extinguisher on a
> cart standing under each engine as they started them.
>
> Now where did I put my walker?
>
> Dallas

hehehe...I remember turning the props on the R-3350's
through 3, or was it 5 blades, before signaling the
FE to engage the starter, on the days I wasn't flying Smile

The days I flew, it was 'dip a rag in AVGAS' and wipe the
engines amd flaps undersides down to remove the oil after
we returned from a mission...

Paul
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 5:37 am
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If you recall the movie clip we were given a few weeks ago, showing the
startup, takeoff and landing of a 767 from the cockpit, you may
remember the captain advising the F.O. which engine he was going to
start first (I believe it was the left one).

This would lead me to believe it is the captain's decision based on
some factor which I don't know. There's probably a technical reason
for his choice, but to my knowledge, it's still 50/50.

Geez, and I didn't want to do any thinking today *sigh*

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 10:55 am
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> Geez, and I didn't want to do any thinking today *sigh*
>
> SnakeEyes

AAWW! Sorry matey! I know it hurts, but we don't ask you to do it that
often! Wink
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 12:23 pm
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Crash Lander wrote:
> Which engines normally get started first in a commercial airliner?
> I always thought it was the left engine, but after watching activities at
> YMML the other day when my dad was leaving, I noticed it was the right
> engine that was started first on at least 2 767's I saw push back.
> Crash Lander
>
IIRC, it depends on the engine that powers the primary generator and
hydraulic pumps. Of course, since all of my experience as a pilot is
NOT in heavy iron, I am going primarily by what I have read and remember.

You might find this interesting:

http://tinyurl.com/j6gew

Regards...

Tom
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 4:55 pm
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I always thought left engines were last to start. On a 747 documentary I
have engine nr. 4 is started first (far right)

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"Crash Lander" <here.DeleteThis@there.com.za> wrote in message
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> Which engines normally get started first in a commercial airliner?
> I always thought it was the left engine, but after watching activities at
> YMML the other day when my dad was leaving, I noticed it was the right
> engine that was started first on at least 2 767's I saw push back.
> Crash Lander
>
> --
> I'm not always right,
> But I'm never wrong!
>
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 10:25 pm
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Ibby wrote:
> I always thought left engines were last to start.

Unless there's a specific design that necessitates a certain engine be
started first (ie, the APU bleed only goes to the #2 engine), I think
the start order is really up to pilot preference or a well played game
of "eeny-meeny".

Of course, there are positional considerations, too. It would be less
noisy and more courteous to ground crew to start the #2 (center) engine
on a DC-10/MD-11/L1011 than either of the wing engines while under pushback.

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(Msg. 12) Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 10:55 pm
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Hmmm, and I was always told in a 747 it was 1.3.2.4.

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>I always thought left engines were last to start. On a 747 documentary I
>have engine nr. 4 is started first (far right)
>
> --
> Ibby (The artist formerly known as Chris)
>
>
> "Crash Lander" <here.RemoveThis@there.com.za> wrote in message
> news:aulQg.32981$rP1.30174@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>> Which engines normally get started first in a commercial airliner?
>> I always thought it was the left engine, but after watching activities at
>> YMML the other day when my dad was leaving, I noticed it was the right
>> engine that was started first on at least 2 767's I saw push back.
>> Crash Lander
>>
>> --
>> I'm not always right,
>> But I'm never wrong!
>>
>
>
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 2:55 am
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Mr SmokingGnu Sir! How about sending me a pic, and a local airport code for
my video to: namsor at aapt dot net dot au !!!
You'll be glad you did!
We're all out of steak knife sets, but it could be your big break! Smile
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"TheSmokingGnu" <anonymityisavirtue.DeleteThis@1111011010011.com> wrote in message
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> Ibby wrote:
>> I always thought left engines were last to start.
>
> Unless there's a specific design that necessitates a certain engine be
> started first (ie, the APU bleed only goes to the #2 engine), I think the
> start order is really up to pilot preference or a well played game of
> "eeny-meeny".
>
> Of course, there are positional considerations, too. It would be less
> noisy and more courteous to ground crew to start the #2 (center) engine on
> a DC-10/MD-11/L1011 than either of the wing engines while under pushback.
>
> TheSmokingGnu
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