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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 2:38 pm
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Here's my attempt at a Khazar Diary deck. I am probably trying to do
too much at once, trying to use too many of the new cards from LotN.
Once I get a chance to play it a couple times, I'll trim what doesn't
work.
Crypt
2x Carmine Giovanni 10 ani DOM NEC POT pre PRO 2 votes. Whenever a
wraith enters play, that wraith gains 1 additional life from the blood
bank. Carmine may tap to give an acting ally +1 stealth.
2x Giovanni del Georgio 8 DOM NEC POT PRO Del Georgio may remove two
copies of the same card in your prey's ash heap from the game to gain
3 blood as a +1 stealth hunt action.
2x Paolo Sardenzo 7 dom NEC POT pro THA Whenever a wraith enters play,
Paolo gains 1 blood. Giovanni get +1 intercept when attempting to
block Paolo.
2x Kay Polerno 4 dom nec pro
2x Almodo Giovanni 3 dom pot
2x Cristobal Ghiberti 2 nec
Library
Master
3x Vessel
4x Blood Doll
1x Powerbase: Cape Town
2x Charisma
1x Channel 10
1x Jake Washington
Event
3x The Unmasking
1x FBI Special Affairs Division
Action
8x Khazar's Diary, Endless Nights
5x Soul Feasting
4x Compel the Spirit
4x Dual Form
6x Govern the Unaligned
Combat
7x Earth Meld
5x Form of Mist
Ally
1x Ambrosius, the Ferryman
1x Brigitte Gauber
1x Carlton Van Wyck, Hunter
1x Felix "Fix" Hessian
1x Gregory Winter
1x Leonardo, the Mortician
1x Mylan Horseed
1x Repo Man
1x Tye Cooper
1x Vagabond Mystic
Retainer
1x Masquer
Action Modifier
2x Earth Control
3x Empowering the Puppet King
Reaction
6x Deflection
4x On the Qui Vive
4x Fillip
Combo
2x Breath of Thanatos
3x Spiritual Divination
I'm most interested to find out if I can make good use out of the 5
Soul Feasting that I own. I figure I can eat one of my own wraiths
(hopefully one near death) to get back a nice bit of blood and add a
diary counter or end game I can eat one of my created wraiths for some
nice blood gain and then have another Giovanni put that wraith back
into play. One day I might be so lucky that someone else has a wraith
in play that I can burn.
Later,
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 6:49 pm
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On 5 Lut, 23:38, Rehlow <newsgr... RemoveThis @rehlow.com> wrote:
> Here's my attempt at a Khazar Diary deck. I am probably trying to do
> too much at once, trying to use too many of the new cards from LotN.
> Once I get a chance to play it a couple times, I'll trim what doesn't
> work.
>
> Crypt
>
> 2x Carmine Giovanni 10 ani DOM NEC POT pre PRO 2 votes. Whenever a
> wraith enters play, that wraith gains 1 additional life from the blood
> bank. Carmine may tap to give an acting ally +1 stealth.
>
> 2x Giovanni del Georgio 8 DOM NEC POT PRO Del Georgio may remove two
> copies of the same card in your prey's ash heap from the game to gain
> 3 blood as a +1 stealth hunt action.
>
> 2x Paolo Sardenzo 7 dom NEC POT pro THA Whenever a wraith enters play,
> Paolo gains 1 blood. Giovanni get +1 intercept when attempting to
> block Paolo.
