Enchanting

Zil wrote:
> Part of the problem is that the only enchats that will make you any
> money are the high-level (skill level 300) enchants,

Somehow I disagree. The only enchants that make you money are those
between 175 and 275. I'm not going to buy a recipe for 250 gold + 150
gold for a rod to be told that I should enchant for free when getting
the materials.

Anyway, you start to make money once you can do +5 enchants and even
without spamming the channel. Go through the city, have a handy button
to inspect a player (the context menu is a pain), look at his/her items
and then offer the player directly _an enchant he could use and afford_
(and that you have the materials for!). A full T1 guy would never buy a
+5 enchant, but a level 50 who just got a blue level 50 item, might.
The level 50 again won't buy the spellpower enchant.. etc. If there is
a guy with one T1 item, you can offer him also fire resistance
enchants. If there is someone with a nearly full T0 set but misses
Stratholme or Scholomance items, offer him shadow resistance etc.
It's important that the customer sees the value in the enchants you
want to sell him - and it's important that you learn how your customers
are. For example, the higher the PvP rank, the less likely the player
will not have everything enchanted - but if he lacks something, he will
most likely buy.

This is best way to sell enchants (as long as not many people do this
though.. otherwise people will easily get annoyed).


> And when you find a customer you then need to locate
> the materials in the AH (unless you carry a stock of the most common,
> but at around 5g for a large brilliant shard, or 8g for a greater
> eternal essence (on my server), the cost of keeping a varied stock can
> be huge).

Never ever buy materials from the auction house when you need them -
always buy them when you don't need them and put them on stock, because
then you have the choice to wait for a bargain. Then don't buy
materials, buy items to enchant.
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Zil schrieb:
> Sorry if I sound a little bitter - I've invested hundreds of gold in
> this profession, and have no chance of breaking even, never mind
> making a profit.

it´s not that hard. You just have to be patient. There is always
people in the Chat that say "Need enchanter, got mats".

I did enchanting slow+cheap. Tayloring was my second profession,
until 70s enchanting I made green tayloring stuff and disenchanted
them, so I raised both skills.

I never did orange enchants to raise my skill, only yellow.
I checked the AH a lot of times for enchanting stuff, used
tools like full auctioneer package + price each.

From 225 to 285, I tried to sell the enchants that were desired.
There´s a lot of Rogue twinks and they want +agility. I tried
to sell the stuff for rogues/hunters at yellow lvl for me.

At 285, you can enchant that magic potion, I think I did this
from 285 to 300 and sold it at the AH with profit.
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"Mahmut Kursun"
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> Zil schrieb:
>> Sorry if I sound a little bitter - I've invested hundreds of gold in
>> this profession, and have no chance of breaking even, never mind
>> making a profit.
>
> it´s not that hard. You just have to be patient. There is always
> people in the Chat that say "Need enchanter, got mats".
>
> I did enchanting slow+cheap. Tayloring was my second profession,
> until 70s enchanting I made green tayloring stuff and disenchanted
> them, so I raised both skills.
>
> I never did orange enchants to raise my skill, only yellow.
> I checked the AH a lot of times for enchanting stuff, used
> tools like full auctioneer package + price each.
>
> From 225 to 285, I tried to sell the enchants that were desired.
> There´s a lot of Rogue twinks and they want +agility. I tried
> to sell the stuff for rogues/hunters at yellow lvl for me.
>
> At 285, you can enchant that magic potion, I think I did this
> from 285 to 300 and sold it at the AH with profit.

It is far easier to make money disenchanting than enchanting, you do not
have to worry about your skill level as it has no impact on DEing items, you
can flog them in the AH and often there is no fee for listing them (dusts
etc have a 0 fee if I remember right). If you have an add on like enchantix,
if it still works, you can buy things on the AH that DE into shards 100% of
the time and put them straight back on the AH for more money. Being an
enchanter is helpfull in instances when BOP stuff drops that noone can use
as you can DE it and anyone can use the shard / dust / essence.

That said I got my enchanting to 300 before the potions were introduced,
lots of repeatedly enchanting the same set of gloves etc, giving away
enchants. Once I got some decent weapon enchants (+3 and 4 damage etc) then
I made a small amount but I now use it almost exclusively in guild. I have
never bothered with the arcanite rod so am not doing crusader etc, simply
fiery, icy chill +4 damage and the boot agi etc.

The difference between enchanting and the other trades is that it is far
more active - most professions you can craft stuff, stick it in the AH and
go off to an instance. Enchanting tends to mean you have to be more active
in trying to sell your stuff - Standing in IF spamming the trade channel
seems to be the favoured route but that has never really appealed to me.

--

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steve.kaye <nospam RemoveThis @giddy-kippers.co.uk> wrote:
> Zil wrote:
>
> > In fact I levelled up by mostly giving away enchants
> > for free, or enchanting grey items I bought at vendors and them
> > throwing them away.
>
> You don't need to give away enchants or to buy items to enchant to
> level up enchanting. Do you realise that you can enchant the same item
> over and over again? From what I read in this group it seems that very
> few people realise this.

Oh yes, I realised that, and used that method a lot myself; either
just re-enchant something of mine, or buy a grey item from a vendor
(they do have a use after all!) and repeatedly enchant that.

I just felt that giving away the enchants to people who could make use
of them was a nice way to go.

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Zil, Level 60 NE Priest, Aman Shan're, Stormrage Europe
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PV <pv+usenet@pobox.com> wrote:
> One good thing to do to help you level is to enchant all the gear for your
> alts. At least then you're not wasting it.
>

Of course this is only good for the BoE stuff.

And even with the BoE stuff I usually forget I can do this until it's
too late and I've equipped the item. D'oh!

