Debonding FW resin, Elysians blatant leech request [40K][m..

Myrmidon wrote:
> I've got a product
> called Z-7 Debonder that claims 'will not craze most plastics'.

Hehehehe...D'OH! I remember posting that back in the summer almost
verbatim. I've been using CSC so much lately for stripping/debonding
metals I totally forgot I even had it. Yes, the builder definitely used
superglue as there's plenty of fuming action (

> > Secondly, the "leech request(s)":
> >
> > WTF is the lascutter for that some of the Elysian models carry (ya, a
> > laser that's for cutting) what are the stats/rules for it? Just a fancy
> > meltagun? Just oddly curious.
> >
> IIRC they're designed for cutting through bulkheads. If I'm not
> mistaken, the lascutter has speical rules for use with the 'interior
> fighting' stuff Forgeworld did when they came out with their fancy
> modular Imperial Outpost Terrain (about the same time as the Elysian
> models came out.) But then, these are the folks who's FAQ for their
> Tyranid book directly contradicts the core rules FAQ for the Nids. Go
> figure.

Reason number two why I'd rather spend money on the FW models and note
the books....right behind the insane price tag. However, on a related
note, I did pick up IA 2 on eBay for the inquisition/valkyrie stuff,
contact me via e-mail if you want me to send it your way for "binary
codification", wink wink.

> > Are Elysian units allowed in a regular IG/INQ army as allies or
> > something, or just a seperate army on it's own? I've got the basic
> > infantry squad with a grenade launcher and a demo charge...a completely
> > worthless combo in a regular IG army, but if they can be carried as an
> > elites choice or something, I have something to work with without
> > conversions/extra purchases.
>
> I know the Elysians have their own rules as a drop army for IG, but
> hopefully Spack will pop in and reply as he's generally in the know on
> the I.A. / Forgeworld stuff.

Oh Spack, king of gingers, terrible to behold...lend me your knowledge.

> Hope that helps, and let me know if I need to mail you a package
> of debonder goodness,

I appreciate the offer Myr!

In article <1164517827.902620.77290.TakeThisOut@h54g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
donovan_borman.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com says...
> Ok first off, I picked some Elysians up on eBay...big mistake maybe. I
> think the guy putting them together was afflicted with Parkinson's
> disease AND wearing mittens at the time of assembly. Also, I think he
> studied apes at the zoo for posing ideas! Anyone with experience
> debonding FW/resin stuff without damaging the model?

First up - what were they glued together with? Since we're
talking resin, I wouldn't imagine that it was done with ordinary model
cement or plastic weld. I'm not sure what to tell you if they were
glued together with epoxy. (Lets hope they weren't done with that.)

If they were done with some form of cynoacrylate (super) glue, and
you're planning to strip these things - then Castrol Super Clean is the
stripper of choice as it tends to break down cynoacrylate glue bonds
while soaking. That being said, your best bet is a debonder
specifically formulated for removing super glue. I've got a product
called Z-7 Debonder that claims 'will not craze most plastics'. If you
don't have access to a local supply (I get mine from a train shop down
the street), or have to drive all over B.F.E. to get it, let me know and
I'll mail you a bottle - priority mail if you need it a.s.a.p.

>
> Secondly, the "leech request(s)":
>
> WTF is the lascutter for that some of the Elysian models carry (ya, a
> laser that's for cutting) what are the stats/rules for it? Just a fancy
> meltagun? Just oddly curious.
>
IIRC they're designed for cutting through bulkheads. If I'm not
mistaken, the lascutter has speical rules for use with the 'interior
fighting' stuff Forgeworld did when they came out with their fancy
modular Imperial Outpost Terrain (about the same time as the Elysian
models came out.) But then, these are the folks who's FAQ for their
Tyranid book directly contradicts the core rules FAQ for the Nids. Go
figure.

> Are Elysian units allowed in a regular IG/INQ army as allies or
> something, or just a seperate army on it's own? I've got the basic
> infantry squad with a grenade launcher and a demo charge...a completely
> worthless combo in a regular IG army, but if they can be carried as an
> elites choice or something, I have something to work with without
> conversions/extra purchases.

I know the Elysians have their own rules as a drop army for IG, but
hopefully Spack will pop in and reply as he's generally in the know on
the I.A. / Forgeworld stuff.


Hope that helps, and let me know if I need to mail you a package
of debonder goodness,

Myr



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