>
> 2x Kay Polerno 4 dom nec pro
>
> 2x Almodo Giovanni 3 dom pot
>
> 2x Cristobal Ghiberti 2 nec
>
> Library
>
> Master
> 3x Vessel
> 4x Blood Doll
> 1x Powerbase: Cape Town
> 2x Charisma
> 1x Channel 10
> 1x Jake Washington
>
> Event
> 3x The Unmasking
> 1x FBI Special Affairs Division
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> Action
> 8x Khazar's Diary, Endless Nights
> 5x Soul Feasting
> 4x Compel the Spirit
> 4x Dual Form
> 6x Govern the Unaligned
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> Combat
> 7x Earth Meld
> 5x Form of Mist
>
> Ally
> 1x Ambrosius, the Ferryman
> 1x Brigitte Gauber
> 1x Carlton Van Wyck, Hunter
> 1x Felix "Fix" Hessian
> 1x Gregory Winter
> 1x Leonardo, the Mortician
> 1x Mylan Horseed
> 1x Repo Man
> 1x Tye Cooper
> 1x Vagabond Mystic
>
> Retainer
> 1x Masquer
>
> Action Modifier
> 2x Earth Control
> 3x Empowering the Puppet King
>
> Reaction
> 6x Deflection
> 4x On the Qui Vive
> 4x Fillip
>
> Combo
> 2x Breath of Thanatos
> 3x Spiritual Divination
>
> I'm most interested to find out if I can make good use out of the 5
> Soul Feasting that I own. I figure I can eat one of my own wraiths
> (hopefully one near death) to get back a nice bit of blood and add a
> diary counter or end game I can eat one of my created wraiths for some
> nice blood gain and then have another Giovanni put that wraith back
> into play. One day I might be so lucky that someone else has a wraith
> in play that I can burn.
>
> Later,
> ~Rehlow
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 1:05 pm
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Rehlow <newsgroup RemoveThis @rehlow.com> wrote:
> Master
> 3x Vessel
> 4x Blood Doll
> 1x Powerbase: Cape Town
> 2x Charisma
> 1x Channel 10
> 1x Jake Washington
>
> Event
> 3x The Unmasking
> 1x FBI Special Affairs Division
-1 Unmasking, +1 Fortschritt Library
Kevin M., Prince of Las Vegas
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 10:38 am
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On Feb 7, 2:22 am, Salem <salem_christ.... DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
> Kevin M. wrote:
> > Rehlow <newsgr... DeleteThis @rehlow.com> wrote:
> >> Master
> >> 3x Vessel
> >> 4x Blood Doll
> >> 1x Powerbase: Cape Town
> >> 2x Charisma
> >> 1x Channel 10
> >> 1x Jake Washington
>
> >> Event
> >> 3x The Unmasking
> >> 1x FBI Special Affairs Division
>
> > -1 Unmasking, +1 Fortschritt Library
>
> That doesn't even begin to make sense.
>
> Say card X is going to be either Fort or Unmask.
>
> Scenario 1:
> You draw card X before your turn.
>
> If Fort, you lose your master phase action to draw one of the other
> unmaskings.
>
The deck probably has unused master phases available with the low
number of masters (and a few being trifles).
> which then sits in your hand until your discard phase.
>
You draw to replace Fort and then discard down to your hand size, so
minor cycling and you are also pulling a card out of your deck.
> If it was Unmasking, it just sits in your hand till your discard phase
> and you don't lose your master phase action.
>
> Scenario 2:
> Say you draw card X after you've used your master phase.
>
> If Fort, then it sits in your hand a whole turn around the table, until
> you can play it as per scenario 1.
>
Yeah, that part would be bad.
> If unmasking, you just play it during your discard phase.
>
> Fort only finds Gehenna events, it won't allow you to search for FBI.
>
Maybe Kevin forgot FBI is a Government event or that Fort only gets
Gehenna events.
> Or is there something I am missing here?
Nope. Its a very minor change that will probably have little impact. I
agree with Kevin's change on a cardflow/drawing statistics point of
view though.
Later,
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 1:33 pm
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Rehlow <newsgroup RemoveThis @rehlow.com> wrote:
> Salem <salem_christ.... RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Kevin M. wrote:
>> > -1 Unmasking, +1 Fortschritt Library
>>
>> That doesn't even begin to make sense.
[some of Salem's points snipped]
>> Fort only finds Gehenna events, it won't allow you to search for FBI.
This I know, yes.
> Maybe Kevin forgot FBI is a Government event or that Fort only gets
> Gehenna events.
See above.
> Nope. Its a very minor change that will probably have little impact. I
> agree with Kevin's change on a cardflow/drawing statistics point of
> view though.
