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Somewhere on teh intarweb "Patrick Vervoorn" typed:
> In article <wDKsj.130$VG.60@newsfe02.lga>,
> Shiflet <rshiflet RemoveThis @charter.net> wrote:
>> Indeed, gl with that;-)


Good luck from me also.

> I'm sure that will be solved, I've been buying my computer hardware at
> that same shop for the past years, but I'm a bit wary for the amount
> of time the machine will be out of commission; getting replacements
> for a defective mainboard and/or graphics card does take some time,
> in my experience.

You're still running SETI? If so, and there was any problem with the
CPU/RAM/Mobo subset then you'd be seeing 'compute errors' on your results
page. Sounds to me like it's likely just graphics card.

You guys have me quite interested. My P35/Core 2 Duo @ 3.3GHz with 2GB RAM
should be okay I'm guessing. What about the 7800GT? Hopefully it'll be good
enough. I might Google later. <g>

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In article <47b41718$1@news2.actrix.gen.nz>,
~misfit~ <misfit61nz.TakeThisOut@yahoot.com.au> wrote:
>Somewhere on teh intarweb "Patrick Vervoorn" typed:
>> In article <wDKsj.130$VG.60@newsfe02.lga>,
>> Shiflet <rshiflet.TakeThisOut@charter.net> wrote:

>Good luck from me also.

Thanks.

>> I'm sure that will be solved, I've been buying my computer hardware at
>> that same shop for the past years, but I'm a bit wary for the amount
>> of time the machine will be out of commission; getting replacements
>> for a defective mainboard and/or graphics card does take some time,
>> in my experience.
>
>You're still running SETI? If so, and there was any problem with the
>CPU/RAM/Mobo subset then you'd be seeing 'compute errors' on your results
>page. Sounds to me like it's likely just graphics card.

No, nothing wrong with the CPU. Just a freezing display after about 0.5 to
1.5 hours of heavy 3D activity. I finally settled on the NVidia 'Froggy'
demo in Flyby 2 mode to test this; after running that for about 0.5-1.0
hours, the display would start to stutter, artifacts would appear, but the
temperatures according to nTune/Everest, still looked quite within specs.

I assume it is/was another component, not near any of the temperature
sensors, and perhaps not making good contact with the gargantuan cooler on
the 8800GTX, overheating and failing after warming up for that period of
time.

However, when installing a loaner card from the above-mentioned shop,
things went from wrong to worse, and now the system isn't booting anymore,
or very erratically, and this looks very much mainboard-related.
Installing either card (8800GTX, 8600GT) doesn't make any difference.
Perhaps the installation/deinstallation only provoked another problem in
the mainboard, and perhaps a component on the mainboard, related perhaps
to the PCI-E bus, was overheating, and causing the failures.

Anyway, this is now out of my league, since I don't have another system
with a PCI-E bus to test with, nor do I have another PCI-E card to
experiment with either.

>You guys have me quite interested. My P35/Core 2 Duo @ 3.3GHz with 2GB RAM
>should be okay I'm guessing. What about the 7800GT? Hopefully it'll be good
>enough. I might Google later. <g>

I think it'll run it fine enough. It doing semi-OK on my P4-2.4GHz with a
7600GT, and most slowdowns are more CPU/processing related than the
videocard not being able to keep up. Of course, running it under Vista
isn't helping either, and with the Q6600 system away, I'm seriously
considering reverting back to XP on that machine.

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"~misfit~" <misfit61nz.RemoveThis@yahoot.com.au> wrote in message
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> You guys have me quite interested.

Have you signed up for the beta at Mythos.com? If not, give it a shot, and
if they shoot any more invites my way I'll make sure one of em is yours.

> My P35/Core 2 Duo @ 3.3GHz with 2GB RAM should be okay I'm guessing. What
> about the 7800GT? Hopefully it'll be good enough. I might Google later.
> <g>

Should definitely be good enough.

> Cheers,
> --
> Shaun.
>
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> Isn't the Bloodletter also not the build which has a quite viable Minion
> tree a la the Necromancer?

Aye, there are some bloodletter minion builds that I don't know specifics.


> In-game most people seem to point one towards Elite for the better drops.
> Same in the forums. No idea how 'crowded' Elite is?

Elite is fairly popular. For what it's worth, drops aren't so much "better"
in elite, it's simply that bosses and superunique monsters have a higher
chance to drop purple rarity and higher items, and due to the fact that
there's more boss and super mobs in elite mode, you have more chances to get
those items.

