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kulaid871

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Since: Feb 08, 2006
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 4:26 pm
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Deck Name : I see BOMBS in your future...
Author : Kulaid
Description :
Ok... Weenie horde bleed deck with bomb support. Daliyah or Wren
get's a ghoul retainer and a bomb... Hidden lurker after the combat,
and flesh of marble, set-off the bomb and agg poke it. If they have
left then 4 blood you are TOAST! The summonings first gets the ghoul
retainer for Daliyah, then ther other retainers if needed... Al's Army
Apparatus and arms dealers get's bombs in your hand... Set-it up, and
take them down. Wants some advice before I make this deck though...
PLEASE HELP!


Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 1 max: 4 average: 2.92
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3x Daliyah 4 PRO obf Nosferatu:2
2x Wren 4 cel obf pro !Gangrel:2
1x Raziya Samater 3 ani pot Brujah:2
1x Uma Hatch 3 cel pre Brujah:1
1x Angel 2 cel Brujah:1
1x Frederick the Weak 2 pre !Brujah:2
1x Lupo 2 pot Brujah:1
1x Vasilis, The Trait 2 pre Brujah:2
1x Igo the Hungry 1 pre pro Caitiff:1


Library [90 cards]
------------------------------------------------------------

Action [8]
4x Computer Hacking
4x Summoning, The

Action Modifier [14]
4x Change of Target
2x Forgotten Labyrinth
8x Hidden Lurker

Ally [4]
4x Arms Dealer

Combat [32]
8x Claws of the Dead
4x Disguised Weapon
6x Fake Out
8x Flesh of Marble
2x Staredown
4x Taste of Vitae

Equipment [8]
8x Bomb

Master [11]
2x Al's Army Apparatus
5x Blood Doll
1x Dreams of the Sphinx
2x Heidelberg Castle, Germany
1x Secret Library of Alexandria, The

Reaction [7]
1x Delaying Tactics
2x Sonar
4x Wake with Evening's Freshness

Retainer [6]
3x Ghoul Retainer
1x J. S. Simmons, Esq.
1x Jackie Therman
1x Tasha Morgan


Crafted with : Anarch Revolt Deck Builder. [Fri Mar 10 16:23:10 2006]

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quetzalcoatl

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 10:12 pm
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Maybe I'm wrong here, but doesn't the Ghoul Retainer employ the weapon
thus they're the victim of your bomb?

That would mean the Flesh of Marble won't help.

Relevant text ...


Name: Ghoul Retainer
[Jyhad:R2, VTES:R, CE:R2]
Cardtype: Retainer
Cost: 2 pool
Ghoul with 2 life. 1 strength.
Each round of combat during strike resolution, the Ghoul Retainer
inflicts 1 damage or may use a weapon that is not being used by the
employing minion (or another retainer) during that round. This is not a
strike, although it does count as "using" the weapon.
Artist: L. A. Williams, Richard Thomas

Note the line "This is not a strike, although it does count as "using"
the weapon."

Unless that just means that the bomb is burnt.

David

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kulaid871

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 11:35 pm
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kulaid871 RemoveThis @gmail.com wrote:
> Deck Name : I see BOMBS in your future...
> Author : Kulaid
> Description :
> Ok... Weenie horde bleed deck with bomb support. Daliyah or Wren
> get's a ghoul retainer and a bomb... Hidden lurker after the combat,
> and flesh of marble, set-off the bomb and agg poke it. If they have
> less then 4 blood you are TOAST! The summonings first gets the ghoul
> retainer for Daliyah, then ther other retainers if needed... Al's Army
> Apparatus and arms dealers get's bombs in your hand... Set-it up, and
> take them down. Wants some advice before I make this deck though...
> PLEASE HELP!
>
>
> Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 1 max: 4 average: 2.92
> ------------------------------------------------------------
>
> 3x Daliyah 4 PRO obf Nosferatu:2
> 2x Wren 4 cel obf pro !Gangrel:2
> 1x Raziya Samater 3 ani pot Brujah:2
> 1x Uma Hatch 3 cel pre Brujah:1
> 1x Angel 2 cel Brujah:1
> 1x Frederick the Weak 2 pre !Brujah:2
> 1x Lupo 2 pot Brujah:1
> 1x Vasilis, The Trait 2 pre Brujah:2
> 1x Igo the Hungry 1 pre pro Caitiff:1
>
>
> Library [90 cards]
> ------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Action [8]
> 4x Computer Hacking
> 4x Summoning, The
>
> Action Modifier [14]
> 4x Change of Target
> 2x Forgotten Labyrinth
> 8x Hidden Lurker
>
> Ally [4]
> 4x Arms Dealer
>
> Combat [32]
> 8x Claws of the Dead
> 4x Disguised Weapon
> 6x Fake Out
> 8x Flesh of Marble
> 2x Staredown
> 4x Taste of Vitae
>
> Equipment [8]
> 8x Bomb
>
> Master [11]
> 2x Al's Army Apparatus
> 5x Blood Doll
> 1x Dreams of the Sphinx
> 2x Heidelberg Castle, Germany
> 1x Secret Library of Alexandria, The
>
> Reaction [7]
> 1x Delaying Tactics
> 2x Sonar
> 4x Wake with Evening's Freshness
>
> Retainer [6]
> 3x Ghoul Retainer
> 1x J. S. Simmons, Esq.
> 1x Jackie Therman
> 1x Tasha Morgan

