Deck - What's behind Rabbat's Mask?

johnmeier1 wrote:
> You should include either Hospital Food or Aaron's Feeding Razor or
> both. I had Rabbat tooled up with these and Blood Doll and had bloated
> back above 20 pool in a game.
>
> HUGE!


I like HUGE!

I will have to give it a try.

Comments Welcome,
Norman S. Brown, Jr
XZealot
Archon of the Swamp
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Just incase you would like some input...
Here are my thoughts...

> Crypt [13 vampires] Capacity min: 2 max: 7 average: 4.24
> ------------------------------------------------------------
>
> 4x Rabbat, The Sewer 7 ANI FOR OBF pot Nosferatu:4
> 1x Antoinette Dubois 4 PRE for mel Daughter :4
> 1x Nkechi 4 aus for val !Salubri:4
> 1x Bothwell 3 ani for Gangrel:3
> 1x Lana Butcher 3 dom for Ventrue:3
> 1x Mr. Noir 3 for obe Salubri:4
> 1x Rashiel 3 for val !Salubri:4
> 1x Rosemarie 3 FOR mel Daughter :4
> 1x Aimee Laroux 2 for pre Daughter :4
> 1x Sarah Raines 2 for Gangrel:3
>
>
> Library [90 cards]
> ------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Action [7]
> 6x Go Anarch
> 1x Status Perfectus, The
>
> Action Modifier [27]
> 3x Bear-Baiting
> 10x Freak Drive
> 6x Hidden Lurker
> 8x Mask of a Thousand Faces

About Bear-Baiting... Won't it be more likely then not that your crypt
is smaller then your Prey's? I would rather have cloaks myself...
Shouldn't it be more Hidden lurkers then Masks? You are very bleedy,
and more likely then not, you'll be blocked bleeding... No? And hidden
lurker works on the undirected actions too.

> Combat [19]
> 4x Pulled Fangs
> 5x Skin of Rock
> 5x Skin of Steel
> 5x Soak

I'm guessing that Rabbat can't be an anarch... Since he can't mask an
Go Anarch action then. But I would think that Groundfighting would be
good for him. Manuever/press or cancel a card that prevents you to
strike "Go to Torpor, Biatch!" Only need 1 or 2, just incase.

> Equipment [7]
> 3x Laptop Computer
> 1x Seal of Veddartha
> 3x Stolen Police Cruiser

Seal of Veddartha
Type: Equipment
Cost: 1 pool
Unique equipment.
Only usable by a vampire with capacity above 5. This vampire can bleed
at +1 bleed as a (D) action. During each of your untap phases, put a
counter on this card if it has fewer than four counters. The first two
counters each grant this vampire one level of Dominate [dom]. The next
two each grant this vampire one level of Fortitude [for]. Remove all
counters from this card if another minion gains control of it.

One. only Rabbat is big enough to use it but he can't take (D) actions.
Unless a 4 cap gets a fortitude skill card and another Skill card from
somebody else?

Two... Umm, can't think of anything else about it... Don't think it
belongs here.

I think a Aaron's feeding razor is great for this deck. If Rabbat
isn't doing anything, he'll just hunt for a pool and blood. Or a
Sargon Fragment... Rabbat would take that action if you need something
in your hand...

> Master [17]
> 1x Anarch Free Press, The
> 5x Anarch Revolt
> 3x Blood Doll
> 1x Dummy Corporation
> 2x Fortitude
> 1x Rumor Mill, Tabloid Newspaper, The
> 4x Tribute to the Master

Heidenburg... Come on, move the bleed retainers/Police
cruisers//laptop around for more damage.
Maybe Storm Sewers? Take an action and make sure it's close range...
Who would block?
Or every an Anarch Railroad? If Stealth is good... Prem stealth is
even better.

> Reaction [10]
> 7x Friend of Mine
> 3x Wake with Evening's Freshness
>
> Retainer [3]
> 1x J. S. Simmons, Esq.
> 1x Robert Carter
> 1x Tasha Morgan

Robert Carter on little guys would have them hunting too much, no?
Ok, a 4 cap get's Robert Carter... (3 blood) on your next untap, burns
a blood.. (2 blood) Bleed for 3.
Unless you are pushing blood on them.
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I can't work out what the Mask of 1000 faces are for? The retainers are
there for bleed mods as are the laptops, so presumably you intend on
pumping up a minon with bleed mods then masking with Rabbat to change
who the combat is with.

