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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 11:55 am
Post subject: Compleate Mage: Ultimate Magus
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The Ultimate Magus PrC combines wizard & sorcerer, but the 1st, 4th, &
7th levels only advance the lower class of the two. A Wizard4/Sorcerer1
can advance in this PrC And a 10th lvl Ultimate Magus(CL15) casts as
an 11th/11th caster!!
But with almost gesault-like spellpower I'd think he/she would be
wicked
as an opponent or ally.
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 1:39 pm
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> But with almost gesault-like spellpower I'd think he/she would be
> wicked as an opponent or ally.
I'm afraid she's not.
> What do you think?
First I recommend the discussion of the Mystic Theurge at wizards.com.
The lack of spell power starts with 2 levels at character level 6, goes
up to 3 levels at character level 9 and achieves 4 levels at character
level 12. I use the term "spell power" as a synonym for the highest
level spells a single class character is able to cast.
So this is slightly better as the Mystic Theurge in low levels, but
worse in higher levels. The character has no access to the powerful
spells and still can only cast one spell per round. So, if you insist
on playing this one, consider Quicken Spell. You should also increase
your caster level for at least one of the two classes by a feat (or
two).
Wicked? No. But you can cast a lot of spells, given time. How many
rounds lasts a typical combat? Personally, I prefer the diversity of
the Mystic Theurge over the Ultimate Magus. I haven't yet lost a word
on the complex rules of the Ultimate Magus, haven't I? ...
No harm intended.
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 1:39 pm
Post subject: Re: Compleate Mage: Ultimate Magus [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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> But with almost gesault-like spellpower I'd think he/she would be
> wicked as an opponent or ally.
I'm afraid she's not.
> What do you think?
First I recommend the discussion of the Mystic Theurge at wizards.com.
The lack of spell power starts with 2 levels at character level 6, goes
up to 3 levels at character level 9 and achieves 4 levels at character
level 12. I use the term "spell power" as a synonym for the highest
level spells a single class character is able to cast.
So this is slightly better as the Mystic Theurge in low levels, but
worse in higher levels. The character has no access to the powerful
spells and still can only cast one spell per round. So, if you insist
on playing this one, consider Quicken Spell. You should also increase
your caster level for at least one of the two classes by a feat (or
two).
Wicked? No. But you can cast a lot of spells, given time. How many
rounds lasts a typical combat? Personally, I prefer the diversity of
the Mystic Theurge over the Ultimate Magus. I haven't yet lost a word
on the complex rules of the Ultimate Magus, haven't I? ...
No harm intended.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 1:39 pm
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> But with almost gesault-like spellpower I'd think he/she would be
> wicked as an opponent or ally.
I'm afraid she's not.
> What do you think?
First I recommend the discussion of the Mystic Theurge at wizards.com.
The lack of spell power starts with 2 levels at character level 6, goes
up to 3 levels at character level 9 and achieves 4 levels at character
level 12. I use the term "spell power" as a synonym for the highest
level spells a single class character is able to cast.
So this is slightly better as the Mystic Theurge in low levels, but
worse in higher levels. The character has no access to the powerful
spells and still can only cast one spell per round. So, if you insist
on playing this one, consider Quicken Spell. You should also increase
your caster level for at least one of the two classes by a feat (or
two).
Wicked? No. But you can cast a lot of spells, given time. How many
rounds lasts a typical combat? Personally, I prefer the diversity of
the Mystic Theurge over the Ultimate Magus. I haven't yet lost a word
on the complex rules of the Ultimate Magus, haven't I? ...
No harm intended.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 1:39 pm
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> But with almost gesault-like spellpower I'd think he/she would be
> wicked as an opponent or ally.
I'm afraid she's not.
> What do you think?
First I recommend the discussion of the Mystic Theurge at wizards.com.
The lack of spell power starts with 2 levels at character level 6, goes
up to 3 levels at character level 9 and achieves 4 levels at character
level 12. I use the term "spell power" as a synonym for the highest
level spells a single class character is able to cast.
So this is slightly better as the Mystic Theurge in low levels, but
worse in higher levels. The character has no access to the powerful
spells and still can only cast one spell per round. So, if you insist
on playing this one, consider Quicken Spell. You should also increase
your caster level for at least one of the two classes by a feat (or
two).
