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Since: Mar 03, 2005 Posts: 315
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(Msg. 16) Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 9:21 am
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lbeulmann.DeleteThis@aol.com wrote:
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> > What do you think?
> First I recommend the discussion of the Mystic Theurge at wizards.com.
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> The lack of spell power starts with 2 levels at character level 6, goes
> up to 3 levels at character level 9 and achieves 4 levels at character
> level 12. I use the term "spell power" as a synonym for the highest
> level spells a single class character is able to cast.
>
> So this is slightly better as the Mystic Theurge in low levels, but
> worse in higher levels. The character has no access to the powerful
> spells and still can only cast one spell per round. So, if you insist
> on playing this one, consider Quicken Spell. You should also increase
> your caster level for at least one of the two classes by a feat (or
> two).
>
> Wicked? No. But you can cast a lot of spells, given time. How many
> rounds lasts a typical combat? Personally, I prefer the diversity of
> the Mystic Theurge over the Ultimate Magus. I haven't yet lost a word
> on the complex rules of the Ultimate Magus, haven't I? ...
>
> No harm intended.
I think your observations are useful and to the point.
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(Msg. 17) Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 9:21 am
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lbeulmann.DeleteThis@aol.com wrote:
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> > What do you think?
> First I recommend the discussion of the Mystic Theurge at wizards.com.
>
> The lack of spell power starts with 2 levels at character level 6, goes
> up to 3 levels at character level 9 and achieves 4 levels at character
> level 12. I use the term "spell power" as a synonym for the highest
> level spells a single class character is able to cast.
>
> So this is slightly better as the Mystic Theurge in low levels, but
> worse in higher levels. The character has no access to the powerful
> spells and still can only cast one spell per round. So, if you insist
> on playing this one, consider Quicken Spell. You should also increase
> your caster level for at least one of the two classes by a feat (or
> two).
>
> Wicked? No. But you can cast a lot of spells, given time. How many
> rounds lasts a typical combat? Personally, I prefer the diversity of
> the Mystic Theurge over the Ultimate Magus. I haven't yet lost a word
> on the complex rules of the Ultimate Magus, haven't I? ...
>
> No harm intended.
I think your observations are useful and to the point.
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Since: Mar 03, 2005 Posts: 315
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(Msg. 18) Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 9:21 am
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lbeulmann.RemoveThis@aol.com wrote:
>
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> > What do you think?
> First I recommend the discussion of the Mystic Theurge at wizards.com.
>
> The lack of spell power starts with 2 levels at character level 6, goes
> up to 3 levels at character level 9 and achieves 4 levels at character
> level 12. I use the term "spell power" as a synonym for the highest
> level spells a single class character is able to cast.
>
> So this is slightly better as the Mystic Theurge in low levels, but
> worse in higher levels. The character has no access to the powerful
> spells and still can only cast one spell per round. So, if you insist
> on playing this one, consider Quicken Spell. You should also increase
> your caster level for at least one of the two classes by a feat (or
> two).
>
> Wicked? No. But you can cast a lot of spells, given time. How many
> rounds lasts a typical combat? Personally, I prefer the diversity of
> the Mystic Theurge over the Ultimate Magus. I haven't yet lost a word
> on the complex rules of the Ultimate Magus, haven't I? ...
>
> No harm intended.
I think your observations are useful and to the point.
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(Msg. 19) Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 9:21 am
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lbeulmann.DeleteThis@aol.com wrote:
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> > What do you think?
> First I recommend the discussion of the Mystic Theurge at wizards.com.
>
> The lack of spell power starts with 2 levels at character level 6, goes
> up to 3 levels at character level 9 and achieves 4 levels at character
> level 12. I use the term "spell power" as a synonym for the highest
> level spells a single class character is able to cast.
>
> So this is slightly better as the Mystic Theurge in low levels, but
> worse in higher levels. The character has no access to the powerful
> spells and still can only cast one spell per round. So, if you insist
> on playing this one, consider Quicken Spell. You should also increase
> your caster level for at least one of the two classes by a feat (or
> two).
>
> Wicked? No. But you can cast a lot of spells, given time. How many
> rounds lasts a typical combat? Personally, I prefer the diversity of
> the Mystic Theurge over the Ultimate Magus. I haven't yet lost a word
> on the complex rules of the Ultimate Magus, haven't I? ...
>
> No harm intended.
I think your observations are useful and to the point.
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(Msg. 20) Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 9:25 am
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Malachias Invictus wrote:
> "Dragonkat" <dragonkat2flame DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1162497357.329451.51290@f16g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> > The Ultimate Magus PrC combines wizard & sorcerer, but the 1st, 4th, &
> > 7th levels only advance the lower class of the two. A Wizard4/Sorcerer1
> > can advance in this PrC And a 10th lvl Ultimate Magus(CL15) casts as
> > an 11th/11th caster!!
> > But with almost gesault-like spellpower I'd think he/she would be
> > wicked
> > as an opponent or ally.
> >
> > What do you think?
>
> I think a 15th level straight Wizard would walk all over him.