> Hmm, figures, although perhaps in the final version they should perhaps
> consider keeping the amount of seperate 'realms' a bit lower. In the
> current setup there are 4, Normal/Elite + SC/HC. But perhaps they're using
> Normal/Elite to get a feel for what's doable, but still challenging..?

Not sure, I tend to think of it as being like SCL(elite)/SCNL(normal) and
likewise HCL/HCNL in D2.

> Nice. I just gave it some random junk items, to get some extra mods, and
> the Enchanter quite nicely provided these, and I was lucky, since no
> 'junk' mods were added.

Aye, the enchanter is a great source of gear. Can get costly, but you can
get some really nice stuff from him.

> Regards, Patrick.
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In article <S%9tj.159$IN2.81@newsfe06.lga>,
Shiflet <rshiflet RemoveThis @charter.net> wrote:
>
>"Patrick Vervoorn" <patrick.vervoorn RemoveThis @NOSPAM.perihelion.demon.nl> wrote in
>message news:463ea$47b4b458$82a1d3bf$18255@news1.tudelft.nl...
>
>> Isn't the Bloodletter also not the build which has a quite viable Minion
>> tree a la the Necromancer?
>
>Aye, there are some bloodletter minion builds that I don't know specifics.

Same here, but definately something to find out, especially since I'm also
rather fond of a Summoner in D2.

BTW, is there a skill like the Sorceress' Teleport in this game?

>> In-game most people seem to point one towards Elite for the better drops.
>> Same in the forums. No idea how 'crowded' Elite is?
>
>Elite is fairly popular. For what it's worth, drops aren't so much "better"
>in elite, it's simply that bosses and superunique monsters have a higher
>chance to drop purple rarity and higher items, and due to the fact that
>there's more boss and super mobs in elite mode, you have more chances to get
>those items.

OK.

>> Hmm, figures, although perhaps in the final version they should perhaps
>> consider keeping the amount of seperate 'realms' a bit lower. In the
>> current setup there are 4, Normal/Elite + SC/HC. But perhaps they're using
>> Normal/Elite to get a feel for what's doable, but still challenging..?
>
>Not sure, I tend to think of it as being like SCL(elite)/SCNL(normal) and
>likewise HCL/HCNL in D2.

That's what it indeed looks like, but without the limited 'lifetime' of a
Ladder, I'm not sure what Elite would do/add. We'll see, perhaps Flagship
still has some nice goodies in store for us.

>> Nice. I just gave it some random junk items, to get some extra mods, and
>> the Enchanter quite nicely provided these, and I was lucky, since no
>> 'junk' mods were added.
>
>Aye, the enchanter is a great source of gear. Can get costly, but you can
>get some really nice stuff from him.

Is running into an Enchanter a random event, or are they sprinkled around
the map at pre-set locations?

Regards, Patrick.
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> Same here, but definately something to find out, especially since I'm also
> rather fond of a Summoner in D2.

Aye, not sure if Mythos summoners are on par with D2 ones, but I know
they're out there.

> BTW, is there a skill like the Sorceress' Teleport in this game?

Not that I know of, though there may be one on the pyromancer trees(dunno
their skills at all).

> That's what it indeed looks like, but without the limited 'lifetime' of a
> Ladder, I'm not sure what Elite would do/add. We'll see, perhaps Flagship
> still has some nice goodies in store for us.

Hmm, true...

> Is running into an Enchanter a random event, or are they sprinkled around
> the map at pre-set locations?

Based on what I've seen so far, each "act" has 1 specific town where the
enchanter stays. Also, if you're out adventuring and fighting, and you see a
"wandering merchant" be SURE and check their stuff. From my experience, it's
almost always a higher level than the general stuff you find at the same
area, and they often stock purple/orange items.

> Regards, Patrick.
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In article <LSdtj.8553$iB4.972@newsfe07.lga>,
Shiflet <rshiflet RemoveThis @charter.net> wrote:
>
>"Patrick Vervoorn" <patrick.vervoorn RemoveThis @NOSPAM.perihelion.demon.nl> wrote in
>message news:b7b0d$47b5408f$82a1d3bf$8226@news1.tudelft.nl...
>
>> Same here, but definately something to find out, especially since I'm also
>> rather fond of a Summoner in D2.
>
>Aye, not sure if Mythos summoners are on par with D2 ones, but I know
>they're out there.

Okido.