That is why I said it. =)
Kevin M., Prince of Las Vegas
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you shall never be in peril." -- Sun Tzu, *The Art of War*
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 4:54 pm
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On 7 Lut, 23:07, James Coupe <ja... DeleteThis @zephyr.org.uk> wrote:
> In message <yRKqj.24236$ov5....@newsfe15.phx>, Kevin M.
>
> <youw... DeleteThis @imaspammer.org> writes:
> >Scenario 3:
> >Say that your copies of Unmasking are very deep in your deck. FortLib
> >allows you to go get one. Right now.
>
> If you have 3 Unmaskings, or 2 Unmaskings and a Fortschritt, you're in
> exactly the same position regarding how deep they are or aren't in the
> deck. Imagine that your Fortschritt is a proxy for a copy of the
> Unmasking that you don't own, and things become clearer.
>
> --
> James Coupe
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> EBD690ECD7A1FB457CA2 NO-ONE IS SCREAMING.
> 13D7E668C3695D623D5D THANK YOU FOR YOUR COOPERATION.
not this way.
if you search for the unmasking you have one less card in your library
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 7:22 pm
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Kevin M. wrote:
> Rehlow <newsgroup DeleteThis @rehlow.com> wrote:
>> Master
>> 3x Vessel
>> 4x Blood Doll
>> 1x Powerbase: Cape Town
>> 2x Charisma
>> 1x Channel 10
>> 1x Jake Washington
>>
>> Event
>> 3x The Unmasking
>> 1x FBI Special Affairs Division
>
> -1 Unmasking, +1 Fortschritt Library
That doesn't even begin to make sense.
Say card X is going to be either Fort or Unmask.
Scenario 1:
You draw card X before your turn.
If Fort, you lose your master phase action to draw one of the other
unmaskings.
which then sits in your hand until your discard phase.
If it was Unmasking, it just sits in your hand till your discard phase
and you don't lose your master phase action.
Scenario 2:
Say you draw card X after you've used your master phase.
If Fort, then it sits in your hand a whole turn around the table, until
you can play it as per scenario 1.
If unmasking, you just play it during your discard phase.
Fort only finds Gehenna events, it won't allow you to search for FBI.
Or is there something I am missing here?
--
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 7:22 pm
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Salem <salem_christ.geo.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Kevin M. wrote:
[Rehlow's deck snipped]
>> -1 Unmasking, +1 Fortschritt Library
>
> That doesn't even begin to make sense.
>
> Say card X is going to be either Fort or Unmask.
>
> Scenario 1:
> You draw card X before your turn.
>
> If Fort, you lose your master phase action to draw one
> of the other unmaskings.
>
> which then sits in your hand until your discard phase.
>
> If it was Unmasking, it just sits in your hand till your discard
> phase and you don't lose your master phase action.
>
> Scenario 2:
> Say you draw card X after you've used your master phase.
>
> If Fort, then it sits in your hand a whole turn around the table,
> until you can play it as per scenario 1.
>
> If unmasking, you just play it during your discard phase.
Scenario 3:
Say that your copies of Unmasking are very deep in your deck. FortLib
allows you to go get one. Right now.
Is there something about the math that I'm missing, or would you rather
not use cards to search your library, arguably the most powerful effect in
CCGs?
Kevin M., Prince of Las Vegas
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you shall never be in peril." -- Sun Tzu, *The Art of War*
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 10:07 pm
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In message <yRKqj.24236$ov5.486@newsfe15.phx>, Kevin M.
<youwish RemoveThis @imaspammer.org> writes:
>Scenario 3:
>Say that your copies of Unmasking are very deep in your deck. FortLib
>allows you to go get one. Right now.
If you have 3 Unmaskings, or 2 Unmaskings and a Fortschritt, you're in
exactly the same position regarding how deep they are or aren't in the
deck. Imagine that your Fortschritt is a proxy for a copy of the
Unmasking that you don't own, and things become clearer.
--
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 8:10 am
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on the "slight advantage effects" way, more advantages of 2 copies of
unmasking + 1 copy of FL v/s 3 copies of unmasking:
1.- if you have unmasking in play and you draw another unmasking, its
a 100% dead card.
