Changes to Codex Space Wolves

Ryan Elkins wrote:
> >>
> > ...snippage...
> >> Speaking of which, when was the most recent SW codex published? Mine is
> >> dated 2000.
> >>
> >> drgrbek
> >
> > It's not the copyright date you need to look at, it's whether or not
> > it's whether it's the "Second Printing" or not since both have the same
> > copyright date. You can find the printing right above the white box
> > with GWs contact info.
> >
> > The differences include changes to Stormcaller (no longer gives first
> > attack) and the points cost of some of the war gear (rune staff being
> > the most significant up to 25).
> >
> > --Frank
>
> Ok, thanks, I'll check mine tonight. If it was the first printing, would I
> still be able to use it with the most recent SW faq from GW?
> And in regards to the 2nd printing, does it have any other special rules for
> the Iron Priest? They are described as Techmarine equivalants, but nothing
> in my copy indicates that they have the same abilities as a Techmarine. What
> gives?
>
> drgrbek

The funny thing is the FAQ seems to be written for the 1st printing,
not the 2nd even though I strongly believe that the 2nd printing was
published post 4th ed.... Even worse, GW-US customer service didn't
even realize there was a second printing and didn't have a copy to
reference when I had some questions (of course I went in expecting
worthless answers)....

Iron Priests (actually all SW characters) only have the abilities
included in Codex: SW. The only things we use out of Codex: SM are
points and armaments for vehicles and the drop pod rules. Although one
nice little thing, our Ven Dread can still use a plasma cannon (now not
allowed for dreadS under C:SM).

The change to Stormcaller (now counts as if in cover, strike first if
charged, simultaneously if charging someone in cover, no ruling for
charging someone not in cover). The old rule allowed a unit to strike
first in close combat until the end of your opponents turn and that it
is what the FAQ addresses.

Blood claws are now expressly forbidden from rapid firing to avoid
making a charge move (unless led by an IC).

And last but not least, the Rune Staff now costs the same as a psychic
hood.

--Frank

"Frankus Macimus" <frank_jimenez2000.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1160537839.654577.307790@c28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> Ryan Elkins wrote:
>> >>
>> > ...snippage...
>> >> Speaking of which, when was the most recent SW codex published? Mine
>> >> is
>> >> dated 2000.
>> >>
>> >> drgrbek
>> >
>> > It's not the copyright date you need to look at, it's whether or not
>> > it's whether it's the "Second Printing" or not since both have the same
>> > copyright date. You can find the printing right above the white box
>> > with GWs contact info.
>> >
>> > The differences include changes to Stormcaller (no longer gives first
>> > attack) and the points cost of some of the war gear (rune staff being
>> > the most significant up to 25).
>> >
>> > --Frank
>>
>> Ok, thanks, I'll check mine tonight. If it was the first printing, would
>> I
>> still be able to use it with the most recent SW faq from GW?
>> And in regards to the 2nd printing, does it have any other special rules
>> for
>> the Iron Priest? They are described as Techmarine equivalants, but
>> nothing
>> in my copy indicates that they have the same abilities as a Techmarine.
>> What
>> gives?
>>
>> drgrbek
>
> The funny thing is the FAQ seems to be written for the 1st printing,
> not the 2nd even though I strongly believe that the 2nd printing was
> published post 4th ed.... Even worse, GW-US customer service didn't
> even realize there was a second printing and didn't have a copy to
> reference when I had some questions (of course I went in expecting
> worthless answers)....
>
> Iron Priests (actually all SW characters) only have the abilities
> included in Codex: SW. The only things we use out of Codex: SM are
> points and armaments for vehicles and the drop pod rules. Although one
> nice little thing, our Ven Dread can still use a plasma cannon (now not
> allowed for dreadS under C:SM).
>
> The change to Stormcaller (now counts as if in cover, strike first if
> charged, simultaneously if charging someone in cover, no ruling for
> charging someone not in cover). The old rule allowed a unit to strike
> first in close combat until the end of your opponents turn and that it
> is what the FAQ addresses.
>
> Blood claws are now expressly forbidden from rapid firing to avoid
> making a charge move (unless led by an IC).
>
> And last but not least, the Rune Staff now costs the same as a psychic
> hood.
>
> --Frank

Great, thanks for the info. One last thing: Is the LRuss Exterminator still
legit to use?

Thanks

drgrbek
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