>> BTW, is there a skill like the Sorceress' Teleport in this game?
>
>Not that I know of, though there may be one on the pyromancer trees(dunno
>their skills at all).

Well, if your next character is a Bloodletter, perhaps it'd be more
efficient if try a Pyromancer? Our current setup, where we're both
building a Barrage/Napalm Gadgeteer isn't uncovering too much new ground,
and things won't improve if we both build a Bloodletter next.

>> Is running into an Enchanter a random event, or are they sprinkled around
>> the map at pre-set locations?
>
>Based on what I've seen so far, each "act" has 1 specific town where the
>enchanter stays.

Woops. I can't for the life of me recall where I ran into the Enchanter in
Act 1. Time to do some city-re-exploring then, since I still have plenty
of coins to burn, since the same random guy who gave me some nice
rifles/rings/amulets, also handed over about 5 gold (For those wondering,
the money in Mythos is divided in Copper, Silver and Gold coins. 100
Copper get you a Silver, and 100 Silver get you a Gold.)

Is in-game coinage the preferred currency when trading actually? I also
see there are plenty of gem-types (much more than in D2, with things like
Aquamarines, Pearls, etc). But I haven't spotted anything 'rune' like, yet
anyway?

>Also, if you're out adventuring and fighting, and you see a
>"wandering merchant" be SURE and check their stuff. From my experience, it's
>almost always a higher level than the general stuff you find at the same
>area, and they often stock purple/orange items.

Do you mean the merchants who are usually parked on top of a dungeon, or
is there another class of merchant that really 'wanders' around?

Regards, Patrick.
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"Patrick Vervoorn" <patrick.vervoorn DeleteThis @NOSPAM.perihelion.demon.nl> wrote in
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> Well, if your next character is a Bloodletter, perhaps it'd be more
> efficient if try a Pyromancer? Our current setup, where we're both
> building a Barrage/Napalm Gadgeteer isn't uncovering too much new ground,
> and things won't improve if we both build a Bloodletter next.

That might be a good idea;-)

> Woops. I can't for the life of me recall where I ran into the Enchanter in
> Act 1. Time to do some city-re-exploring then, since I still have plenty
> of coins to burn, since the same random guy who gave me some nice
> rifles/rings/amulets, also handed over about 5 gold (For those wondering,
> the money in Mythos is divided in Copper, Silver and Gold coins. 100
> Copper get you a Silver, and 100 Silver get you a Gold.)

LOL, I...forget what town he's in too, heh. I know in act 2 he hangs out in
Aven's Cut, but I just can't recall the act 1 town he's in, heh.

> Is in-game coinage the preferred currency when trading actually? I also
> see there are plenty of gem-types (much more than in D2, with things like
> Aquamarines, Pearls, etc). But I haven't spotted anything 'rune' like, yet
> anyway?

Yeah, most trades are done with actual coins, though a few gems have
value(the ones that add luck, I forget which they are) fetch a reasonable
price. There's not any runes yet, though from what I understand that's being
"worked on".

> Do you mean the merchants who are usually parked on top of a dungeon, or
> is there another class of merchant that really 'wanders' around?

There actually is a "wandering" merchant who randomly appears in explorable
areas, usually standing near a house or building of some sort. I don't know
where all they can spawn or if it's just certain areas they can appear in, I
don't know if there's anyway or anything you can do to "encourage" their
appearance, etc, I just know that from time to time I find a merchant out in
explorable zones who usually had comparatively high end gear.

> Regards, Patrick.
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In article <IMetj.2$Cu3.0@newsfe02.lga>, Shiflet <rshiflet.TakeThisOut@charter.net> wrote:
>
>"Patrick Vervoorn" <patrick.vervoorn.TakeThisOut@NOSPAM.perihelion.demon.nl> wrote in
>message news:e244a$47b57181$82a1d3bf$26500@news1.tudelft.nl...
>
>> Well, if your next character is a Bloodletter, perhaps it'd be more
>> efficient if try a Pyromancer? Our current setup, where we're both
>> building a Barrage/Napalm Gadgeteer isn't uncovering too much new ground,
>> and things won't improve if we both build a Bloodletter next.
>
>That might be a good idea;-)

OK, will do. If I get some time this coming weekend, I'll start a 2nd
char, a Pyromancer. Until clvl5 I can in any case re-allocate the skills
at will. Hopefully that will give me an idea of what to expect/do.