Correct me if I'm wrong but given that Rabbat can't perform directed
actions that would mean that she can't Mask of 1000 faces a bleed
action since she could not perform the action therefore does not meet
the requirements of the Mask for 1000 faces, due to the "or other
effects" clause on Mask of 1000 Faces.

Name: Mask of a Thousand Faces
Cardtype: Action Modifier
Discipline: Obfuscate
Only usable by a ready, untapped vampire other than the acting minion
who is capable of performing the action. Not usable if any action
modifiers ={or other effects}= have been {used} that could not have
been {used} if this vampire were the acting vampire.
[obf] Untap the acting minion and tap this vampire instead. Now this
vampire is the acting minion. The action resumes where it left off.
[OBF] As above, with +1 stealth.

Rabbat, The Sewer Goddess [KMW:PAn]
Cardtype: Vampire
Clan: Nosferatu
Group: 4
Capacity: 7
Discipline: pot ANI FOR OBF
Independent. Red List: Rabbat may send a vampire to torpor or burn an
ally as a strike. If she hunts, you may move 1 of the blood she gains
to your pool. She cannot take (D) actions or block actions that aren't
directed at her or at a card on her.


My Rabbat deck plays with Mid cap Ventrue with FOR. I do a large
Presence action Dominate modifier bleed to pump up for a bleed for 4 -
8 obviously I get blocked, so I either Majesty or fort away the damage
the Rabbat plays Hidden Lurker and comes to play Draw out the
opponent's beast to stop the running away then Torpor time. Freak Drive
Rabbat do the same with the next Ventrue bleeder. You prey gets the
picture soon enough.

Having a hunting ground or 2 helps with the blood loss from the Freak
Drives and Majesties. Given that your Ventrue should be untapped thanks
to Majesty you then have a bleed deflection mechanism so you don't have
to worry too much about your predator. Even if you have to block you've
got the S:CE or Fortitude to keep combat safe.
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I can't work out what the Mask of 1000 faces are for? The retainers are
there for bleed mods as are the laptops, so presumably you intend on
pumping up a minon with bleed mods then masking with Rabbat to change
who the combat is with.

Correct me if I'm wrong but given that Rabbat can't perform directed
actions that would mean that she can't Mask of 1000 faces a bleed
action since she could not perform the action therefore does not meet
the requirements of the Mask for 1000 faces, due to the "or other
effects" clause on Mask of 1000 Faces.

Name: Mask of a Thousand Faces
Cardtype: Action Modifier
Discipline: Obfuscate
Only usable by a ready, untapped vampire other than the acting minion
who is capable of performing the action. Not usable if any action
modifiers ={or other effects}= have been {used} that could not have
been {used} if this vampire were the acting vampire.
[obf] Untap the acting minion and tap this vampire instead. Now this
vampire is the acting minion. The action resumes where it left off.
[OBF] As above, with +1 stealth.

Rabbat, The Sewer Goddess [KMW:PAn]
Cardtype: Vampire
Clan: Nosferatu
Group: 4
Capacity: 7
Discipline: pot ANI FOR OBF
Independent. Red List: Rabbat may send a vampire to torpor or burn an
ally as a strike. If she hunts, you may move 1 of the blood she gains
to your pool. She cannot take (D) actions or block actions that aren't
directed at her or at a card on her.


My Rabbat deck plays with Mid cap Ventrue with FOR. I do a large
Presence action Dominate modifier bleed to pump up for a bleed for 4 -
8 obviously I get blocked, so I either Majesty or fort away the damage
the Rabbat plays Hidden Lurker and comes to play Draw out the
opponent's beast to stop the running away then Torpor time. Freak Drive
Rabbat do the same with the next Ventrue bleeder. You prey gets the
picture soon enough.

Having a hunting ground or 2 helps with the blood loss from the Freak
Drives and Majesties. Given that your Ventrue should be untapped thanks
to Majesty you then have a bleed deflection mechanism so you don't have
to worry too much about your predator. Even if you have to block you've
got the S:CE or Fortitude to keep combat safe.
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bernard.macnaught RemoveThis @gmail.com wrote:

> My Rabbat deck plays with Mid cap Ventrue with FOR. I do a large
> Presence action Dominate modifier bleed to pump up for a bleed for 4 -
> 8 obviously I get blocked, so I either Majesty or fort away the damage
> the Rabbat plays Hidden Lurker and comes to play Draw out the
> opponent's beast to stop the running away then Torpor time. Freak Drive
> Rabbat do the same with the next Ventrue bleeder. You prey gets the
> picture soon enough.

