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Murg

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Since: Jan 12, 2008
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 5:00 pm
Post subject: New to Crawl, Help!
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I'm new to Stone Soup Crawl (though I've played Nethack and ADOM
before this).

I have a bunch of newbie questions.

Sometimes when I find a treasure vault all the treasure attacks me!
And my god (apparently) doesn't reward me for killing the treasure. Is
there any way to get the treasure instead of killing it?

Xom...does this god exist purely as an optional additional challenge?
He sent me to the Abyss! Not cool.

If I'm playing a (draconian) melee monk should I be wearing heavy
armor (I found some dragon hide)?

I was playing a Spriggan assassin and if I stabbed anything it was
pretty much an instant-kill. But despite having high stealth most
monsters STILL noticed me, and for rooms full of monsters only one
needed to notice me and sound the alarm before the entire room was
chasing after me. I eventually got killed in a stand-up with with some
orc priests on the last level of the orc mines, probably a dumb move
on my part. How can I make stabbing work?

Fighting skill. What does this do?

Thank you,

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 5:22 pm
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On Jan 12, 7:00 pm, Murg <ScotCarl... RemoveThis @verizon.net> wrote:
> I'm new to Stone Soup Crawl (though I've played Nethack and ADOM
> before this).
>
> I have a bunch of newbie questions.
>
> Sometimes when I find a treasure vault all the treasure attacks me!
> And my god (apparently) doesn't reward me for killing the treasure. Is
> there any way to get the treasure instead of killing it?

This wasn't treasure, but a bunch of mimics, monsters that look like
treasure.

> Xom...does this god exist purely as an optional additional challenge?
> He sent me to the Abyss! Not cool.

Xom is not a god for the easily frustrated.

> If I'm playing a (draconian) melee monk should I be wearing heavy
> armor (I found some dragon hide)?

Draconians have lousy aptitude for training armour. You will use your
XP more efficiently by going the light armour route for this
character.

> I was playing a Spriggan assassin and if I stabbed anything it was
> pretty much an instant-kill. But despite having high stealth most
> monsters STILL noticed me, and for rooms full of monsters only one
> needed to notice me and sound the alarm before the entire room was
> chasing after me. I eventually got killed in a stand-up with with some
> orc priests on the last level of the orc mines, probably a dumb move
> on my part. How can I make stabbing work?

There are spells that put monsters to sleep or confuse them. Other
than that, approaching monsters by routes that put you in their field
of view for as little time as possible minimizes the chance that they
will notice you.

> Fighting skill. What does this do?

The most noticeable effect of Fighting skill is that you have more
HP. This is invaluable for any melee character.

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Martin Read

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 1:19 am
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Murg <ScotCarlson.TakeThisOut@verizon.net> wrote:
>Sometimes when I find a treasure vault all the treasure attacks me!
>And my god (apparently) doesn't reward me for killing the treasure. Is
>there any way to get the treasure instead of killing it?

No, because it isn't treasure. It's mimics.

>Xom...does this god exist purely as an optional additional challenge?
>He sent me to the Abyss! Not cool.

Pretty much. *On average*, of course, subjecting oneself to Xom's
recreational whimsies is beneficial. It's just that sometimes he gets
bored with his toys and decides to break them.

>If I'm playing a (draconian) melee monk should I be wearing heavy
>armor (I found some dragon hide)?

Heavy armour and unarmed combat do not go together.

>I was playing a Spriggan assassin and if I stabbed anything it was
>pretty much an instant-kill. But despite having high stealth most
>monsters STILL noticed me, and for rooms full of monsters only one
>needed to notice me and sound the alarm before the entire room was
>chasing after me. I eventually got killed in a stand-up with with some
>orc priests on the last level of the orc mines, probably a dumb move
>on my part. How can I make stabbing work?

Stealth-bonus items, or enchantments that incapacitate your target.

>Fighting skill. What does this do?

Increases your hit points and the effectiveness of your melee attacks.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 5:30 am
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Thank you, that was a great help!
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 4:52 am
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On Jan 13, 2:22 am, cyrus.pilc....DeleteThis@gmail.com wrote:
> On Jan 12, 7:00 pm, Murg <ScotCarl....DeleteThis@verizon.net> wrote:

> > I was playing a Spriggan assassin and if I stabbed anything it was
> > pretty much an instant-kill. But despite having high stealth most
> > monsters STILL noticed me, and for rooms full of monsters only one
> > needed to notice me and sound the alarm before the entire room was
> > chasing after me. I eventually got killed in a stand-up with with some
> > orc priests on the last level of the orc mines, probably a dumb move
> > on my part. How can I make stabbing work?
>
> There are spells that put monsters to sleep or confuse them. Other
> than that, approaching monsters by routes that put you in their field
> of view for as little time as possible minimizes the chance that they
> will notice you.

(plus +Stealth bonus items mentioned by Martin), plus...

- Make sure to highlight not just sleeping monsters, but also confused/
fleeing/groggy monsters; the highlight for them is called
"may_stab_brand," is (sadly) off by default, and can be set in the
options.

- Monsters can shout, roar, etc. when they leave the sleeping/groggy
("doesn't seem to have noticed you") state of their own accord. They
do *not* do so when you wake them with a ranged attack, including a
non-damaging attack. You can even use Corona! This can be useful when
you sight a minority of shouters (especially a singleton) among a
majority of non-shouters.

- Spellcasting and straight-up combat (maybe not stabbing) have a
tendency to fully wake groggy monsters who see them.

- Paralysis gives a small chance of a stab.

- There's a chance to stab fleeing monsters. To make monsters flee,
use scrolls of fear or Cause Fear, or hurt them a lot; the last does
not work against monsters with human or better intelligence, which are
the ones you'd think they'd be.

- Levitation/flight gives a 10 point stealth bonus (offhand I think
that's around one level of stealth for most races and a bit less for
sprigs, since they get more benefit than normal per level of stealth).

- Elven boots and cloaks give stealth bonuses; sprigs have to stick to
just the cloaks, since their feet are too small for Crawl's boots.

- Stealth-wise, your first turn after crossing a wall via Passwall is
free (i.e. nothing gets an antistealth check on that turn). There's
nothing more satisfying than -- after careful planning and a Passwall
-- suddenly materializing next to the mighty dragon unique Xtahua and
guaranteed-instakilling it! Note that only rock is passable, not
stone, metal, etc., and note that without building up some power on
this spell (or maybe just Earth skill, I forget), you'll be limited to
thickness-1 walls. Getting above a limit of thickness-2 is hard. Or
rather, *safe* limit. If you exceed it, you'll get a "this rock feels
deep" message (unless you massively exceed it, in which case you'll
sense an "overwhelming volume of rock". CANCEL when you see this;
otherwise you risk instadeath.

e.
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