A Debt Repaid

Hmmm, it sez 'ere:

"* Steam Tunnel 1 *

This tunnel is hidden at the bottom of the elevator shaft..."

I can see the entrance to the tunnel but it's not open. Anyone know how I
can open it?

JJ (UK)
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Hmmm, it sez 'ere:

"* Steam Tunnel 1 *

This tunnel is hidden at the bottom of the elevator shaft..."

I can see the entrance to the tunnel but it's not open. Anyone know how I
can open it?

JJ (UK)
 >> Stay informed about: A Debt Repaid 

Hmmm, it sez 'ere:

"* Steam Tunnel 1 *

This tunnel is hidden at the bottom of the elevator shaft..."

I can see the entrance to the tunnel but it's not open. Anyone know how I
can open it?

JJ (UK)
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Hmmm, it sez 'ere:

"* Steam Tunnel 1 *

This tunnel is hidden at the bottom of the elevator shaft..."

I can see the entrance to the tunnel but it's not open. Anyone know how I
can open it?

JJ (UK)
 >> Stay informed about: A Debt Repaid 

Hmmm, it sez 'ere:

"* Steam Tunnel 1 *

This tunnel is hidden at the bottom of the elevator shaft..."

I can see the entrance to the tunnel but it's not open. Anyone know how I
can open it?

JJ (UK)
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Nightwalker wrote:

>> Nightwalker goes out of her way to give you a vague answer to Thief
>>questions. Oh sure it is correct. Like if you need a key to finish a
>>mission her hint is look on the floor of the cave. Even if the cave is so
>>big it takes twenty minutes of head down searching. What a gal!
>
>
> What exactly did I do to deserve that sort of sarcasm?? I go out of my way
> to answer every question I can for people who are stuck on something and
> have done for years.
>
> Nightwalker
Don't pick on Nightwalker. Those are fighting words if you do. She has
helped me and others on countless occasions.
Nightwalker, there are plenty of people on your side, so don't let one
bad apple discourage you.
Albert
Albert
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"Albert Conklin" wrote:

> Nightwalker wrote:
>
>>> Nightwalker goes out of her way to give you a vague answer to Thief
>>> questions. Oh sure it is correct. Like if you need a key to finish a
>>> mission her hint is look on the floor of the cave. Even if the cave is
>>> so big it takes twenty minutes of head down searching. What a gal!
>>
>>
>> What exactly did I do to deserve that sort of sarcasm?? I go out of my
>> way to answer every question I can for people who are stuck on something
>> and have done for years.
>>
>> Nightwalker
> Don't pick on Nightwalker. Those are fighting words if you do. She has
> helped me and others on countless occasions.
> Nightwalker, there are plenty of people on your side, so don't let one
> bad apple discourage you.



She has assisted me also. Wasn't trying to appear rude. Just that several
times in her walkthrus and answers they are kinda vague. If someone asks how
to open a door she will reply search the room for a hidden switch instead of
saying search behind the bed for a hidden switch. After all the switch could
be on the ceiling.


> Albert
> Albert
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Since the main joy of Thief, for most of us, is exploring and discovering
things for ourselves, I will try to nudge someone in the right direction
first unless asked for a total spoiler. If that's not enough, then I'll give
more detail. The walkthroughs are generally pretty specific as to location
of keys, switches and important items.

Your post made it sound like you thought I was just pretending to know where
things are which was rather disturbing since I try to make very sure that my
answers are correct, even if I have to replay part or even all of a mission
to check my facts.

Nightwalker

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>
> "Albert Conklin" wrote:
>
>> Nightwalker wrote:
>>
>>>> Nightwalker goes out of her way to give you a vague answer to Thief
>>>> questions. Oh sure it is correct. Like if you need a key to finish a
>>>> mission her hint is look on the floor of the cave. Even if the cave is
>>>> so big it takes twenty minutes of head down searching. What a gal!
>>>
>>>
>>> What exactly did I do to deserve that sort of sarcasm?? I go out of my
>>> way to answer every question I can for people who are stuck on something
>>> and have done for years.
>>>
>>> Nightwalker
>> Don't pick on Nightwalker. Those are fighting words if you do. She has
>> helped me and others on countless occasions.
>> Nightwalker, there are plenty of people on your side, so don't let one
>> bad apple discourage you.
>
>
>
> She has assisted me also. Wasn't trying to appear rude. Just that
> several times in her walkthrus and answers they are kinda vague. If
> someone asks how to open a door she will reply search the room for a
> hidden switch instead of saying search behind the bed for a hidden switch.
> After all the switch could be on the ceiling.
>
>
>> Albert
>> Albert
>
>
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"Nightwalker" wrote:

> Since the main joy of Thief, for most of us, is exploring and discovering
> things for ourselves, I will try to nudge someone in the right direction
> first unless asked for a total spoiler. If that's not enough, then I'll
> give more detail. The walkthroughs are generally pretty specific as to
> location of keys, switches and important items.
>
> Your post made it sound like you thought I was just pretending to know
> where things are which was rather disturbing since I try to make very sure
> that my answers are correct, even if I have to replay part or even all of
> a mission to check my facts.


At the point of asking or looking for clues most times the player is
completely frustrated. Unless he/she gets the exact answer right away...
aarrrrgghhhh! I will state that you have been the best guide ever of all
Thief guides. Thanks for letting me vent a little madam.