Rabbat cannot Freak after a Hidden Lurker combat since she is not the
acting vampire.
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>My Rabbat deck plays with Mid cap Ventrue with FOR. I do a large
>Presence action Dominate modifier bleed to pump up for a bleed for 4 -
>8 obviously I get blocked, so I either Majesty or fort away the damage
>the Rabbat plays Hidden Lurker and comes to play Draw out the
>opponent's beast to stop the running away then Torpor time. Freak Drive
>Rabbat do the same with the next Ventrue bleeder. You prey gets the
>picture soon enough.

can you freak drive after Hidden Lurker??? IIRC, HL is an action mod,
not an action..... so she can't modify an action she did not take...
not sure though...

cheers
Luciano "The Baital" de Sampaio
VEKN Anarch Baron de Curitiba
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Good point. I'd better stop playing it like that then.
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bernard.macnaught.TakeThisOut@gmail.com wrote:
> I can't work out what the Mask of 1000 faces are for?

To make people think twice before attempting to block any undirected
action the weenies take. Because if people block, they're liable to
enter combat with Rabbat instead, and her special is scary. That's the
idea.


The retainers are
> there for bleed mods as are the laptops,

And they are undirected actions.


so presumably you intend on
> pumping up a minon with bleed mods then masking with Rabbat to change
> who the combat is with.

That's what the Hidden Lurkers are for - directed actions that are
blocked and Rabbat can't Mask.
But I vaguely recall the original post mentioned that.


> Correct me if I'm wrong but given that Rabbat can't perform directed
> actions that would mean that she can't Mask of 1000 faces a bleed
> action

Sure. But there's some undirected actions in there, regular hunts
notwithstanding.


>Freak Drive
> Rabbat do the same with the next Ventrue bleeder.

Not possible, as noted. But you can always untap her via other means,
thought they have the potential to clutter the deck - Eurayle Gelasia
Mylonas, any Skill Card + Mylan Horseed, this kind of thing.

Fabio "Sooner" Macedo
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In message <1141861430.610930.265520 RemoveThis @i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
kulaid871 RemoveThis @gmail.com writes:
>I'm guessing that Rabbat can't be an anarch... Since he can't mask an
>Go Anarch action then.

Hmm, I'm confused. What are you saying?

Rabbat can take the Go Anarch action, or the default anarch-making
action, because they're both undirected actions. And Rabbat could Mask
them, assuming nothing freakish has been played that couldn't have been
played by Rabbat. (Standard Mask rulings headache.)

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James Coupe wrote:
> In message <1141861430.610930.265520.TakeThisOut@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
> kulaid871.TakeThisOut@gmail.com writes:
>
>>I'm guessing that Rabbat can't be an anarch... Since he can't mask an
>>Go Anarch action then.
>
>
> Hmm, I'm confused. What are you saying?
>
> Rabbat can take the Go Anarch action, or the default anarch-making
> action, because they're both undirected actions. And Rabbat could Mask
> them, assuming nothing freakish has been played that couldn't have been
> played by Rabbat. (Standard Mask rulings headache.)
>

If Rabbat is an anarch she can't mask her little friends going anarch as
well.