Wicked? No. But you can cast a lot of spells, given time. How many
rounds lasts a typical combat? Personally, I prefer the diversity of
the Mystic Theurge over the Ultimate Magus. I haven't yet lost a word
on the complex rules of the Ultimate Magus, haven't I? ...
No harm intended.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 1:39 pm
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> But with almost gesault-like spellpower I'd think he/she would be
> wicked as an opponent or ally.
I'm afraid she's not.
> What do you think?
First I recommend the discussion of the Mystic Theurge at wizards.com.
The lack of spell power starts with 2 levels at character level 6, goes
up to 3 levels at character level 9 and achieves 4 levels at character
level 12. I use the term "spell power" as a synonym for the highest
level spells a single class character is able to cast.
So this is slightly better as the Mystic Theurge in low levels, but
worse in higher levels. The character has no access to the powerful
spells and still can only cast one spell per round. So, if you insist
on playing this one, consider Quicken Spell. You should also increase
your caster level for at least one of the two classes by a feat (or
two).
Wicked? No. But you can cast a lot of spells, given time. How many
rounds lasts a typical combat? Personally, I prefer the diversity of
the Mystic Theurge over the Ultimate Magus. I haven't yet lost a word
on the complex rules of the Ultimate Magus, haven't I? ...
No harm intended.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 1:39 pm
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> But with almost gesault-like spellpower I'd think he/she would be
> wicked as an opponent or ally.
I'm afraid she's not.
> What do you think?
First I recommend the discussion of the Mystic Theurge at wizards.com.
The lack of spell power starts with 2 levels at character level 6, goes
up to 3 levels at character level 9 and achieves 4 levels at character
level 12. I use the term "spell power" as a synonym for the highest
level spells a single class character is able to cast.
So this is slightly better as the Mystic Theurge in low levels, but
worse in higher levels. The character has no access to the powerful
spells and still can only cast one spell per round. So, if you insist
on playing this one, consider Quicken Spell. You should also increase
your caster level for at least one of the two classes by a feat (or
two).
Wicked? No. But you can cast a lot of spells, given time. How many
rounds lasts a typical combat? Personally, I prefer the diversity of
the Mystic Theurge over the Ultimate Magus. I haven't yet lost a word
on the complex rules of the Ultimate Magus, haven't I? ...
No harm intended.
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 7:22 pm
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"Dragonkat" <dragonkat2flame.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> The Ultimate Magus PrC combines wizard & sorcerer, but the 1st, 4th, &
> 7th levels only advance the lower class of the two. A Wizard4/Sorcerer1
> can advance in this PrC And a 10th lvl Ultimate Magus(CL15) casts as
> an 11th/11th caster!!
> But with almost gesault-like spellpower I'd think he/she would be
> wicked
> as an opponent or ally.
>
> What do you think?
I think a 15th level straight Wizard would walk all over him.
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^v^v^Malachias Invictus^v^v^
It matters not how strait the gate,
How charged with punishment the scroll,
I am the Master of my fate:
I am the Captain of my soul.
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 7:22 pm
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"Dragonkat" <dragonkat2flame DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> The Ultimate Magus PrC combines wizard & sorcerer, but the 1st, 4th, &
> 7th levels only advance the lower class of the two. A Wizard4/Sorcerer1
> can advance in this PrC And a 10th lvl Ultimate Magus(CL15) casts as
> an 11th/11th caster!!
> But with almost gesault-like spellpower I'd think he/she would be
> wicked
> as an opponent or ally.
>
> What do you think?
I think a 15th level straight Wizard would walk all over him.
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^v^v^Malachias Invictus^v^v^
It matters not how strait the gate,
How charged with punishment the scroll,
I am the Master of my fate:
I am the Captain of my soul.
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 7:22 pm
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"Dragonkat" <dragonkat2flame RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> The Ultimate Magus PrC combines wizard & sorcerer, but the 1st, 4th, &
> 7th levels only advance the lower class of the two. A Wizard4/Sorcerer1
> can advance in this PrC And a 10th lvl Ultimate Magus(CL15) casts as
> an 11th/11th caster!!
> But with almost gesault-like spellpower I'd think he/she would be
> wicked
> as an opponent or ally.
>
> What do you think?
I think a 15th level straight Wizard would walk all over him.