> Nightwalker
>
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> "reborn rolla" <zzrollazz.TakeThisOut@King2.com> wrote in message
> news:B_sah.376133$1T2.355860@pd7urf2no...
>>
>> "Albert Conklin" wrote:
>>
>>> Nightwalker wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Nightwalker goes out of her way to give you a vague answer to Thief
>>>>> questions. Oh sure it is correct. Like if you need a key to finish a
>>>>> mission her hint is look on the floor of the cave. Even if the cave is
>>>>> so big it takes twenty minutes of head down searching. What a gal!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What exactly did I do to deserve that sort of sarcasm?? I go out of my
>>>> way to answer every question I can for people who are stuck on
>>>> something and have done for years.
>>>>
>>>> Nightwalker
>>> Don't pick on Nightwalker. Those are fighting words if you do. She has
>>> helped me and others on countless occasions.
>>> Nightwalker, there are plenty of people on your side, so don't let one
>>> bad apple discourage you.
>>
>>
>>
>> She has assisted me also. Wasn't trying to appear rude. Just that
>> several times in her walkthrus and answers they are kinda vague. If
>> someone asks how to open a door she will reply search the room for a
>> hidden switch instead of saying search behind the bed for a hidden
>> switch. After all the switch could be on the ceiling.
>>
>>
>>> Albert
>>> Albert
>>
>>
>
>
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"JJ (UK)" wrote:

> Bless you.
>
> JJ (UK)



Nightwalker goes out of her way to give you a vague answer to Thief
questions. Oh sure it is correct. Like if you need a key to finish a mission
her hint is look on the floor of the cave. Even if the cave is so big it
takes twenty minutes of head down searching. What a gal!



> "Nightwalker" <nightwalkerfmleavemealone.TakeThisOut@shaw.ca> wrote in message
> news:H3G8h.349515$R63.123583@pd7urf1no...
>> This is a very complex mission and it's not one of my favourites so I
> can't
>> really help much with it. Jason Otto, the author, wrote a walkthrough
> though
>> so perhaps you could check through it to find out what you need to do
> next.
>> You can find it here:
>> http://www.jasonotto.net/missions/debt/adebtrepaidwalkthrough.txt
>>
>> Nightwalker
>>
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>> "JJ (UK)" <oh.please.TakeThisOut@spam.com> wrote in message
>> news:VGm8h.17149$bC3.12149@newsfe7-win.ntli.net...
>> > Well, Basso's useless isn't he?
>> >
>> > I've got in the building and picked up some MORE objectives but all
> Basso
>> > can do is half unlock some doors.
>> >
>> > So, I'm stuck. HELP, PLEASE!
>> >
>> > JJ (UK)
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
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> Nightwalker goes out of her way to give you a vague answer to Thief
> questions. Oh sure it is correct. Like if you need a key to finish a
> mission her hint is look on the floor of the cave. Even if the cave is so
> big it takes twenty minutes of head down searching. What a gal!

What exactly did I do to deserve that sort of sarcasm?? I go out of my way
to answer every question I can for people who are stuck on something and
have done for years.

Nightwalker
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>
>
>
>> "Nightwalker" <nightwalkerfmleavemealone.TakeThisOut@shaw.ca> wrote in message
>> news:H3G8h.349515$R63.123583@pd7urf1no...
>>> This is a very complex mission and it's not one of my favourites so I
>> can't
>>> really help much with it. Jason Otto, the author, wrote a walkthrough
>> though
>>> so perhaps you could check through it to find out what you need to do
>> next.
>>> You can find it here:
>>> http://www.jasonotto.net/missions/debt/adebtrepaidwalkthrough.txt
>>>
>>> Nightwalker
>>>
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>>> Remove "fmleavemealone" from email address when replying
>>>
>>>
>>> "JJ (UK)" <oh.please.TakeThisOut@spam.com> wrote in message
>>> news:VGm8h.17149$bC3.12149@newsfe7-win.ntli.net...
>>> > Well, Basso's useless isn't he?
>>> >
>>> > I've got in the building and picked up some MORE objectives but all
>> Basso
>>> > can do is half unlock some doors.
>>> >
>>> > So, I'm stuck. HELP, PLEASE!
>>> >
>>> > JJ (UK)
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
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reborn rolla wrote:

At the point of asking or looking for clues most times the player is
> completely frustrated. Unless he/she gets the exact answer right away...
> aarrrrgghhhh! I will state that you have been the best guide ever of all
> Thief guides. Thanks for letting me vent a little madam.
>

Reborn Rolla,
I think that is where the confusion is. There are asking for clues and
there are flat out spoilers. A clue would be which room or which area. A
spoiler would be northwest corner, behind 2nd bush on the left, etc.
Albert
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"Albert Conklin" wrote:

> reborn rolla wrote:
>
> At the point of asking or looking for clues most times the player is
>> completely frustrated. Unless he/she gets the exact answer right away...
>> aarrrrgghhhh! I will state that you have been the best guide ever of all
>> Thief guides. Thanks for letting me vent a little madam.
>>
>
> Reborn Rolla,
> I think that is where the confusion is. There are asking for clues and
> there are flat out spoilers. A clue would be which room or which area. A
> spoiler would be northwest corner, behind 2nd bush on the left, etc.



Thanks buddy. I realize that now. There seems to be a fad among fan
mission makers to start missions with no weapons. You have to search for
your blackjack and sword etc. This is like the fad of having to read 46
scrolls that are multi-pages.



> Albert
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