The Go Anarch action card requires a non-anarch. I assume the same
restriction is on the default action.
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FC wrote:
>
> If Rabbat is an anarch she can't mask her little friends going anarch as
> well.
>
> The Go Anarch action card requires a non-anarch. I assume the same
> restriction is on the default action.
>
Ah, yes, I see. So, Rabbat *can* be an anarch, but you don't want her
to be, because if she is, she can't Mask the Go Anarch action. Since
she'll only Mask when something is blocked, she won't ever become
Anarch unless you want her to be, but... you don't want her to be.
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kulaid871 RemoveThis @gmail.com wrote:
> Just incase you would like some input...
> Here are my thoughts...
>
> > Crypt [13 vampires] Capacity min: 2 max: 7 average: 4.24
> > ------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > 4x Rabbat, The Sewer 7 ANI FOR OBF pot Nosferatu:4
> > 1x Antoinette Dubois 4 PRE for mel Daughter :4
> > 1x Nkechi 4 aus for val !Salubri:4
> > 1x Bothwell 3 ani for Gangrel:3
> > 1x Lana Butcher 3 dom for Ventrue:3
> > 1x Mr. Noir 3 for obe Salubri:4
> > 1x Rashiel 3 for val !Salubri:4
> > 1x Rosemarie 3 FOR mel Daughter :4
> > 1x Aimee Laroux 2 for pre Daughter :4
> > 1x Sarah Raines 2 for Gangrel:3
> >
> >
> > Library [90 cards]
> > ------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Action [7]
> > 6x Go Anarch
> > 1x Status Perfectus, The
> >
> > Action Modifier [27]
> > 3x Bear-Baiting
> > 10x Freak Drive
> > 6x Hidden Lurker
> > 8x Mask of a Thousand Faces
>
> About Bear-Baiting... Won't it be more likely then not that your crypt
> is smaller then your Prey's? I would rather have cloaks myself...
> Shouldn't it be more Hidden lurkers then Masks? You are very bleedy,
> and more likely then not, you'll be blocked bleeding... No? And hidden
> lurker works on the undirected actions too.

If so then you just burn a blood (which after playing the card and the
small caps of the vamps more than likely means that you are already
empty so it has no effect).

Your crypt could be smaller than your preys or you could draw a Rabbat
and that might make the difference. Also note that it fails with an
older vampire, not with a vampire of the same age.

I would rather untap my weenied and tap their blocker with a Mask and
put Rabbat into combat, where she can Freak Drive after the blocked
action to be ready to do it again.

Note: as has been posted other places in this thread, you cannot Freak
Drive after a Hidden Lurker.

> > Combat [19]
> > 4x Pulled Fangs
> > 5x Skin of Rock
> > 5x Skin of Steel
> > 5x Soak
>
> I'm guessing that Rabbat can't be an anarch... Since he can't mask an
> Go Anarch action then. But I would think that Groundfighting would be
> good for him. Manuever/press or cancel a card that prevents you to
> strike "Go to Torpor, Biatch!" Only need 1 or 2, just incase.

Rabbat can be an anarch, you just don't want her to be one until you
have decided that you dont' want any more Go Anarchs in play.

> > Equipment [7]
> > 3x Laptop Computer
> > 1x Seal of Veddartha
> > 3x Stolen Police Cruiser
>
> Seal of Veddartha
> Type: Equipment
> Cost: 1 pool
> Unique equipment.
> Only usable by a vampire with capacity above 5. This vampire can bleed
> at +1 bleed as a (D) action. During each of your untap phases, put a
> counter on this card if it has fewer than four counters. The first two
> counters each grant this vampire one level of Dominate [dom]. The next
> two each grant this vampire one level of Fortitude [for]. Remove all
> counters from this card if another minion gains control of it.
>
> One. only Rabbat is big enough to use it but he can't take (D) actions.
> Unless a 4 cap gets a fortitude skill card and another Skill card from
> somebody else?
>
> Two... Umm, can't think of anything else about it... Don't think it
> belongs here.
>
> I think a Aaron's feeding razor is great for this deck. If Rabbat
> isn't doing anything, he'll just hunt for a pool and blood. Or a
> Sargon Fragment... Rabbat would take that action if you need something
> in your hand...

Rabbat and Sargon Fragment is good tech.

Maybe I will pitch the Seal. Good call on the Capacity.


> > Master [17]
> > 1x Anarch Free Press, The
> > 5x Anarch Revolt
> > 3x Blood Doll
> > 1x Dummy Corporation
> > 2x Fortitude
> > 1x Rumor Mill, Tabloid Newspaper, The
> > 4x Tribute to the Master
>
> Heidenburg... Come on, move the bleed retainers/Police
> cruisers//laptop around for more damage.
> Maybe Storm Sewers? Take an action and make sure it's close range...
> Who would block?
> Or every an Anarch Railroad? If Stealth is good... Prem stealth is
> even better.
>
> > Reaction [10]
> > 7x Friend of Mine
> > 3x Wake with Evening's Freshness
> >
> > Retainer [3]
> > 1x J. S. Simmons, Esq.
> > 1x Robert Carter
> > 1x Tasha Morgan
>
> Robert Carter on little guys would have them hunting too much, no?
> Ok, a 4 cap get's Robert Carter... (3 blood) on your next untap, burns
> a blood.. (2 blood) Bleed for 3.
> Unless you are pushing blood on them.

