Controversial, yet important : The Hunter dilemma.

Let me start off by making sure we're all on the same page. Everyone
knows that the only reason someone chooses to be an ingame Hunter is
because they are somehow trying to replace a lost pet/love in their
life. This is a sweeping statement, so do not think that I've forgotten
those who are just social failures, or those that like animals in an
inappropriate manner.

Having said that, these people have nothing to be proud of. Being the
"lonely" option of professions, Blizzard has chosen them to be
virtually useless in all fighting scenarios. Countless times, I have
encountered on in a group of trees, just sitting down. I ask them, why
are you just sitting, and sometimes they don't answer. Sometimes they
just get up and run away. Sometimes they say something stupid and get
me very angry. I have never received a satisfactory answer.

Now this is my point. I am a human rogue on Uther, and after my second
week of playtime, I have secured the 14th level. I did it through
nothing but my own hard work. I am not a Hunter. Now, what I don't find
fair is, why do Hunters look to join groups, and take items? If they
are going to be of no use when the end of the game comes, and the big
wars start, then why are we cheating other players out of items they
might very well use in battle? A hunter, and this is my speculation,
simply like to try on items and sit in the forest, or near a lake. They
are usually simple minded. Could Blizzard not specifically make an item
ONLY for hunters? That is, an item useful to nobody, but just so they
have something to wear?

I am sick of seeing them in a group, taking a heal that should have
been mine. Thankfully till now I have never allowed a Hunter to get an
item in my party. I just want an official means of doing this, rather
than having to deal with unstable emotions.

Urbin a écrit :

> On 16 Mar 2006 03:58:10 -0800, uther.venomx.DeleteThis@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > Let me start off by making sure we're all on the same page. Everyone
> > knows that the only reason someone chooses to be an ingame Hunter is
> > because they are somehow trying to replace a lost pet/love in their
> > life. This is a sweeping statement, so do not think that I've forgotten
> > those who are just social failures, or those that like animals in an
> > inappropriate manner.

I'm a level 60 social failure and I will roll on that inappropriate
manner if it ever drops for my party.

>
> You did of course forget those that are stuck in between two incarnations
> and therefore need to give in to their animal-soul and human-soul at the
> same time. On the other hand, you might have just been too considerate
> to list this and potentially hurt someone's religious feelings. I deeply
> appreciate that consideration.
>

It's not that simple, if you look at the maths behind the hunter class,
you'll see that two-parts souls highly benefit from +spirit gear,
especially with the talent spirit bond - I won't go into the details,
but unfortunately there's no need to put a religious aspect as for why
you play a hunter, simply because the spirit bonus from the Devout set
gets a hard nerf in 1.10. The new 6 parts set bonus on magister rocks
for hunters though (chance to freeze attackers).

> > Having said that, these people have nothing to be proud of.
>
> It is of course not a matter of pride at all but of our inability to conform
> with the intended gameplay that Blizzard has laid down in the hunter
> addendum to the TOC.

Allow me to quote it:
"None shall pass."

>
> > Being the "lonely" option of professions, Blizzard has chosen them to be
> > virtually useless in all fighting scenarios.
>
> I am amazed that you apparently do not discard us entirely as would be
> proper. What unexpected positive hunter experience has caused you to insert
> the "virtually"? Please do tell, so we can post a sticky thread on the
> hunter forums to ensure none of our deficient brethren will commit that
> sin again.

We rock at sitting in the wilderness. And we're the only class capable
of feeding animals. Tame beast is the best crowd control in the whole
game.

>
> > Now this is my point. I am a human rogue on Uther, and after my second
> > week of playtime, I have secured the 14th level.

Nerf.

>
> Ah, finally. I always found the 14th level incredibly insecure. Now that
> you have secured it I will gladly return there to concentrate on my insecure
> personality, preferrably by sitting next to the level 14 lake Blizzard has
> so conveniently placed there. The only drawback may be that now that the
> level is secure, others may also return and intrude on our introverted
> skulking. It's awful, whenever I have immersed myself into the hunteresque
> misery and are appropriately staring at the lake, some interloper asks me
> why I do it and in the confusion of my derranged mind I see no other way
> than to run away to level 27.

learn2play.

>
> > Now, what I don't find fair is, why do Hunters look to join groups, and
> > take items?
>
> It's one of the compulsions caused by our social deficiency.

It's not compulsory behaviour, it's justice. There is a telepathic rule
all around the hunter community, saying that for each broken tooth,
sin'dall, bloodaxe worg, King B or Zul'gurub bat kill, a hunter rolls
need.