Now that I thought about it, I might need to work in Jack of Both Sides
in the deck rather then the 4 computer hacks... Minus 1 blood doll for
a Waste management, and double up on Fredrick (getting rid of Lupo.)
Get bombs back into the deck, or fleshs... Or anything, the deck
should get shuffled alot. No more Raziya Samater, and add Hector Sosa.
Minus 1 change of target for an Aire... (Just incase.)
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Robert Scythe

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 11:53 pm
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kulaid871.RemoveThis@gmail.com wrote:

> Now that I thought about it, I might need to work in Jack of Both Sides
> in the deck rather then the 4 computer hacks... Minus 1 blood doll for
> a Waste management, and double up on Fredrick (getting rid of Lupo.)
> Get bombs back into the deck, or fleshs... Or anything, the deck
> should get shuffled alot. No more Raziya Samater, and add Hector Sosa.
> Minus 1 change of target for an Aire... (Just incase.)

What about a few Pier 13? You will probably need to change the bleed
retainers to Laptops to get the most out of it, though. And with the
Waste Management/Arms Dealer combo you will equip that much quicker
without using actions to do so..
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 9:20 am
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Here's a few tips:

1. 1 less Claws of the Dead, and while you're at it, maybe mix in 1
Bonespur and 1 Wolf Claws to save yourself 1 pool from any Victim of
Habit and for some defense against 'Hold' cards.

You don't need as many Claws since its the end of your combo. You might
play some without your bomb on, but with 8 in the deck you're more
likely to discard 1 to cycle to your Ghoul retainer. 7 is plenty.

2. The Brujah angle is beside the point. Just use 2 vast wealth and get
more vamps with protean. Use 1 copy of Henry Taylor, but make it clear
he's not there to play Twister.

3. Staredown should be Dodge. You dont have anyone with PRE or any
skill cards...
You also dont have any combat cards you'd need to draw into with your
vamps who do have [pre] - except if Igo dodges in first round and Flesh
of Marbles in second under press combat.

4. Add another Delaying Tactics?

5. Add 2 Sport Bikes if you go with Pier 13. Othewise make 1 Mr.
Winthrop or
Aranthebes.

6. Get an Unlicenced Taxicab to advance your Retainer getting cause.
Now that you have 3 vehicles - get a Repo Man - since he can serve the
same disposable blocking function as the Arms Dealer I recommended you
get rid of.

7. Could you use Seattle Committee, Galarics Legacy, Anarch Revolt and
anarch combat (like Groundfighting) instead of those fakeouts? Or is
that un-needed complication?
If so, maybe a Big Game and a Bum's Rush to target your prey's would-be
ready anarchs?
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 9:22 am
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8. Add a Fame.

9. If you have Arms Dealers and Repo-men a Memories of Mortality on
your Predator's key vamp (pref. bruise/bleed) could be incredibly
funny, brilliant, and frustrating.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 9:30 am
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Those Fake-Outs are still bugging me.

What if you used:

+2x Disguised Weapon
1x Flash Grenade
2x White Phosphorous Grenade
1x Grenade

With more Disguised Weapons you're more likely to get your bombs on,
and the free card slots give you some cheaper alternatives if your
opponent Manuevers a lot.

(Note: Daliyah could throw the White Phosphorous while Ghoul Retainer
sets off the bomb. Smokin'...)



P.p.p.p.p.p.p.p.p.p.s: Stick in NSA Trio, as combat ends is still
annoying. Grats on overcoming Immortal Grapple though.
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