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Zil, Level 60 NE Priest, Aman Shan're, Stormrage Europe
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In article <z_Nfg.1875$ap3.87@news-server.bigpond.net.au>,
"The Silverleafs" <freepaganchurch.RemoveThis@bigpond.com> wrote:

> HI all,
> just want to know what some of the benefits are for enchanting, as opposed
> to just one or the other for leatherworking or tailoring.
>
>

The only steady money I made from enchanting was from arcanite bars -
it's steady income, but you won't get rich quick. Now, there's an
enchant to make heart of fire -> elemental fire that's a money maker, or
at least on our server it is.

The only other money I made was from de-ing stuff - I'd go run Scarlet
Monestary or Shadowfang Keep and de the blues and greens, I raised my
mount money at 40 that way.

I'm told right now by guildies that enchanting for twinks is making
money, those guys will pay big money to put crusader and life stealing
on level 20 toons.

The only other use is to de BOE stuff on raids, but chances are, someone
else will be able to do it.

I wholeheartedly agree with the others that enchants need to be storable
on scrolls or in potions, and possibly have NPCs in major towns be the
ones to apply them - it took me a week to find an enchanter that could
do a crusader for me, I had the mats. It would have been so much easier
if there was an NPC that I can go to with the mats, and say 15g, and get
it applied.

(and crusader on a Krohl Blade is the coolest thing ever...muahahahahaha)

I really would be more interested in this game if they spent one patch
on revamping professions, and making changes like stored enchants, or
have NPCs that can do them for you, for a price.
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Zil <zen13097 RemoveThis @zen.co.uk> wrote in news:44803580$0$1238$db0fefd9
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> I just felt that giving away the enchants to people who could make use
> of them was a nice way to go.

Same here. I'm very low-level at enchanting but my tailor is about 210 and
I like to make lowbie enchanted armor and wands and hand them out in the
lowbie areas. "Free level 5 wand to casters" tends to get attention in
Goldshire, Karanos, and Dolanaar. I'll usually get a couple tells, "I want
one!" I may give them linen bags, as well, perhaps in trade for a stack of
linen to make another set for the next handout.
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On Fri, 02 Jun 2006 16:49:37 -0700, Doppleganger
<Doppleganger.DeleteThis@earthlink.net> wrote:


>I really would be more interested in this game if they spent one patch
>on revamping professions, and making changes like stored enchants, or
>have NPCs that can do them for you, for a price.

Stored enchants (scrolls) sound great, but NPCs doing enchants would
render the profession useless.


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Doppleganger wrote:
> In article <z_Nfg.1875$ap3.87@news-server.bigpond.net.au>,
> "The Silverleafs" <freepaganchurch DeleteThis @bigpond.com> wrote:

> The only steady money I made from enchanting was from arcanite bars -
> it's steady income, but you won't get rich quick. Now, there's an
> enchant to make heart of fire -> elemental fire that's a money maker, or
> at least on our server it is.

That's Alchemy.
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Doppleganger <Doppleganger.TakeThisOut@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> The only steady money I made from enchanting was from arcanite bars -

Erm. Doing what with arcanite bars?
Sounds like you're thinking of transmuting arcane crystals to arcanite
bars, which is a job for an alcemhist, not an enchanter.


> it's steady income, but you won't get rich quick. Now, there's an
> enchant to make heart of fire -> elemental fire that's a money maker, or
> at least on our server it is.

You're definitely thinking of Alcheny here. Whole different
profession.

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Zil, Level 60 NE Priest, Aman Shan're, Stormrage Europe
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Doppleganger <Doppleganger RemoveThis @earthlink.net> writes:
>The only steady money I made from enchanting was from arcanite bars -
>it's steady income, but you won't get rich quick. Now, there's an
>enchant to make heart of fire -> elemental fire that's a money maker, or
>at least on our server it is.

You mean alchemy, not enchanting. Both of those are alchemy things. *
--
* PV something like badgers--something like lizards--and something
like corkscrews.
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>>At 285, you can enchant that magic potion, I think I did this
>>from 285 to 300 and sold it at the AH with profit.

Whoa whoa ... I am a 290 enchanter and know nothing of enchanting
potions. What is this about? Please fill me in! Thanks.


Mahmut Kursun wrote:
> Zil schrieb:
> > Sorry if I sound a little bitter - I've invested hundreds of gold in
> > this profession, and have no chance of breaking even, never mind
> > making a profit.
>
> it´s not that hard. You just have to be patient. There is always
> people in the Chat that say "Need enchanter, got mats".
>
> I did enchanting slow+cheap. Tayloring was my second profession,
> until 70s enchanting I made green tayloring stuff and disenchanted
> them, so I raised both skills.
>
> I never did orange enchants to raise my skill, only yellow.
> I checked the AH a lot of times for enchanting stuff, used
> tools like full auctioneer package + price each.
>
> From 225 to 285, I tried to sell the enchants that were desired.
> There´s a lot of Rogue twinks and they want +agility. I tried
> to sell the stuff for rogues/hunters at yellow lvl for me.
>
> At 285, you can enchant that magic potion, I think I did this
> from 285 to 300 and sold it at the AH with profit.
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Brian wrote:
> >
> >Whoa whoa ... I am a 290 enchanter and know nothing of enchanting
> >potions. What is this about? Please fill me in! Thanks.
>
> 1) Run down to Silithus.
> 2) Second floor of the inn there's an Enchanting Supplier.
> 3) Buy the formula for Wizard Oil.
> ...
> ...
> 4) Profit!
>
> Brian


Nah, you want the Brilliant Mana Oil from Zandalar Rep, damn expensive
to make though.
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