>
> > If they are going to be of no use when the end of the game comes, and the
> > big wars start, then why are we cheating other players out of items they
> > might very well use in battle?
>
> I always thought that was obvious. Causing the worthy classes grief by
> depriving them of the items rightfully theirs we are trying to find
> companions in our own misery.

"Your Tame Beast was resisted by Ornery Plainstrider."
That pisses me off. I need more +spell hit% gear.

>
> > A hunter, and this is my speculation, simply like to try on items and sit
> > in the forest, or near a lake.
>
> No no no. You misunderstand. It is not the trying on. The reason we sit at
> the edge of those lakes is because we are considering if the newly embezzled
> item is heavy enough to pull us under permanently or whether we need to
> steal another item off someone who deserves it to make sure our ghost will
> not resurface in a few minutes again. Imagine the torment we are facing,
> those items never keep us dead for longer than 5 minutes and after a dozen
> drownings these items are no longer worth anything.
>

You are both mistaken. It's not robbery. We need specific gear so we
can tame special beasts for the Ashbringer (the second hunter epic
quest)

With the correct gear a hunter is able to tame Gazh'ranka in Zul'Gurub
(requires a crit tame beast). The gear is rather hard to obtain,
because you need a mix of +hit% and +crit% to maximize your chances.
Bring the new pet to Nat Pagle in Dustwallow Marsh. He will give you a
quest - basically it's a series of pointless farms (felstriker, devout
robes, magister hat, valor shoulders, lightforge belt, nightstalker
boots, bloodfang pants, ten storm bracers, eye of shadow and will of
arlokk). The last quest Nat Pagle gives (after you're done with the
grind) requires a flask of petrification, a flask of the titans, five
savory deviate delights, a jubling and 30 darkmoon ale jugs.

Nat Pagle, while drinking the darkmoon ale, will melt all the items you
brought to him into a huge cauldron for one day, until there's the
message "you have a strange feeling about this.". Just fish inside the
cauldron (300 fishing is enough) and you will get an Archjubling (which
is basically a vanity pet). Go visit the Soothsayer in NE Tanaris with
the Archjubling and he will give you the last quest of the series:
"[60]From the Ashes", and a new skill, "Ashes to ashes" (which allows
you to disenchant items into piles of Ashes). You will need to feed
your Archjubling pet with 666,666 piles of Ashes.

The Archjubling will then explode, and by looting it you will obtain
"Ashbringer, Legendary Blade of the Scarlet Highlord", the orange two
handed sword with nice strength bonus and powerful procs.

> > They are usually simple minded.
>
> Ah, you underestimate the complexity of our derrangement. The multitude of
> deficiencies we carry with us is astonishing. No other class is chosen by
> such a plethora of nut cases as the hunter. Simplicity would be far too
> simple to contain such chaos and imbecility.

too long, didn't read lol.

>
> > Could Blizzard not specifically make an item ONLY for hunters? That is,
> > an item useful to nobody, but just so they have something to wear?
>
> I strongly support this suggestion. Blizzard, give us an item that keeps a
> ghost from resurfacing. Make it heavy. Make it Bind-on-Equip so we cannot
> unequip it once we are in ghostform. Make it hunter-only so no other class
> disturbs us in our deep and watery graves.

See above.

>
> > I am sick of seeing them in a group, taking a heal that should have
> > been mine.

bandages are your friend.

>
> Talk to the healers. Do you think I enjoy being healed inches away from
> another relief-bringing death? Ah, the times I have trembled in rage after a
> thoughtless priest has healed me instead of the rogue! How I wish there were
> groups without priests so we could be slain undisturbedly!

I keep telling priests that they shouldn't heal me. They won't listen.
I hate them. That's why I sometimes disenchant eyes of divinity and
give them the nexus. Just to make sure they *never* forget.

>
> > I just want an official means of doing this, rather than having to deal
> > with unstable emotions.
>
> Again, I support your notion. I have hard enough a life with my unstable
> emotions that I would gladly pay a premium-subscription if in return we got
> an official means of further isolating ourselves in Azeroth.
>
> Urbin, going back to sit at the lake

LFG UBRS

>
> ps. Christian Stauffer wrote:
> > I bet a sixpack of finest swiss beer that there will be at least
> > ... 3 people taking this serious.
>
> Come look me up the next time you are in Berne, and we'll split that sixpack
>

There are rumours of "certain people" rerolling alliance on a certain
english PVP/RP server just to share a beer with him, you know