>
> --
> ^v^v^Malachias Invictus^v^v^
>
> It matters not how strait the gate,
> How charged with punishment the scroll,
> I am the Master of my fate:
> I am the Captain of my soul.
>
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(Msg. 21) Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 9:25 am
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Malachias Invictus wrote:
> "Dragonkat" <dragonkat2flame.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1162497357.329451.51290@f16g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> > The Ultimate Magus PrC combines wizard & sorcerer, but the 1st, 4th, &
> > 7th levels only advance the lower class of the two. A Wizard4/Sorcerer1
> > can advance in this PrC And a 10th lvl Ultimate Magus(CL15) casts as
> > an 11th/11th caster!!
> > But with almost gesault-like spellpower I'd think he/she would be
> > wicked
> > as an opponent or ally.
> >
> > What do you think?
>
> I think a 15th level straight Wizard would walk all over him.
>
> --
> ^v^v^Malachias Invictus^v^v^
>
> It matters not how strait the gate,
> How charged with punishment the scroll,
> I am the Master of my fate:
> I am the Captain of my soul.
>
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(Msg. 22) Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 9:25 am
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Malachias Invictus wrote:
> "Dragonkat" <dragonkat2flame.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1162497357.329451.51290@f16g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> > The Ultimate Magus PrC combines wizard & sorcerer, but the 1st, 4th, &
> > 7th levels only advance the lower class of the two. A Wizard4/Sorcerer1
> > can advance in this PrC And a 10th lvl Ultimate Magus(CL15) casts as
> > an 11th/11th caster!!
> > But with almost gesault-like spellpower I'd think he/she would be
> > wicked
> > as an opponent or ally.
> >
> > What do you think?
>
> I think a 15th level straight Wizard would walk all over him.
>
> --
> ^v^v^Malachias Invictus^v^v^
>
> It matters not how strait the gate,
> How charged with punishment the scroll,
> I am the Master of my fate:
> I am the Captain of my soul.
>
I think you are right, unfortunate for the U-Magus. >> Stay informed about: Compleate Mage: Ultimate Magus |
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(Msg. 23) Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 9:25 am
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Malachias Invictus wrote:
> "Dragonkat" <dragonkat2flame RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1162497357.329451.51290@f16g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> > The Ultimate Magus PrC combines wizard & sorcerer, but the 1st, 4th, &
> > 7th levels only advance the lower class of the two. A Wizard4/Sorcerer1
> > can advance in this PrC And a 10th lvl Ultimate Magus(CL15) casts as
> > an 11th/11th caster!!
> > But with almost gesault-like spellpower I'd think he/she would be
> > wicked
> > as an opponent or ally.
> >
> > What do you think?
>
> I think a 15th level straight Wizard would walk all over him.
>
> --
> ^v^v^Malachias Invictus^v^v^
>
> It matters not how strait the gate,
> How charged with punishment the scroll,
> I am the Master of my fate:
> I am the Captain of my soul.
>
I think you are right, unfortunate for the U-Magus. >> Stay informed about: Compleate Mage: Ultimate Magus |
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(Msg. 24) Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 9:25 am
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Malachias Invictus wrote:
> "Dragonkat" <dragonkat2flame.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1162497357.329451.51290@f16g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> > The Ultimate Magus PrC combines wizard & sorcerer, but the 1st, 4th, &
> > 7th levels only advance the lower class of the two. A Wizard4/Sorcerer1
> > can advance in this PrC And a 10th lvl Ultimate Magus(CL15) casts as
> > an 11th/11th caster!!
> > But with almost gesault-like spellpower I'd think he/she would be
> > wicked
> > as an opponent or ally.
> >
> > What do you think?
>
> I think a 15th level straight Wizard would walk all over him.
>
> --
> ^v^v^Malachias Invictus^v^v^
>
> It matters not how strait the gate,
> How charged with punishment the scroll,
> I am the Master of my fate:
> I am the Captain of my soul.
>
I think you are right, unfortunate for the U-Magus. >> Stay informed about: Compleate Mage: Ultimate Magus |
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(Msg. 25) Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 9:25 am
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Malachias Invictus wrote:
> "Dragonkat" <dragonkat2flame.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1162497357.329451.51290@f16g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> > The Ultimate Magus PrC combines wizard & sorcerer, but the 1st, 4th, &
> > 7th levels only advance the lower class of the two. A Wizard4/Sorcerer1
> > can advance in this PrC And a 10th lvl Ultimate Magus(CL15) casts as
> > an 11th/11th caster!!
> > But with almost gesault-like spellpower I'd think he/she would be
> > wicked
> > as an opponent or ally.
> >
> > What do you think?
>
> I think a 15th level straight Wizard would walk all over him.
>
> --
> ^v^v^Malachias Invictus^v^v^
>
> It matters not how strait the gate,
> How charged with punishment the scroll,
> I am the Master of my fate:
> I am the Captain of my soul.
>
I think you are right, unfortunate for the U-Magus. >> Stay informed about: Compleate Mage: Ultimate Magus |
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