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^v^v^Malachias Invictus^v^v^
It matters not how strait the gate,
How charged with punishment the scroll,
I am the Master of my fate:
I am the Captain of my soul.
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 7:22 pm
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"Dragonkat" <dragonkat2flame.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> The Ultimate Magus PrC combines wizard & sorcerer, but the 1st, 4th, &
> 7th levels only advance the lower class of the two. A Wizard4/Sorcerer1
> can advance in this PrC And a 10th lvl Ultimate Magus(CL15) casts as
> an 11th/11th caster!!
> But with almost gesault-like spellpower I'd think he/she would be
> wicked
> as an opponent or ally.
>
> What do you think?
I think a 15th level straight Wizard would walk all over him.
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^v^v^Malachias Invictus^v^v^
It matters not how strait the gate,
How charged with punishment the scroll,
I am the Master of my fate:
I am the Captain of my soul.
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 7:22 pm
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"Dragonkat" <dragonkat2flame DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> The Ultimate Magus PrC combines wizard & sorcerer, but the 1st, 4th, &
> 7th levels only advance the lower class of the two. A Wizard4/Sorcerer1
> can advance in this PrC And a 10th lvl Ultimate Magus(CL15) casts as
> an 11th/11th caster!!
> But with almost gesault-like spellpower I'd think he/she would be
> wicked
> as an opponent or ally.
>
> What do you think?
I think a 15th level straight Wizard would walk all over him.
--
^v^v^Malachias Invictus^v^v^
It matters not how strait the gate,
How charged with punishment the scroll,
I am the Master of my fate:
I am the Captain of my soul.
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 7:22 pm
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"Dragonkat" <dragonkat2flame.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> The Ultimate Magus PrC combines wizard & sorcerer, but the 1st, 4th, &
> 7th levels only advance the lower class of the two. A Wizard4/Sorcerer1
> can advance in this PrC And a 10th lvl Ultimate Magus(CL15) casts as
> an 11th/11th caster!!
> But with almost gesault-like spellpower I'd think he/she would be
> wicked
> as an opponent or ally.
>
> What do you think?
I think a 15th level straight Wizard would walk all over him.
--
^v^v^Malachias Invictus^v^v^
It matters not how strait the gate,
How charged with punishment the scroll,
I am the Master of my fate:
I am the Captain of my soul.
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 9:21 am
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lbeulmann DeleteThis @aol.com wrote:
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> > What do you think?
> First I recommend the discussion of the Mystic Theurge at wizards.com.
>
> The lack of spell power starts with 2 levels at character level 6, goes
> up to 3 levels at character level 9 and achieves 4 levels at character
> level 12. I use the term "spell power" as a synonym for the highest
> level spells a single class character is able to cast.
>
> So this is slightly better as the Mystic Theurge in low levels, but
> worse in higher levels. The character has no access to the powerful
> spells and still can only cast one spell per round. So, if you insist
> on playing this one, consider Quicken Spell. You should also increase
> your caster level for at least one of the two classes by a feat (or
> two).
>
> Wicked? No. But you can cast a lot of spells, given time. How many
> rounds lasts a typical combat? Personally, I prefer the diversity of
> the Mystic Theurge over the Ultimate Magus. I haven't yet lost a word
> on the complex rules of the Ultimate Magus, haven't I? ...
>
> No harm intended.
I think your observations are useful and to the point.
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 9:21 am
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lbeulmann RemoveThis @aol.com wrote:
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> > What do you think?
> First I recommend the discussion of the Mystic Theurge at wizards.com.
>
> The lack of spell power starts with 2 levels at character level 6, goes
> up to 3 levels at character level 9 and achieves 4 levels at character
> level 12. I use the term "spell power" as a synonym for the highest
> level spells a single class character is able to cast.
>
> So this is slightly better as the Mystic Theurge in low levels, but
> worse in higher levels. The character has no access to the powerful
> spells and still can only cast one spell per round. So, if you insist
> on playing this one, consider Quicken Spell. You should also increase
> your caster level for at least one of the two classes by a feat (or
> two).
>
> Wicked? No. But you can cast a lot of spells, given time. How many
> rounds lasts a typical combat? Personally, I prefer the diversity of
> the Mystic Theurge over the Ultimate Magus. I haven't yet lost a word
> on the complex rules of the Ultimate Magus, haven't I? ...
>
> No harm intended.
I think your observations are useful and to the point.
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