[Enchanter]

>LOL, I...forget what town he's in too, heh. I know in act 2 he hangs out in
>Aven's Cut, but I just can't recall the act 1 town he's in, heh.

Oh dear. Well, I'll find him again!

>> Is in-game coinage the preferred currency when trading actually? I also
>> see there are plenty of gem-types (much more than in D2, with things like
>> Aquamarines, Pearls, etc). But I haven't spotted anything 'rune' like, yet
>> anyway?
>
>Yeah, most trades are done with actual coins, though a few gems have
>value(the ones that add luck, I forget which they are) fetch a reasonable
>price. There's not any runes yet, though from what I understand that's being
>"worked on".

Aha, ok, I'll keep an eye out for the +luck gems. Until now, I've stashed
away all gems I find, since they're not too common. The stash is pretty
big, but of course I will run out of room soon enough.

>> Do you mean the merchants who are usually parked on top of a dungeon, or
>> is there another class of merchant that really 'wanders' around?
>
>There actually is a "wandering" merchant who randomly appears in explorable
>areas, usually standing near a house or building of some sort. I don't know
>where all they can spawn or if it's just certain areas they can appear in, I
>don't know if there's anyway or anything you can do to "encourage" their
>appearance, etc, I just know that from time to time I find a merchant out in
>explorable zones who usually had comparatively high end gear.

OK, never ran into this one, but I'll keep an eye out then!

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Somewhere on teh intarweb "Shiflet" typed:
> "~misfit~" <misfit61nz RemoveThis @yahoot.com.au> wrote in message
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>> You guys have me quite interested.
>
> Have you signed up for the beta at Mythos.com?

I signed up after posting here yesterday but haven't heard from them.

> If not, give it a
> shot, and if they shoot any more invites my way I'll make sure one of
> em is yours.

Thanks.

I'm at misfitnz at gmail.

>> My P35/Core 2 Duo @ 3.3GHz with 2GB RAM should be okay I'm guessing.
>> What about the 7800GT? Hopefully it'll be good enough. I might
>> Google later. <g>
>
> Should definitely be good enough.

Cool. I'm certainly not ready to give up D2 yet but variety is the spice of
life and all that. I haven't found a game since D2 that's kept me interested
for more than a week or three, Mythos sounds like it might.

Cheers,
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"~misfit~" <misfit61nz.RemoveThis@yahoot.com.au> wrote in message
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> I signed up after posting here yesterday but haven't heard from them.

Alrighty, I dunno how often they send out invites, hopefully you'll get one
here soon.

> Thanks.
>
> I'm at misfitnz at gmail.

No prob, I'll keep checkin the main page to see if I get any more invites.

> Cool. I'm certainly not ready to give up D2 yet but variety is the spice
> of life and all that. I haven't found a game since D2 that's kept me
> interested for more than a week or three, Mythos sounds like it might.

Indeed, tis good to have options.

> Cheers,
> --
> Shaun.
>
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Somewhere on teh intarweb "Patrick Vervoorn" typed:
> In article <47b41718$1@news2.actrix.gen.nz>,
> ~misfit~ <misfit61nz.TakeThisOut@yahoot.com.au> wrote:
>> Somewhere on teh intarweb "Patrick Vervoorn" typed:
>>> In article <wDKsj.130$VG.60@newsfe02.lga>,
>>> Shiflet <rshiflet.TakeThisOut@charter.net> wrote:
>
>> Good luck from me also.
>
> Thanks.
>
>>> I'm sure that will be solved, I've been buying my computer hardware
>>> at that same shop for the past years, but I'm a bit wary for the
>>> amount of time the machine will be out of commission; getting
>>> replacements for a defective mainboard and/or graphics card does
>>> take some time, in my experience.
>>
>> You're still running SETI? If so, and there was any problem with the
>> CPU/RAM/Mobo subset then you'd be seeing 'compute errors' on your
>> results page. Sounds to me like it's likely just graphics card.
>
> No, nothing wrong with the CPU. Just a freezing display after about
> 0.5 to
> 1.5 hours of heavy 3D activity. I finally settled on the NVidia
> 'Froggy' demo in Flyby 2 mode to test this; after running that for
> about 0.5-1.0 hours, the display would start to stutter, artifacts
> would appear, but the temperatures according to nTune/Everest, still
> looked quite within specs.
>
> I assume it is/was another component, not near any of the temperature
> sensors, and perhaps not making good contact with the gargantuan
> cooler on the 8800GTX, overheating and failing after warming up for
> that period of time.
>
> However, when installing a loaner card from the above-mentioned shop,
> things went from wrong to worse, and now the system isn't booting
> anymore, or very erratically, and this looks very much
> mainboard-related. Installing either card (8800GTX, 8600GT) doesn't
> make any difference. Perhaps the installation/deinstallation only
> provoked another problem in the mainboard, and perhaps a component on
> the mainboard, related perhaps to the PCI-E bus, was overheating, and
> causing the failures.

