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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 12:46 pm
Post subject: Codex of the Damn Question - LSJ
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Name: Codex of the Damned
[Third:R]
Cardtype: Equipment
Unique equipment.
While the bearer has Thaumaturgy [tha], he or she is considered to
have superior Thaumaturgy. Each time the bearer with Thaumaturgy
commits diablerie, each other ready vampire you control gains 1 blood,
and each one younger than the victim may receive a master: Discipline
card from your ash heap, hand, or library (shuffle afterward).
So do the effects of this equipment get ordered by the user, or do the
effects happen sequentually a listen on the card?
Example: 1 cap vampire is ready to receive blood and Discipline card
after a successful diablerie.
Can the owner place the discipline card on the vampire, then add a
blood, assuming the diablerized vampire is a 2 cap or higher?
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 2:16 pm
Post subject: Re: Codex of the Damn Question - LSJ [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Jan 17, 12:51 pm, LSJ <vtes....TakeThisOut@white-wolf.com> wrote:
> Raille wrote:
> > Name: Codex of the Damned
> > [Third:R]
> > Cardtype: Equipment
> > Unique equipment.
> > While the bearer has Thaumaturgy [tha], he or she is considered to
> > have superior Thaumaturgy. Each time the bearer with Thaumaturgy
> > commits diablerie, each other ready vampire you control gains 1 blood,
> > and each one younger than the victim may receive a master: Discipline
> > card from your ash heap, hand, or library (shuffle afterward).
>
> > So do the effects of this equipment get ordered by the user, or do the
> > effects happen sequentually a listen on the card?
>
> At the same time. So the capacity boost from the Discipline card counts for
> holding the extra blood.
Really? Did something change with diablerie as well? We've always had
to follow the five steps of diablerie and those specify that you get
blood first, then may get a discipline card at step 4.
While I can't recall any right now, I seem to remember other cards
being ruled that we had to follow the card instructions in that
precise order. If Codex is different, then why wasn't it worded
properly, with skill card acquisition first, then blood gain?
Jeff
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> > Example: 1 cap vampire is ready to receive blood and Discipline card
> > after a successful diablerie.
> > Can the owner place the discipline card on the vampire, then add a
> > blood, assuming the diablerized vampire is a 2 cap or higher?
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> > Raille |
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 5:32 pm
Post subject: Re: Codex of the Damn Question - LSJ [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Jeff Kuta wrote:
> On Jan 17, 12:51 pm, LSJ <vtes....RemoveThis@white-wolf.com> wrote:
>> Raille wrote:
>>> Name: Codex of the Damned
>>> [Third:R]
>>> Cardtype: Equipment
>>> Unique equipment.
>>> While the bearer has Thaumaturgy [tha], he or she is considered to
>>> have superior Thaumaturgy. Each time the bearer with Thaumaturgy
>>> commits diablerie, each other ready vampire you control gains 1 blood,
>>> and each one younger than the victim may receive a master: Discipline
>>> card from your ash heap, hand, or library (shuffle afterward).
>>> So do the effects of this equipment get ordered by the user, or do the
>>> effects happen sequentually a listen on the card?
>> At the same time. So the capacity boost from the Discipline card counts for
>> holding the extra blood.
>
> Really? Did something change with diablerie as well? We've always had
No.
> to follow the five steps of diablerie and those specify that you get
> blood first, then may get a discipline card at step 4.
Yes.
> While I can't recall any right now, I seem to remember other cards
> being ruled that we had to follow the card instructions in that
> precise order. If Codex is different, then why wasn't it worded
> properly, with skill card acquisition first, then blood gain?
Space, and it is worded properly.
> Jeff
>
>
>>> Example: 1 cap vampire is ready to receive blood and Discipline card
>>> after a successful diablerie.
>>> Can the owner place the discipline card on the vampire, then add a
>>> blood, assuming the diablerized vampire is a 2 cap or higher?
>>> Raille
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 8:51 pm
Post subject: Re: Codex of the Damn Question - LSJ [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Raille wrote:
> Name: Codex of the Damned
> [Third:R]
> Cardtype: Equipment
> Unique equipment.
> While the bearer has Thaumaturgy [tha], he or she is considered to
> have superior Thaumaturgy. Each time the bearer with Thaumaturgy
> commits diablerie, each other ready vampire you control gains 1 blood,
> and each one younger than the victim may receive a master: Discipline
> card from your ash heap, hand, or library (shuffle afterward).
>
> So do the effects of this equipment get ordered by the user, or do the
> effects happen sequentually a listen on the card?
At the same time. So the capacity boost from the Discipline card counts for
holding the extra blood.
> Example: 1 cap vampire is ready to receive blood and Discipline card
> after a successful diablerie.
> Can the owner place the discipline card on the vampire, then add a
> blood, assuming the diablerized vampire is a 2 cap or higher?
>
>
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 11:43 am
Post subject: Re: Codex of the Damn Question - LSJ [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"Jeff Kuta" <jeff.kuta.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:eec1c74e-aab9-4f1e-aa5d-5afa86d753c7@l1g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
> On Jan 17, 12:51 pm, LSJ <vtes....DeleteThis@white-wolf.com> wrote:
>> Raille wrote:
> Really? Did something change with diablerie as well? We've always had
> to follow the five steps of diablerie and those specify that you get
> blood first, then may get a discipline card at step 4.
> Jeff
My error, I was making a reference to the old rule arguments back in the day
where in LSJ ruled
diablery as atomic and it all just sort of happened. That thought was first
in my mind when I was
reading the Codex card and it seemed just to fit that sort of thing.
and it seems I was right.
Raille >> Stay informed about: Codex of the Damn Question - LSJ |
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