2.- if you draw FL, are few cards that enable to use FL as "discard a
master card" and could, eventually, give you a little advantage:
opponent Chas Giovanni Tello or Jacob, The Glitch.
steal Brothers Grimm.
the topic "In the category of obscure specials" cause me a new
approach to the game
On 8 feb, 07:17, Salem <salem_christ.... RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
> Kevin M. wrote:
> > Scenario 3:
> > Say that your copies of Unmasking are very deep in your deck. FortLib
> > allows you to go get one. Right now.
>
> > Is there something about the math that I'm missing,
>
> yup.
>
> > or would you rather
> > not use cards to search your library, arguably the most powerful effect in
> > CCGs?
>
> Search is good, I don't dispute that.
>
> but to help clarify my point that James also helped clarify....
>
> Cards A, B and C are at the bottom of your deck.
>
> In one version of your deck, A, B and C are all Unmaskings. This is not
> cool. So searching tech would be handy.
>
> So you swap card C for a Fortschritt for next game.
>
> You do exactly the same shuffle, and cards A, B and C are all at the
> bottom of your deck. Card C being Fortschritt doesn't really make a
> difference, since it is still at the bottom of your deck.
>
> Now, say C is still a Fortschritt. You shuffle differently and A and B
> are at the bottom of your deck, but C is in your opening hand. Woo-hoo!.
> However, if you'd left your deck like your original build, C is an
> Unmasking, not a Fortschritt, so you can still play it turn one since
> it's in your hand, AND if you have some other master card in hand, you
> can play that, too!
>
> Now if A B and C are all Unmaskings, and you _add_ another card, D,
> which is a Fortschritt, this improves things. However, not as much as
> adding just another Unmasking would, by exactly the same reasoning as
> before.
>
> BUT, if you're playing with several _different_ gehenna events, then
> Fortschritt becomes an extra copy of _whichever one you haven't played
> yet_, which is where it becomes particularly useful.
>
> Or, you know, if you only physically own 2 Unmaskings, then adding a 3rd
> card that's Fortschritt will have to do.
>
> So, to sum up, searching effects, when they have a choice of what to
> search for, are Good. But if all you can ever search for is one
> particular thing, then that searching effect may as well be just another
> copy of the thing you're searching for.
>
> --
> salem
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 1:49 pm
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AcheronNightStalker RemoveThis @gmail.com wrote:
> On 7 Lut, 23:07, James Coupe <ja... RemoveThis @zephyr.org.uk> wrote:
>> In message <yRKqj.24236$ov5....@newsfe15.phx>, Kevin M.
>>
>> <youw... RemoveThis @imaspammer.org> writes:
>> >Scenario 3:
>> >Say that your copies of Unmasking are very deep in your deck. FortLib
>> >allows you to go get one. Right now.
>>
>> If you have 3 Unmaskings, or 2 Unmaskings and a Fortschritt, you're in
>> exactly the same position regarding how deep they are or aren't in the
>> deck. Imagine that your Fortschritt is a proxy for a copy of the
>> Unmasking that you don't own, and things become clearer.
>>
>> --
>> James Coupe
>> PGP Key: 0x5D623D5D YOU ARE IN ERROR.
>> EBD690ECD7A1FB457CA2 NO-ONE IS SCREAMING.
>> 13D7E668C3695D623D5D THANK YOU FOR YOUR COOPERATION.
>
> not this way.
>
> if you search for the unmasking you have one less card in your library
> - it means slightly less chance to have hand jam.
yeah slightly less chance to hand jam _later_, because you have to hold
on to a master card _now_. AND use a master phase action.
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 1:49 pm
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Kevin M. wrote:
> Scenario 3:
> Say that your copies of Unmasking are very deep in your deck. FortLib
> allows you to go get one. Right now.
>
> Is there something about the math that I'm missing,
yup.
> or would you rather
> not use cards to search your library, arguably the most powerful effect in
> CCGs?
Search is good, I don't dispute that.
but to help clarify my point that James also helped clarify....
Cards A, B and C are at the bottom of your deck.
In one version of your deck, A, B and C are all Unmaskings. This is not
cool. So searching tech would be handy.
So you swap card C for a Fortschritt for next game.