You could push blood and it would be worth it. Heidleburg is
definantly important for this deck. Here is an updated version.

Deck Name : What's behind Rabbat's Mask? 1.2
Author : Norman S. Brown Jr
Description :
An anarch weenie fortitude deck that tools up using permanent plus
bleed retainers. If you are blocked while taking an undirected action,
such as employing or equiping, then you mask of 1000 faces over to
Rabbat. If you are blocked while bleeding then you Hidden Lurker
Rabbat after the resulting combat.


Crypt [13 vampires] Capacity min: 2 max: 7 average: 4.24
------------------------------------------------------------

4x Rabbat, The Sewer 7 ANI FOR OBF pot Nosferatu:4
1x Antoinette Dubois 4 PRE for mel Daughter :4
1x Nkechi 4 aus for val !Salubri:4
1x Bothwell 3 ani for Gangrel:3
1x Lana Butcher 3 dom for Ventrue:3
1x Mr. Noir 3 for obe Salubri:4
1x Rashiel 3 for val !Salubri:4
1x Rosemarie 3 FOR mel Daughter :4
1x Aimee Laroux 2 for pre Daughter :4
1x Sarah Raines 2 for Gangrel:3


Library [90 cards]
------------------------------------------------------------

Action [7]
6x Go Anarch
1x Status Perfectus, The

Action Modifier [26]
3x Bear-Baiting
10x Freak Drive
5x Hidden Lurker
8x Mask of a Thousand Faces

Combat [18]
4x Pulled Fangs
4x Skin of Rock
5x Skin of Steel
5x Soak

Equipment [8]
1x Aaron's Feeding Razor
3x Laptop Computer
1x Sargon Fragment, The
3x Stolen Police Cruiser

Master [18]
1x Anarch Free Press, The
1x Anarch Railroad
5x Anarch Revolt
3x Blood Doll
1x Dummy Corporation
1x Heidelberg Castle, Germany
1x Hospital Food
1x Rumor Mill, Tabloid Newspaper, The
4x Tribute to the Master

Reaction [9]
6x Friend of Mine
3x Wake with Evening's Freshness

Retainer [4]
1x J. S. Simmons, Esq.
1x Owl Companion
1x Robert Carter
1x Tasha Morgan


Crafted with : Anarch Revolt Deck Builder. [Thu Mar 09 11:18:44 2006]

Comments Welcome,
Norman S. Brown, Jr.
XZealot
Archon of the Swamp
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XZealot wrote:
> >
> > About Bear-Baiting... Won't it be more likely then not that your crypt
> > is smaller then your Prey's? I would rather have cloaks myself...
> > Shouldn't it be more Hidden lurkers then Masks? You are very bleedy,
> > and more likely then not, you'll be blocked bleeding... No? And hidden
> > lurker works on the undirected actions too.
>
> If so then you just burn a blood (which after playing the card and the
> small caps of the vamps more than likely means that you are already
> empty so it has no effect).
>
Or, you know, you go to torpor from the unpreventable damage. Still
probably worth it though.


>
> Crypt [13 vampires] Capacity min: 2 max: 7 average: 4.24
> ------------------------------------------------------------
>
> 4x Rabbat, The Sewer 7 ANI FOR OBF pot Nosferatu:4
> 1x Antoinette Dubois 4 PRE for mel Daughter :4
> 1x Nkechi 4 aus for val !Salubri:4
> 1x Bothwell 3 ani for Gangrel:3
> 1x Lana Butcher 3 dom for Ventrue:3
> 1x Mr. Noir 3 for obe Salubri:4
> 1x Rashiel 3 for val !Salubri:4
> 1x Rosemarie 3 FOR mel Daughter :4
> 1x Aimee Laroux 2 for pre Daughter :4
> 1x Sarah Raines 2 for Gangrel:3
>
>

I can understand Nkechi - looking at your opponent's hand is strong.
But why not Wolfgang or Skidmark instead of Antoinette? They can cycle
those Masks when your opponent stops blocking your undirected actions.
Also, with 2 val and 1 obe, maybe adding a Resurrection or two would be
worthwhile?
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