One more option to consider: That 8800GTX behemoth really sucks the power. I
take it that there are (2?) 12V leads going from the power supply to the
card. If they're on a dedicated sub-circuit of the PSU then the problem
could lie within the PSU (failed capacitors...). Just a thought, it could be
cheaper to try/get the PC shop to try/ a different PSU before a new
motherboard and/or graphics card.

> Anyway, this is now out of my league, since I don't have another
> system with a PCI-E bus to test with, nor do I have another PCI-E
> card to experiment with either.
>
>> You guys have me quite interested. My P35/Core 2 Duo @ 3.3GHz with
>> 2GB RAM should be okay I'm guessing. What about the 7800GT?
>> Hopefully it'll be good enough. I might Google later. <g>
>
> I think it'll run it fine enough. It doing semi-OK on my P4-2.4GHz
> with a 7600GT, and most slowdowns are more CPU/processing related
> than the videocard not being able to keep up.

Excellent.

> Of course, running it
> under Vista isn't helping either, and with the Q6600 system away, I'm
> seriously considering reverting back to XP on that machine.

I will vigourously defend my PCs from Vista and could only see myself ever
using it if there was a killer app that I required that needed Vista to run.
Otherwise I'm sticking with XP. I hear Microsoft have accelerated their
development of the next Windows significantly. As an indication of it's
popularity, on NZ's version of eBay, XP licences outsell Vista and also sell
for more.

Cheers,
--
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In article <47b4eac3.RemoveThis@news2.actrix.gen.nz>,
~misfit~ <misfit61nz.RemoveThis@yahoot.com.au> wrote:
>Somewhere on teh intarweb "Patrick Vervoorn" typed:

[some snippage]

>> However, when installing a loaner card from the above-mentioned shop,
>> things went from wrong to worse, and now the system isn't booting
>> anymore, or very erratically, and this looks very much
>> mainboard-related. Installing either card (8800GTX, 8600GT) doesn't
>> make any difference. Perhaps the installation/deinstallation only
>> provoked another problem in the mainboard, and perhaps a component on
>> the mainboard, related perhaps to the PCI-E bus, was overheating, and
>> causing the failures.
>
>One more option to consider: That 8800GTX behemoth really sucks the power. I
>take it that there are (2?) 12V leads going from the power supply to the
>card. If they're on a dedicated sub-circuit of the PSU then the problem
>could lie within the PSU (failed capacitors...). Just a thought, it could be
>cheaper to try/get the PC shop to try/ a different PSU before a new
>motherboard and/or graphics card.

Yep, 2 x PCI-E lead going to the 8800GTX. The supply is an Antec NeoHE550.
I'm not discounting anything, but the times the machine did start up (best
chances when I booted it 'cold' after it had been turned off during
daytime or night), no complaints about that. The NVidia drivers have AFAIK
a way of detecting whether the videocard gets enough power, and pop up a
warning when it doesn't. (It did when I once forgot to connect the
power-lead to a 6600GT).

Anyway, I dropped it off yesterday-evening, they would be looking at it
this morning, so I'll hear from them when/if they find the cause of it
all.

>> Of course, running it
>> under Vista isn't helping either, and with the Q6600 system away, I'm
>> seriously considering reverting back to XP on that machine.
>
>I will vigourously defend my PCs from Vista and could only see myself ever
>using it if there was a killer app that I required that needed Vista to run.
>Otherwise I'm sticking with XP. I hear Microsoft have accelerated their
>development of the next Windows significantly. As an indication of it's
>popularity, on NZ's version of eBay, XP licences outsell Vista and also sell
>for more.

I had installed Vista more out of curiosity than anything else, when I got
the old gaming machine replaced with the new one. I never did expect to
have to get back to the 'old' machine in this way. I also found the option
in the shortcut to turn of Aero when starting a program, so that allows me
to run Diablo II, combined with Sven Labusch' Glide Wrapper, under Vista
without major problems or a lot of fiddling.

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