You do exactly the same shuffle, and cards A, B and C are all at the
bottom of your deck. Card C being Fortschritt doesn't really make a
difference, since it is still at the bottom of your deck.
Now, say C is still a Fortschritt. You shuffle differently and A and B
are at the bottom of your deck, but C is in your opening hand. Woo-hoo!.
However, if you'd left your deck like your original build, C is an
Unmasking, not a Fortschritt, so you can still play it turn one since
it's in your hand, AND if you have some other master card in hand, you
can play that, too!
Now if A B and C are all Unmaskings, and you _add_ another card, D,
which is a Fortschritt, this improves things. However, not as much as
adding just another Unmasking would, by exactly the same reasoning as
before.
BUT, if you're playing with several _different_ gehenna events, then
Fortschritt becomes an extra copy of _whichever one you haven't played
yet_, which is where it becomes particularly useful.
Or, you know, if you only physically own 2 Unmaskings, then adding a 3rd
card that's Fortschritt will have to do.
So, to sum up, searching effects, when they have a choice of what to
search for, are Good. But if all you can ever search for is one
particular thing, then that searching effect may as well be just another
copy of the thing you're searching for.
--
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 4:10 pm
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In article <pdcxp7zSE4qHFwyJ RemoveThis @gratiano.zephyr.org.uk>,
James Coupe <james RemoveThis @zephyr.org.uk> wrote:
> If you have 3 Unmaskings, or 2 Unmaskings and a Fortschritt, you're in
> exactly the same position regarding how deep they are or aren't in the
> deck. Imagine that your Fortschritt is a proxy for a copy of the
> Unmasking that you don't own, and things become clearer.
This is completely correct. Given the choice between:
A) 3x Unmaskening
or
B) 2x Unmaskening and 1x Fortran
I'd always go with B. As you have the same chance of drawing the card
you need, but when you play Fortran to get Unmaskening, you are pulling
an extra dead card out of your deck (i.e. play Unmaskening when you have
3, you still have 2 dead draws in your deck; play Fortran to get
Unmaskening and play it, you only have 1 dead draw left in your deck.
Yeah, yeah, I know. Fortran can get suddened...)
Peter D Bakija
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In message <pdb6-B4D151.16100308022008.DeleteThis@news-server.stny.rr.com>, Peter D
Bakija <pdb6.DeleteThis@lightlink.com> writes:
>(i.e. play Unmaskening when you have
>3, you still have 2 dead draws in your deck; play Fortran to get
>Unmaskening and play it, you only have 1 dead draw left in your deck.
>Yeah, yeah, I know. Fortran can get suddened...)
As Salem says, it's not 100% clear cut, in my mind - in the general
case, anyway. Giving up the ability to play, for example, Minion Tap
that turn is not the nicest thing in the world.
For a specific deck, it may be a reasonable compromise, but I can't say
that would be true for every such deck.
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 1:18 pm
Post subject: Re: (DECK) Wraith Diary [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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Peter D Bakija wrote:
> In article <pdcxp7zSE4qHFwyJ DeleteThis @gratiano.zephyr.org.uk>,
> James Coupe <james DeleteThis @zephyr.org.uk> wrote:
>> If you have 3 Unmaskings, or 2 Unmaskings and a Fortschritt, you're in
>> exactly the same position regarding how deep they are or aren't in the
>> deck. Imagine that your Fortschritt is a proxy for a copy of the
>> Unmasking that you don't own, and things become clearer.
>
> This is completely correct. Given the choice between:
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> A) 3x Unmaskening
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> or
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> B) 2x Unmaskening and 1x Fortran
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> I'd always go with B. As you have the same chance of drawing the card
> you need, but when you play Fortran to get Unmaskening, you are pulling
> an extra dead card out of your deck (i.e. play Unmaskening when you have
> 3, you still have 2 dead draws in your deck; play Fortran to get
> Unmaskening and play it, you only have 1 dead draw left in your deck.
> Yeah, yeah, I know. Fortran can get suddened...)
Get an Unmaskening first, you then have 2 dead draws in your deck. One
of which you can use up a valuable master phase action to remove the
other, but still. Maybe it should be a barrens instead?
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