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Chris LeBron wrote:
> "Robert Scott Clark" <clarkrs DeleteThis @mindspring.com> wrote in message
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>>Just reading UMA, and some things are confusing me. These aren't directly
>>from the book, but just things that it made me think about.
>>
>>#1 Do attributes bought as powers have visible effects?
>>#2 Do abilities built as Aid self-only seem pricy to anyone?
>
>
> They upped the price of Aid to the point where, IMO, it's not worth the
> expense. I'd just as soon buy any stat boosts as a stat with END costs and
> such before I'd Aid it. Powers and such, I'd probably go with Succor first.
>
> Chris
>
>

Aid doesn't cost END.
You have to spend END on Succor every Phase in order to maintain it,
like Suppress in reverse.


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On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 21:54:26 GMT, "Chris LeBron" <clebron RemoveThis @san.rr.com>
wrote:

>"Robert Scott Clark" <clarkrs RemoveThis @mindspring.com> wrote in message
>news:Xns9513D6020D1EEclarkrsmindspringcom@216.77.188.18...
>> Just reading UMA, and some things are confusing me. These aren't directly
>> from the book, but just things that it made me think about.
>>
>> #1 Do attributes bought as powers have visible effects?
>> #2 Do abilities built as Aid self-only seem pricy to anyone?
>
>They upped the price of Aid to the point where, IMO, it's not worth the
>expense. I'd just as soon buy any stat boosts as a stat with END costs and
>such before I'd Aid it. Powers and such, I'd probably go with Succor first.

The problem was in the prior cost there were easy schemes for turning
it into a 2.5-3x yield with only very rare downsides. It's one of
those cases where there was probably no good pricing, but at least the
current one doesn't tend to be a game breaker.
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Robert Scott Clark <clarkrs.RemoveThis@mindspring.com> wrote in message news:<Xns9513D6020D1EEclarkrsmindspringcom.RemoveThis@216.77.188.18>...
> Just reading UMA, and some things are confusing me. These aren't directly
> from the book, but just things that it made me think about.
>
> #1 Do attributes bought as powers have visible effects?

By default, powers with no END cost are not visible. Therefore, stats
bought as powers aren't inherently visible. It's a rule from the main
book, but I'm afraid I can't quote you a page as I don't have it with
me. However, as I recall, it's in the beginning of the Powers section
before the individual powers are detailed. I want to say that it's in
the section that talks about END cost for powers. If not there, I'm
pretty sure it's near there. If no one posts a page # by the time I
have access to my book again, I'll post it.

> #2 Do abilities built as Aid self-only seem pricy to anyone?

That was one of the things recently discussed on the Hero boards as
part of the "Rage Enhanced Strength" thread:
http://www.herogames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18492

Unfortunately, I don't recall any definitive conclusions being drawn.

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Wayne Shaw <shaw.DeleteThis@caprica.com> wrote in
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> On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 21:54:26 GMT, "Chris LeBron" <clebron.DeleteThis@san.rr.com>
> wrote:
>
>>"Robert Scott Clark" <clarkrs.DeleteThis@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>>news:Xns9513D6020D1EEclarkrsmindspringcom@216.77.188.18...
>>> Just reading UMA, and some things are confusing me. These aren't
>>> directly from the book, but just things that it made me think about.
>>>
>>> #1 Do attributes bought as powers have visible effects?
>>> #2 Do abilities built as Aid self-only seem pricy to anyone?
>>
>>They upped the price of Aid to the point where, IMO, it's not worth
>>the expense. I'd just as soon buy any stat boosts as a stat with END
>>costs and such before I'd Aid it. Powers and such, I'd probably go
>>with Succor first.
>
> The problem was in the prior cost there were easy schemes for turning
> it into a 2.5-3x yield with only very rare downsides. It's one of
> those cases where there was probably no good pricing, but at least the
> current one doesn't tend to be a game breaker.
>

Could someone answer the first question?
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On 28 Jun 2004 11:55:41 -0700, thunder crashed as deric.page RemoveThis @usa.net (Deric
Page) dramatically intoned:

>Robert Scott Clark <clarkrs RemoveThis @mindspring.com> wrote in message news:<Xns9513D6020D1EEclarkrsmindspringcom RemoveThis @216.77.188.18>...
>> Just reading UMA, and some things are confusing me. These aren't directly
>> from the book, but just things that it made me think about.
>>
>> #1 Do attributes bought as powers have visible effects?
>
>By default, powers with no END cost are not visible. Therefore, stats
>bought as powers aren't inherently visible. It's a rule from the main
>book, but I'm afraid I can't quote you a page as I don't have it with
>me. However, as I recall, it's in the beginning of the Powers section
>before the individual powers are detailed. I want to say that it's in
>the section that talks about END cost for powers. If not there, I'm
>pretty sure it's near there. If no one posts a page # by the time I
>have access to my book again, I'll post it.
>
>> #2 Do abilities built as Aid self-only seem pricy to anyone?
>
>That was one of the things recently discussed on the Hero boards as
>part of the "Rage Enhanced Strength" thread:
>http://www.herogames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18492
>
>Unfortunately, I don't recall any definitive conclusions being drawn.
>
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